Molly, 13 yr, shih tzu - lhasa aspo - Molly has passed

[Trish]

Arghhhh messy poops again, shite! Be catching up tonight, I better get going before I get fired!! xx

[Woodydog]

Oh not again Sharlene, do you know what caused it this time. It is hard to know what to do of change in these circumstances

[molly muffin]

Not a clue, she was fine this morning. We'll see how she does in the morning since I didn't give her any can SO tonight and dumped the majority back in for some wilderness dry food with just the probiotic on it.

If it's not a once off and continues into tomorrow then I'll look at chicken rice again.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Not bad poops again??? Oh I bet that little girlie hates when that happens. Were you giving her any of those samples? She has been doing so well. Hope morning brings better news on that front, or should I say back?? It would seem all of these babies have the ability to make us a wreck when we see a bad poop. I never thought I would be so happy over Tippers good poops. Lets see what is a poop expert called?? As many on here would qualify! Get better Miss Molly we can't have royalty making bad poops. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

I was thinking of something that Glynda said to vetstudent today about cortisol being beneficial too and them feeling better if they have arthritis and it doesn't cause them pain. I wonder how much pain molly would be in without her cortisol being higher.

We don't know the cause of the high cortisol, but we know since birth she has had a bad leg that doesn't slide correctly and probably does cause her pain. I wonder. Would her body naturally have produced higher cortisol levels to negate if she has had some pain most if not all of her life?

Could her producing the cortisol, then cause the liver and adrenals to enlarge and could that constant of a supply of cortisol, perhaps up and down over the years, also cause the nodule tumor on her adrenal gland. I think it was Flynn's IMS, but might have been Snuggs, saying not all nodules or enlargements are tumors. hmmm.. I'm just thinking out loud. See when I write it out like this it doesn't seem very probable.

They keep saying, she might not have cushings (or she might) and if not maybe it is the liver. I don't think they know though and are just guessing and throwing out ideas, sort of like I am here, but hopefully with much better knowledge to back them up. LOL

back to regular scheduled programming.
I'm working from home tomorrow but do need to go into the office for hubbys birthday pie. yep, he wants a blueberry pie, so our social committee is providing. We do this for each office staff member and then they pick what they want to have served. I'll be able to keep an eye on molly for most of the day though.

No, I didn't introduce the Fromm food yet, as I wanted her on the same food for the UPC so as to not mess up the results, so I didn't introduce anything other than the regular bland sort of diet. Tonight I switched it up a bit and if her poops are better, tonight or tomorrow morning, then I really am going to suspect that food. This is what I had suspected caused her gastro upset 2 other times and the vet didn't think it would cause that and her need antibiotics, but again, I'm unsure.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[molly muffin]

I should add that molly doesn't Feel bad at all. She is at this moment, barking at the french door, because she got her ice cube that she was acting under the door and can't get back to get it, so wants me to come do get it for her.

and I retrieved it for her and she is back to throwing and pouncing on it. Maybe she is part cat???!!!

Sharlene and molly muffin

[Trish]

Hmmm I don't think that sounds very probable either.. the bit about the sore leg causing the high cortisol causing a tumour. But who knows with Molly! Another question for the IMS when you get to have the chat later in the week.

BUT looking for a good poop report tomorrow, I did laugh at Marianne noting Peg had passed the baton on to Molly... these pups can just stop this relay race right now!

Have a nice day at home tomorrow, does hubs work at the same company as you? Tell him I think his math skills are pretty sharp! xx

[goldengirl88]

Sharlene:
Yikes bad poops again?? Did you start her on the chicken and rice? I hope this is
is gone by tomorrow. I am wondering iif the stress from at the IMS? Does she normally react that way after going for a check up? Poor baby, I know how you feel as I think back to that time Tipper could not stop going and it just became liquid squirting out of her. Her poor little bum will be sore. Blessings
Patti

[Harley PoMMom]

Would her body naturally have produced higher cortisol levels to negate if she has had some pain most if not all of her life?

Any type of chronic illness can cause the adrenal glands to enlarge, this quote is from Dr Peterson's blog:

One would expect a sick dog to have a "stress" response, which would include increased secretion of pituitary ACTH leading to increased cortisol section. With chronic illness and continued stress, bilateral adrenocortical hyperplasia would be an expected finding as cortisol hypersecretion continues.

Q & A: Atypical Cushing's Disease in an 11-Month-Old Dog

Hoping Molly's poops get firmer soon.

Hugs, Lori

[molly muffin]

Molly's poop was better but not where it should be. I bit the bullet and gave her 1/2 of one of the Fromms grain free foods tonight with probiotic on it.

I don't think it was the IMS as that has been a few weeks back now and it would have occurred that day or the next. I'm leaning towards it being the SO food. I wanted her strictly on that so as to get a good accurate UPC but it seems that when I do that, I end up with a gastro upset. We'll see where she is after this food. *sigh* if it isn't one thing it's another.

I didn't end up working from home today, as I decided to go into the office for the whole day today and then work from home completely tomorrow and Friday. Molly was fine and there was someone here with her for most of the day until I returned.

Yes, my husband and I work for the same company. I don't work in his department though, so he isn't directly my supervisor or anything like that, we'd butt heads too much, but we are in the same office. It's very convoluted as any business is I suppose. I didn't start out working for his company, I worked for a different company that became an acquisition of the parent company that hubs works for. I do like popping into his office sometimes though. He has a picture of molly in a heart shaped miniature frame on his desk. It is so cute. On my wall, is a big picture in black and white of the one of molly and I looking at each other.

I don't like the sound of what Patti's IMS told her. I don't know what size Tippers tumor is, but I will be asking about that to my IMS when I speak to her. Today she was in emergency care so we didn't connect. That place is always busy with ER cases. I've heard them taking appointments from people driving for hours to get there.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin