Confused and Overwhelmed-Diagnosed Anal Sac Carcinoma (Woody has passed)

[My sweet Ginger]

Tracy, I'm awfully sorry you and Woody are going through this terrible time again. I just watched his video again from only a few days ago and he looked so awesome in that video. It's so hard to imagine that he could be seriously ill. It just seems so wrong and cruel that anything could be going wrong inside his perfectly healthy looking body. He looks like a picture perfect. I hope he will bounce right back in no time and provide us a lot of smiles with more of his crazy head spinning turning skill. I know it's hard but I hope you stay strong for your Woody and give him lots and lots of love and kisses and hugs. Please, try to take a good care of yourself, too as Woody needs you. We will do all the crying and worrying for Woody. Hugs.

[spdd]

Glad to hear you are home. I'm really hoping Woody improves through the night. I've had "the talk" as well, but we just keep plugging on. Sure hope this is a fluke happening again and all is well tomorrow.

[frijole]

I am at work so can't follow up until tonight but I suspect that was an episode from the pheo. You didn't provide a ton of detail and Annie never fully collapsed as in 'out of it' but she would be running along and then a leg would give out with no warning. She would lay down and close her eyes and breath quickly. At this time I believe the blood flowed from her heart to her brain and within a few minutes it stopped. She was usually sweaty and her skin was bright red afterwards. She would be tired also. And then she would be fine.

I share in the event it helps. Sending bunches and bunches of love. Kim (and Annie from above)

[Woodydog]

Leslie/Patti - Emma my vet said going on the symptoms it sounded heart related, but his heart sounded healthyish to hear taking into account his murmour, she said it didn,t sound any worse, but off course it may well be worse. She was concerned that he was walking funny really uncomfortable looking and we both thought he was in pain, she couldn,t feel anything obvious on his abdomen when she examined him.

This collapse was so like the last, only I actually knew it was going to happen before it did, as he was lying on the floor, stood up looked at me and put his head down, not sure why but I knew he was going to go, so I stood behind him, talking quietly to him and sure enough down he went on his right side, I was very calm and waited till he came round. The last time this happened he was up on his feet in about 10 mins afterwards, but he couldn,t get up this time, so I tried scooping him up but he nipped my arm, Craig told me to let him "come to" in his own time as he didn,t need anymore stress. It took him about an hour to stand and another 30 mins to get down the stairs and into the car as he could barely walk. It felt like the longest time sitting there with him on the floor willing him to get up. I tried to be upbeat and positive when I was sitting with him, telling him funny stories but inside I was crying "get up woody" Sorry I,ve gone all mordally. The vet thinks other possibilities is that the tumour is now causing him pain, and may be causing the collapse, as it could have went to the heart or even the brain. Woody is due at the hospital on Wednesday for a scan and to get an ECG done, but I will speak with them tomorrow to see if this is still safe, as woody will need sedated and that is worrying me now.

Thank you all so much for the hand holding I can,t tell you what it means as I,m scared, really scared but he,s a little fighter and I hope he can fight on some more. Emma my vet calls him The Legend as she thinks he is a legend to go through all this and still wag his tail, but even she said tonight he didn,t look good.

[Woodydog]

I am at work so can't follow up until tonight but I suspect that was an episode from the pheo. You didn't provide a ton of detail and Annie never fully collapsed as in 'out of it' but she would be running along and then a leg would give out with no warning. She would lay down and close her eyes and breath quickly. At this time I believe the blood flowed from her heart to her brain and within a few minutes it stopped. She was usually sweaty and her skin was bright red afterwards. She would be tired also. And then she would be fine.

I share in the event it helps. Sending bunches and bunches of love. Kim (and Annie from above)

Thanks Kim, we did think it could be coming from the adrenal mass, did Annie ever look like she was in pain with her pheo or walk funny. Woody had a funny gait really wide and was almost like he was walking without bending his legs it was really weird.

[Squirt's Mom]

That head dropping is what Tasha would do just before she had a seizure but then she would stiffen and shake, eyes rolled way back - obvious seizure. The seizures, or what we think are seizures, that Sophie has are nothing like that - she just becomes terrified of things and seems not to recognize anyone. I wondered about Woody's BP maybe spiking then dropping too low but didn't consider that the unknown, un-located cancer cells could be causing these spells. I think I would keep the appt. tomorrow, explain what has happened and see if there is something they can look into that might give you more of an answer, "why", what can be done, and what the prognosis is.

That's ok, honey. You can cry, scream, whatever you need to do.
Hugs,,
Leslie and the gang

[molly muffin]

omg Tracy. How terrifying. You must be just sick inside, but good for you to keep calm on the outside for Woody's sake. It does seem so unbelievable after looking at the video. Does he still seem to be in pain?

I don't know what is causing this, but I sure hope that they can figure it out, there just seems that there should be something that can be done.

We're all right here with you.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Woodydog]

Sharlene He doesn,t look to be in pain now, but he has been in his bed resting since we came home, he isn,t sleeping just resting. This is what I find so hard to accept that he has been so good, playful, walking albeit not as far as we used to go after his first collapse then this today I don,t get it I really don,t and the experts don,t seem to have any answers either its so damn hard.

But I have to try and stay positive that he will get over this collapse like he did the last one

[molly muffin]

I certainly hope he gets over it too. They need to get this figured out, what is causing these. He never collapsed before, so I just find it strange that he is so good at one point and then kaboom. Maybe it is like Kim said and a pheo that is acting up, but taking so long to come out of it and then acting like he is in pain, well, it makes you wonder what is really going on.

Poor guy. He is such a trooper though everything. It seems impossible that there is anything he can't overcome.

Hang in there! (and p.s. you can have my snow any time you want. Now just have to figure out how to ship it over from Canada. )

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

[frijole]

Thanks Kim, we did think it could be coming from the adrenal mass, did Annie ever look like she was in pain with her pheo or walk funny. Woody had a funny gait really wide and was almost like he was walking without bending his legs it was really weird.

Absolutely she got 'wooden legs' just like you described. Her pain seemed to be a headache. I'm guessing of course but she kept her eyes closed and she squinted some afterward. Then she'd be totally normal.

Again I got the description of what a pheo is like when active from going to a human forum so I am totally assuming there are similarities. It helped me understand Annie's situation. Specifically the humans said they could feel the blood vessels enlarge as the blood rushed from their heart to their brains and some got migraines afterward.

Kim