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Thread: Zoe By My Side- Our Journey with Cushings

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    Default Re: new member needs help - my Zoe, Lhasa Apso, diagnosed with Cushing's

    Addy, Just wanted you to know that we know this can be very stressful. Even those of us that have been around this for years need to take a day or a week off. Just went thru it myself. You are doing a great job. Remember to take care of yourself too in all of this. Kim

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    Dear Andy,
    Hang in there. I noticed Apollo's pop was a little watery today, yesterday he had some good ones. Pretty sad when you get excited over dog pop. Just some humor.

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    OMG, you won't even believe this. Yesterday, my husband came back from the grocery store and I carefully put all the food away safely. I had 2 bags of hamburger buns that I figured I would stash on top of the refrigerator out of reach, where I usally do, I had not other place to put them, I once tried the oven and we forgot the rolls were in there and turned it on to preheat Is that called a senior moment?

    Now I try to be so careful with Zoe, when the kids come over we nag them to death about don't eat anywhere but seated at the table, don't spill the grapes, becareful of the chocolate and on and on and on. They think I am loony tunes the way I fuss. Well, somehow one of the bags containing EIGHT hamburger buns fell from the refrigerator top. The dogs must have thought it was raining bread! I had already ran out to pick up my elderly mom and of course you know the rest of the story. From the looks of her stomach, guess who ate most of them?

    I can't even believe this happened. And she just had perfect poops. Her stomach looks like she is expecting a litter of puppies, she is pooping orange gluey mushy stuff and she can't stop panting and it has been 24 hours. I took her to emergency and told them she was The IMS's patient. Dr. told me to not feed her for the rest of the day except a small amount of food tonite, give her metronidazole tonite and that it should be out of her system in another 24 hours.

    I keep hitting myself in the head, but I have stashed rolls on top of the frig for ten years, they never fell down. Why would they fall down now?Koko of course is perfectly fine but Zoe is "sick as a dog!"

    I don't believe this. I really don't. I was so upset yesterday I told my husband he can't go grocery shopping anymore, we have to eat out from now on.

    OMG!

    Addy

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    Dear Andy, I have had the same thing happen, in a way you just have to laugh. Apollo in August of last year, I was having a senior moment, left Apollo at home, in the kitchen where there is a doggie door to go outside as usual. Forgot I left a plastic bag full of dog food samples from a fair I had gone to, on the kitchen table. I come home, Apollo is bloated out like a balloon, see what is left of some of the bags of dog food, ate the plastic also. Went to vet tried to give him some laxative and x ray to see what was in his stomach. He was a very happy fat dog. I did not feed him for a day. But didn't know he had cushing so it took forever for his stomach to go down. Not the first time, he got into blue berry scone, once he ate 1 and 1/2 wheat bagels, etc. Be grateful it was only food. The little guys keep us on our toes always.

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    I know, you almost do have to laugh.

    I told my neighbor I was going to be a cat lady in my next life!!!!

    Yesterday afternoon I called the ER and they told me to feed her small frequent meals because that was alot of food and I needed to make sure it moved through her system. I think that advice made her sicker. She will not let me pick her up at all this afternoon. Though she sure did not turn down her breakfast portion. I knew I should have not fed her

    I f I offered her a steak right now, she would eat it I still can't believe they ate eight hamburger buns. And you know Zoe had at least five of them if not more. I don't remember my Golden retriever doing this stuff, but she was not part of a tag team

    Did you post Apollos's picture from the Fourth? How is his bump?

    Addy

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    Quote Originally Posted by apollo6 View Post
    Dear Andy,
    Hang in there. I noticed Apollo's pop was a little watery today, yesterday he had some good ones. Pretty sad when you get excited over dog pop. Just some humor.

    Well I think it's time for Jenny to once again present or reintroduce her special "Stool Chart" When I was first introduced to it, I would refer to the poop type with a number as per the chart. I still always watch my precious pups poops
    John (Roxee & Rozee's Dad)

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    Dear Andy will post picture, not great because pretty overcast. Did one today. Apollo was not interested in possing, but you can see the lump on his tail. Will be going for ACHT STIM test tomorrow and will bring up his tail. Need to further investigate and hopefully remove.

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    okay, we seem to be almost over the bun incident, tummy is still sore but Zoe did manage to jump on the bed today, could not do it for a few days. IMS said watch her for signs of pancreatitis when I called in to renew her script for metronidazole today.

    Hopefully, we can get back to our melatonin and lignans now. I swear, is a higher being trying to keep me from loading with lysodren? It's enough to make a girl wonder

    I am thinking maybe I should do one more acth test or stim test in August. Thoughts anyone? Here are mine:

    1- will be off her glandular thyroid meds for 3 months, will be off the Shen calmer for a month and hopefully colitis flare up will be over.

    It is not than I don't think she has Cushings but I worry that all that stress and inflamation made her numbers higher than they would have been. I mean it said "SIGNIFICANT"

    Also, feeling really bad that Dr. Oliver has answered others but still has not answered me. Should I rewrite the email? Maybe I didn't ask the question correctly.

    Input, please

    Thanks,
    Addy

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    Dear Andy,
    Like you , I want to believe Apollo doesn't have cushing. When I emailed this is the answer I got back.
    If your veterinarian wanted input on what we do at Tennessee, I’d be more than happy to discuss things with him (865-974-5729). Jack
    You might ask Dena-Simon's mother, she has dealt with Dr. Oliver.
    In my thread, I posted about Apollo's test and the doctor wants to follow up in 4-6weeks for another test and blood panel to see how his organs are. I just hate putting the little guy through all this. When the tech took him in for his test , he let out a shrill cry and looked at me with fear. Ask your Vet want they think, be persistent with them, Zoe is your baby.
    Apollo has had episodes of pancreatitis in the past, was usually put on bland diet. His stomach is still gurgling. My vet says improvement can take up to months. I don't blame you about the Lysodren. But a lot on the forum have used it, so I really can not give any input. You have enough going on with Zoe's other issues.
    Love Sonja and Apollo
    Last edited by apollo6; 07-07-2010 at 11:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addy View Post
    okay, we seem to be almost over the bun incident, tummy is still sore but Zoe did manage to jump on the bed today, could not do it for a few days. IMS said watch her for signs of pancreatitis when I called in to renew her script for metronidazole today.

    If this were me, instead of watching for signs of pancreatitis I would ask your IMS to test Zoe for pancreatitis, the test is called a spec PL test.

    Hopefully, we can get back to our melatonin and lignans now. I swear, is a higher being trying to keep me from loading with lysodren? It's enough to make a girl wonder

    I am thinking maybe I should do one more acth test or stim test in August. Thoughts anyone? Here are mine:

    Another acth stim test, IMO, would hinge on the results of the spec PL test. If Zoe's spec PL results are high for pancreatitis then this needs to be addressed first even before the cushings...JMO.

    1- will be off her glandular thyroid meds for 3 months, will be off the Shen calmer for a month and hopefully colitis flare up will be over.

    It is not than I don't think she has Cushings but I worry that all that stress and inflamation made her numbers higher than they would have been. I mean it said "SIGNIFICANT"

    Also, feeling really bad that Dr. Oliver has answered others but still has not answered me. Should I rewrite the email? Maybe I didn't ask the question correctly.

    Most definitely email him again. Dr. Oliver always responds back. Something must of happened to your first email...lost in cyber-space, maybe??

    Input, please

    Thanks,
    Addy
    Hope this helps.

    Love and hugs,
    Lori

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