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    Default Rosie has pituitary Cushing's — Rosie has crossed Rainbow Bridge

    Rosie (a beagle, will be 11 yrs old on 7/29/13) has just been diagnosed with pituitary Cushing's, after a low dose dex suppression test. I have just started her on Trilostane (Vetoryl) 10mg twice a day.

    I was not told to give it with food, but I learned that from reading here on the forum while I waited for the meds to arrive. EDIT: Correction: The box has a neon orange sticker on it that says "GIVE WITH FOOD" that I managed to overlook. I aplogize to my vet!

    Aside from the excessive drinking and urinating, Rosie is also experiencing incontinence, having "accidents" on the couch and in my bed while sleeping, and just a few minutes ago while lying on the kitchen floor.

    I'm wondering if this is typical?
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    Welcome to you and Rosie,

    I have a Rosie too, just spelled differently (Rozee)

    Can you tell us the story and what test were performed that led to the cushings diagnosis. I see the LDDS test, but was there a follow up ACTH stim test?

    How much does your Rosie weigh? Does Rosie have a ravenous appetite, and excessive thirst? Losing any hair?

    Sorry for all the questions, but the more we know and understand, the more we can help.

    If Rosie does indeed have cushings, many of the symptoms will subside when her cortisol in under control.

    I don't have any experience with the incontinence, but many more will be by to welcome you and may be able to give you their input.
    John (Roxee & Rozee's Dad)

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    I also wanted to add, if you have copies of Rosie's test, could you post them here. Only the abnormal results along with the reference ranges.

    If you don't have copies, your vet's office should be more than happy to provide them. Most of us keep a notebook or folder with all our pups test results
    John (Roxee & Rozee's Dad)

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    Hi and welcome to our site - I am sorry your Rosie is having these troubles.

    Yes, incontinence can be associated with Cushing's, but more times than not it could be a urinary tract infection (UTI) as cushpups are prone to this. Has this been checked out?

    John has started off with the usual questions we all ask. Yep, the more we know the better we can all help out.

    When you get the chance post those results here.

    Oh, and I just fell in love with your avatar - what a cutie pie!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep us posted
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    Hi:
    Welcome to you and Rosie. You came to the right place for help. Just a few tips for you. Get copies of all your dogs tests and post the numbers so we can help you. Keep a daily diary of what is going on with your dog, get a vet or IMS that has experience with Cushings. You will save a lot of time, money and heartache. Most vets do not even understand the disease. If you use the name brand Vetoryl, call them and start a file on your dog. They have vets on staff there to help you. The number is 866-933-2472. I hope things go well with your baby. You may want to get her a pair of waterproof panties for now until the Cushings gets under control, it will save clean up, and furniture and carpeting. Blessings
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    Wow! I'm amazed at the fast responses!

    I don't have her test results, but I plan to ask for them as per your advice.

    Yes, she is drinking and peeing a lot. A lot. That was whet sent us to the vet. The urine tests ruled out diabetes and kidney failure right off the bat. While her urine was very dilute due to the massive water consumption, he bloodwork showed signs of dehydration, as well as "abnormal liver proteins."

    The vet first tried her on a liver supplement, but there was no sign of improvement after more than two weeks of it. The LDDS was next and the vet made the diagnosis of pituitary Cushing's based on that.

    She has not had an ACTH stim test yet, but the vet is planning to do them at intervals to verify she is getting the correct dosage, then farther apart later on to monitor her condition. I understand that Vetoryl can damage the adrenals and this has to be monitored.

    Rosie weighs about 32 lbs. She did have a period of heavy shedding this past fall and winter, a time of year that it wouldn't normally be expected, plus her fur felt very dry and rough and looked dull, but she never got bare patches or even sparse, but this ended and has not recurred (so far).

    The vet wants to check for a UTI, but even with all this pee, I haven't managed to get a sample yesterday or today and I hate to make Rosie go back to the vet so she can get the sample. She had a real hard time with the all-day LDDS test and when she got home she gave me these reproachful "Why you do me this way?" looks and then she deliberately peed right in front of me in the middle of the living room carpet just to let me know she wasn't happy with me.

    She also has a terror of T-storms, and we've been having them every day for so long I've lost track. When we're not actually having a storm, she is anticipating the next one, and even dreams them and wakes up in a panic. So she doesn't want to go out, and I'm using the biggest doggy pee pads I can find by the carton.

    Can someone give me a link/recommendation to the best waterproof panties? I didn't know there were such things for dogs, but a Google search brought up lots and I would appreciate the benefit of your experiences.

    PS That is Rosie in my avatar, the day I got her at 6 weeks old, waiting for me to give her a boost up onto the patio.

    PPS The furniture, rugs and hardwood floor are pretty much a write-off already.

    PPPS She also has a raging appetite, panting and looking for cool floors to lie on. I didn't really notice these symptoms as much as the drinking/peeing, because she's always had a keen appetite and tries to convince me (and others) that she hasn't been fed for days, and the panting goes along with the T-storm terrors. And looking for cool floors to lie on isn't very surprising in this hot muggy weather. But once I knew what to look for, these things were clear to me.
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    Happy birthday rosie!

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    Rosie has crossed the rainbow bridge. It was nothing to do with the Cushings, I hasten to assure anyone reading this. She would have been 17 on July 29th; she had become quite weak and wobbly. I hoped we would have one last summer together. But the day we arrived at camp June 28th, she came for her evening treats when I called her, but not when I called her at bedtime. I notified everyone I could think of, including the lake association page on Facebook, which is how they knew to call me. She was found floating in the lake by two fishermen on July 5th. They took a picture and brought it to me; I identified her immediately. They kindly brought her to me and buried her for me. I think she went for a drink of water after her treats, as was her habit, and she collapsed and drowned. I am broken with grief. She got me through losing my mother and brother two years ago and now I am more alone than I have ever been in my life. I know you will all understand how I feel. It has taken me almost 2 months to be able to post this.
    Karen



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    Rosie is a 32 lb spayed female beagle, born 7/29/2002; she has pituitary Cushing's. She began Vetoryl (10 mg, twice a day) on 7/3/2013, reduced to once a day abt 12/1/2016, stopped completely in March 2017. Rosie died 06/28/19 just a month short of 17 years old (it was not Cushings related).

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