Have I finally found my friends? (Palmer has crossed over the Bridge)

[StarDeb55]

Susan, don't overlook what was suggested earlier. You can take some of those 30 mg. capsules to a compounding pharmacy & have them reformulated into a smaller dose such as 10 mg.

Debbie

[Bailey's Mom]

Marianne- thanks for the link. I've gone there and printed out some forms.
Debbie -I did not realize I could take what I have and have them re-mixed. Thank you.

I still have not heard results from the urine culture. There has not been any more diarrhea. I will fax what information I have on Trilostane 10 mg over to the vet's office. I will ask her to call with the culture results (she must not have had them yet. She's really good about that.) and so we can talk about the Trilostane.

I tried to find a place in Canada where I could order the 10mgs. but was unsuccessful. I did find a compounding place that indicated they have Trilostane. They offer it in capsule or tablet form.

Gave Palmer a bath today. I'm not finding his hair anywhere-furniture, etc,.but he sure is getting thinned out. Right at the base of his tail there is nothing. It's so sad. He still reverts to puppyishness after a bath. That's warming.

-Susan

[Bailey's Mom]

Does anyone find that they shy away from pups predispositioned to Cushings' when getting new family members?

-s

[lulusmom]

To be perfectly honest, I would think twice before adopting another Pomeranian and I'd probably steer clear of other breeds that I know are over represented in cushing's disease. However, if I had the financial means, it really wouldn't matter to me as caring for cushdogs has become second nature for me.

Glynda

[Bailey's Mom]

Glynda-do you know where I can find a list of breeds & dispositions? Didn't you say before that Pekingese were also prone to Cushings?

-Susan

[StarDeb55]

Susan, if you will "google" canine cushing's, most any of the common websites should have a list of breeds predisposed. One of the website you might look at is Kate Connick's.

Debbie

[Bailey's Mom]

Thanks, Debbie. I've seen that site before but at that point I was barely familiar with Cushing's. There is a lot of information there......some of it depressing.......

I'm nowhere needing this information, but was curious.

-Susan

[Bailey's Mom]

My little doggie is slowly loosing his hair. He's gonna look like one of those hairless whatever they are-s. Oh I'll love him just as much as ever, I just wish it weren't so.

[nikkismom]

Hi, Susan! It is sad when they get all bald, but it could be worse. Nikki's my first dog with cushings, I think, but maybe if the others had lived longer they would have had it too, who knows.I've also had a dog with diabetes, and for sure cushings is easier to deal with.I really feel for our friends who are dealing with both at the same time. Some even have thyroid disease thrown in. I believe when they get old they will have something unpleasant, just like we all do.I know some do get cushings at a young age, and that is very hard to deal with, I'm sure, but it does seem rare for a dog to go his whole life healthy and happy.But wouldn't it be great! I'm sorry I know nothing about trilostane as Nikki is on lysodren, but don't worry too much about the hair loss. I'm sure Palmer will be just as cute! Sharon

[StarDeb55]

Susan, as Glynda & I, along with several other members have mentioned to you when you were both contemplating using trilostane, & also with Palmer's symptoms getting worse, that the trilostane may be the actual problem, here. It is very well documented in the literature that trilostane will raise intermediate hormones, & really isn't an appropriate choice for an Atypical pup. The dose to trilostane that you have been using has obviously controlled Palmer's cortisol, but with the deterioration in his symptoms, IMHO, I really think that trilo is the culprit, here. I would strongly encourage you to e-mail Dr. O, again, make sure you include your original case # from UTK, explain to him that you have tried trilo, give him the the last stim results, but emphasize that Palmer's symptoms are becoming quite worse. I believe that Dr. O's original response to your first e-mail about using trilo included Dr. O stating something to the effect that you could try, but eventually trilo was going to elevate the intermediates, & exacerbate Palmer's symptoms. IMO, I think you have now reached "eventuallly elevate the intermediates".

Debbie