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    No worries. They are troopers for sure. Does Maggie have high blood pressure? When Pookie had an MRI, it showed she had a stroke. I'm not sure if it was during Cushing's or not, but the MRI revealed it. Hypertension appears to be another thing that can occur with Cushing's. I'm hoping the meds work for you, because Pookie may be on them soon. The other thing I always wonder about is the ACTH stim test. I'm not a vet and I know that it's standard to test, but I wish we had another way to measure cortisol. When I think about being stressed, I would think adding more stress/acth would be dangerous.

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    Thanks Squirt’s mom!

    I’m was worried it was too high because it’s over 1mg/lb but it’s close so I wasn’t sure!

    I’m so nervous I need to calm down! When does it get easier if ever!?!

    How long did it take to get Squirt’s cortisol under control?

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    Maggie’s blood pressure was not high. I’m sure mine is though......

    Why did they do an MRI? I asked the IM VET but he said it’s not necessary at this point

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    Default Re: 15 yr old Maltese just diagnosed. So overwhelmed! Vetoryl questions

    Hi and a belated welcome to you and Maggie from me as well!

    Quote Originally Posted by Maggiemoo1 View Post
    Our regular vet said not to treat also because she’s not drinking and peeing excessively. Sad thing is I’d almost prefer that over the hind leg weakness lethargy and anxiety.
    It is recommended that if a dog doesn't have the most common Cushing's symptoms, such as a ravenous appetite and increased drinking/urinating, that treatment is not started because the goal of therapy is to improve those symptoms, it makes it harder to judge how a dog is doing if the symptoms are not present, so I do understand why the vet did not want to start treatment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maggiemoo1 View Post
    She doesn’t want to walk 10 feet and when she does she’s panting so excessively. Her tail is almost bald. She’s always wandering about and restless.
    The lethargy, panting, and hair loss are symptoms associated to hypothyroidism, has her thyroid function been tested?

    Unfortunately Cushing's is one of the most difficult canine diseases to diagnose and is often misdiagnosed. Other non-adrenal illnesses should be ruled out before a diagnosis of Cushing's is sought, so I recommend having a Free T4 test done to rule out a thyroid problem.

    We sure do understand how worried you are about your sweet girl and are here to help in any way we can.

    Lori

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    Thanks Lori!

    Now I’m really concerned. Do you think we should stop the vetoryl?

    Could the thyroid actually case a false positive on the LDDST? And her adrenals are both slightly enlarged. Ugh. I’m so frustrated!

    Not sure why an IM specialist at one of the very best hospitals didn’t test her thyroid!!!

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    If it's that good of a hospital, they might have and didn't see anything on the test. You should double check, because I have to ask for test to be run after my own research and concerns. The MRI was done, because Pookie has Cushing's and stopped eating. The vet brought another vet tech in and told me a story about another dog with Cushing's that had to be put down, because that dog stopped eating. The reason being was from a Macroadenoma, which is an enlarged tumor on the pituitary gland. I was crying that day and thought I would have to put Pookie down. The MRI showed she doesn't, and she is suspected to have been dealing with Pancreatitis for 2-3 weeks. Pookie had a CPL test that showed a light positive, hence the IV's and antibiotics. It was an awful experience, but I'm glad I still have my Pookie.

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    Who knows at this point! I’ve emailed the vet to ask. I don’t believe it was checked because I think I would recall.

    Maggie wasn’t interested in her food this am. She did eat treats and carrots but she turned her nose up at food so now I’m freaking out. Did Pookie stop eating altogether?

    This is so frustrating. I’m not sure how long I can go on like this.

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    Well so much for well tolerated. Maggie just had massive runny stool. Call is into the vet IM service. Waiting for a call back.

    She’s fine otherwise but I’m definitely NOT giving the next dose!

    Wondering if this with no other symptom is just gastrointestinal upset from the medication and nothing else.

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    Good for you! You are absolutely correct in stopping the Vetoryl. WAY TO GO, MOM!

    Do contact her vet and let us know how Maggie is doing!
    Hugs,
    Leslie
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    Found this at: https://www.drugs.com/pro/vetoryl.html

    Side effects generally involve an over suppression of the adrenal glands (hypoadrenocorticism, also known as Addison's Disease). Look for the following side effects that may indicate your dog is having a problem with Vetoryl Capsules or may have another medical problem:

    Depression, lethargy or decrease in activity.
    Change in bowel movements (such as diarrhea or loose stools).
    Vomiting.
    Stops eating or loses all interest in food.

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