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    Default Re: Sammie - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    Hi Dottie,

    PLEASE stop the Trilo and call the vet asap! Your baby is in crisis and needs medical attention. If you have prednisone give it now, call your vet to let them know what you have done and insist that they see Sammy now.

    Dottie, this is not something to "wait and see" what happens. This could be the result of the meds, a misdiagnosis, pancreatitis, and many other things.

    I hope we hear from you soon as I am worried about Tess. You did really good in reaching out to Terry for help.

    Hugs,
    Leslie and the girls
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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    Hi Dottie,

    I hope you have received Terry's email and been able to follow the link and read these posts. I, too, agree that Tess is in need of a vet or an ER visit right away and please, do stop the Vetoryl. It should not be given to a dog who is vomiting and ill.

    The following is information from Dechra re Vetoryl.
    ADVERSE REACTIONS:
    The most common adverse reactions reported are poor/reduced appetite, vomiting, lethargy/dullness, diarrhea, and weakness.

    and

    Owners should be instructed to stop therapy and contact their veterinarian immediately in the event of adverse reactions or unusual developments
    The cushings diagnosis and treatment can be discussed later. We'll all be here for you to help. Right now the #1 priority is to get Tess to the vet for help.

    Louise
    Last edited by MiniSchnauzerMom; 07-06-2009 at 03:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    (Who is Sammie?)
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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    Hi Sammie is my user name, but Tessie is the name of one of my dogs and she is very sick. Last night at 2:00 A.M. I took her out to pee. She did, she was so hot I put another wet towel on her. I feel asleep and woke up to Tes wanting to be sick again. I helped her do that. Turned on the light to get some more water. I saw that her eye's were going back and fourth very fast. At 4:20 A.M. I rushed her to the emergency Vet. Her blood was took thick to draw and run a test, so they got fluid's in her. About 20 or so minuet later, they got blood and every thing was out of whack. The vet said she now has Addison's disease, which is the opposite of chusings disease. We were there tell 8:00 A.M. and we transfered her to my Vet for the day. She is home on the couch for the night. She is doing better, but she has not come back from this yet. I have to Vets now with two different opinions. I have been with my vet for 11 years and trust him. He thinks after two days on Vetoryl that it could not get to Addison's. He did say because of the eye's going back and forth it could be another disease, I will post the name of that disease tomorrow. I forgot the name. He said it was just bad timing for that disease to pop up while we were starting the Vetoryl. My Vet still feels she has chusings.

    LADYMOMS6: You are the only post I have seen after two days of searching that had the same thing happen to them. I could not find any thing except for what was on Vetoryl web sit that you have all kindly posted for me. I was at my wits in. I had called my Vet on Saturday at home, But from 5:30 P.M. Saturday to 24 hours later she really went down hill. I will never wait that long again. I have a total of 5 dogs.

    My Vet said he might want to start her when she is better on Lysodren Mitotane. Tessie was not on any other medication before she started Vetoryl. She has been given a steroid injection and a injection for nauseous.

    I just want to thank you all and am watching over Tessie all night and she will go back to My Vets at 6:30 A.M. California time. I had been up for two days straight, except for that hour last night. Thank god Tess got me up and I got her to the Emergence Vet. Next time there will be know waiting. My vet said if she was still walking around and not lethargy that she might be ok. That is why I waited so long. Thank you all again and I will let you know how it goes.
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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    I am sorry I called Tessie the wrong name.
    I am glad you got her to the vet because it sounded like she was in real trouble. If she has gone addisons it must have been the vetoryl and makes me wonder about the testing that confirmed cushings. Sometimes getting a correct diagnosis of cushings in all it's forms is hard to do. Once the Vetoryl wears off and the injection should speed things up you should see a great improvement. I would not be starting Lysodren or Vetoryl again until you get some more testing done. If Tessie stays addison then you will have to medicate her for that.

    Jenny

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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    Quote Originally Posted by BestBuddy View Post
    I am sorry I called Tessie the wrong name.
    I am glad you got her to the vet because it sounded like she was in real trouble. If she has gone addisons it must have been the vetoryl and makes me wonder about the testing that confirmed cushings. Sometimes getting a correct diagnosis of cushings in all it's forms is hard to do. Once the Vetoryl wears off and the injection should speed things up you should see a great improvement. I would not be starting Lysodren or Vetoryl again until you get some more testing done. If Tessie stays addison then you will have to medicate her for that.

    Jenny
    I agree 100%. I wanted to do the 8 hour test for Chusings, but My Vet said that the two hour test was fine to do and normally this is enough. I said this to him today about the test. I will be having the 8 hour test. I don't want to start her on Lysodren ever. I too think the does was to high. Just by going to there web site I could tell from that chart. Thank you for posting that. I had been there before all of this. I did a lot of research before her first test. All signs point to chusings. They still point that way. Addison's would be easier to have for her. Only from what I have read. Can any one tell me from experience how is it with a dog with Addison"s? TY again you guys are great.

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    Red face Re: Sammie/Tess-radiation treatment, Tess is not feeling well

    TY for finding my old thread. I searched and could not find it. It's a history of Tessie. She is in recovery from the MRI. They just called me in to talk to me. More later. TY you ALL for yur help Dottie
    Dottie

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    Red face Re: Sammie/Tess-radiation treatment, Tess is not feeling well

    TESSIE does NOT have Cussings. I will post more later tonight. It was wroth the 1,322.85 for the MRI to know this. Hope yu guys are not mad at me for not being around. I have told 4 people about this site in the weighting room. I am over the top happy. Dottie
    Dottie

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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    Please tell us what tests were done to confirm your dogs diagnosis for Cushings. With the way your dog reacted to the few trilostane treatments makes me wonder if your dog has cushings for sure. We have seen it happen here a number of times. Diagnosing Cushings can be difficult sometimes and some vets not familiar with treating cushings have even misinterpret test results.
    I am glad your dog is doing better, do you have the test results from when you took your pup in to the vets? When you say all the results were out of wack, please post them, normally with an addisons crisis the Potassium and sodium do get out of the normal range, that is why it is so important to get your dog to the vets asap when that happens.
    You will want to be sure you get copies of all the test results your dog has, it is a good idea to keep the copies in a file at home, you never know when you will need it and it is a great reference. I think most of us keep copies, as well sometimes it is hard to remember when the vet talks to us so we have the results.
    Please continue to watch your dog, did the vet give you prednisone in case your dog got sick again?
    Sharon

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    Default Re: Sammie / Tess - Vetoryl - vomiting, weak, pale gums

    Quote Originally Posted by ventilate View Post
    Please tell us what tests were done to confirm your dogs diagnosis for Cushings. With the way your dog reacted to the few trilostane treatments makes me wonder if your dog has cushings for sure. We have seen it happen here a number of times. Diagnosing Cushings can be difficult sometimes and some vets not familiar with treating cushings have even misinterpret test results.
    I am glad your dog is doing better, do you have the test results from when you took your pup in to the vets? When you say all the results were out of wack, please post them, normally with an addisons crisis the Potassium and sodium do get out of the normal range, that is why it is so important to get your dog to the vets asap when that happens.
    You will want to be sure you get copies of all the test results your dog has, it is a good idea to keep the copies in a file at home, you never know when you will need it and it is a great reference. I think most of us keep copies, as well sometimes it is hard to remember when the vet talks to us so we have the results.
    Please continue to watch your dog, did the vet give you prednisone in case your dog got sick again?
    Sharon
    Hi I left my copies of the lab test with my Vet I will get them back and post them. Yes the Potassium and sodium were to high. The Potassium is down. Can't remember the one that is to high right now. I know I should remember more, but my other dog (Bunny) had a 7 min seizure and they are getting worse. She had this yesterday evening while I was caring for Tes. Then coming back from My Vet Bunny gets bit from my Lab (Lindie) in the neck. Not bad, but back to the Vet's for a shot and Med's. All of this with know sleep.

    Yes I will start a file. Your right it might come in handy. TY Dottie
    Forgot my Vet has 5 or dogs right now with Cushings. I have know problem switching vets. There are specialist in Orange Counting I can go to
    Last edited by Sammie; 07-07-2009 at 12:09 AM.

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