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Thread: My big boy Gable - sweet Gabe is now at peace

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    I always think it is harder when you are trying to treat two things at the same time, as you are with Gable. Now as the others mentioned the actual results weren't terrible it is the drop between the few months that is more of concern. As you of course don't want him to go lower, but my suspicion would be an interaction of what his thyroid is doing and what his adrenal glands are doing. Obviously he is producing cortisol, as his post was 3.5 and that wasn't bad at all, and only a drop of about 1.0 from what 4. something to 3.5 Some vets disregard the pre, but in this case, it makes sense to see the specialist and there might need to be an adjustment between the two medications.
    It doesn't really sound like a cortisol cushing issue with the throwing up (due to the test results not supporting a cortisol crash) but something else, and that something else, eating or drinking something might have caused him to feel sick and not want to eat and throw up. Just a thought of course.

    How is he doing now? physically? eating? drinking? sick at all?
    Sharlene and the late great diva - Molly muffin (always missed and never forgotten)

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    He's not throwing up at all, no diarrhea, and except for the drinking and panting, seems fine. Of course he's peeing more because of the drinking, but no accidents in the house. He's not shedding anymore and his fur came back in beautifully and has stayed that way. He's put on about 10 pounds since we took him off the Vetoryl at the first drop, put him back on 10mg once a day for a few weeks, and now taken him off it again.

    I am wondering if that lump in his neck has anything to do with all of this, since it seems to have gotten bigger. I'll let Dr. Kimmel advise. Dr. Plunkett seems relieved to have handed him over to her. I doubt he wants to deal with me and another crisis. I was throwing questions at him at top speed when he called last week with these latest results and he couldn't wait to get off the phone...

    May 9 seems such a long way off!
    Joan, mom to my Angel Lena, Angel Gable, Angel Phoenix, Angel Doree, Cooper, Sibble, and now Raina.

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    Well May 9th is getting closer and closer
    Interesting question about the neck lump. Anything can affect cortisol production and therefore treatment, well, almost, but I'd definitely have the vet take a look at that lump and see whats what with it.
    Sharlene and the late great diva - Molly muffin (always missed and never forgotten)

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    Hi Joan,

    Well, tomorrow is the big day. I will be thinking about you and Gable tomorrow and sending lots of positive thoughts your way! I know it's not a happy place for you to physically be but necessary for Gable and his care. If they have mints or candy in a big jar on the counter, just grab an extra handful and stuff them in your pocket or purse. I have no sinister thought behind that comment....it just might make you feel better. I found that it works for me. Blessings to you and your pups. Karen

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    Good luck today to you and Gable!

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    1:30 is taking forever! My poor boy is starving, but they don't want him to eat anything. I'll get him a cheeseburger on the way home. For me too, I haven't eaten either...
    Joan, mom to my Angel Lena, Angel Gable, Angel Phoenix, Angel Doree, Cooper, Sibble, and now Raina.

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    Well, two hours and $520 later...

    a brief ultrasound, right adrenal enlarged, 0.87 cm and left one enlarged, 0.9 cm. Mottled spleen, no idea what that means.
    Blood pressure: 160's
    Urine culture - pending

    Her notes: "based on the recent tests, we know that 30mg AM and 10mg PM is too much, and although 10mg ONCE daily may be a reasonable dose (despite a lower than ideal PRE sample, the post sample was ideal), but may not be adequate with regard to the duration of its effect. In such cases, resuming TWICE daily dosing is recommended. Because of the low pre sample, we will lower the dose. Although it is admittedly an extremely low dose, given the findings with Gable in the past, I would prefer to start low and work up rather than risk making him "addisonian" again."

    So, we are doing 5mg twice daily. She said that Dr. Plunkett had not been speaking with her because she never would have taken him off of the Vetoryl completely. She was very thorough and very nice. Went over everything they had sent her, although a lot was hard to decipher because they still use index cards, instead of keeping the notes computerized...that drives me crazy. Some things I could not remember or communicate accurately, but while he was getting his ultrasound, I went into this forum on my phone and found a lot of the answers I couldn't answer off-hand.

    All in all, I am okay with her recommendations. We'll do an ACTH test in 10 - 14 days to see where he is at. They are more expensive, so I'll let my regular vet do the testing as they use the same lab anyway.

    I will begin the meds tomorrow morning. He had a rough day, although he was an angel! We stopped at our regular vet to pick up the meds, and I weighed him there. He's back up to 75lbs. When we went to get in the car, he stopped and wouldn't get in. He had to pee! Once home he drank about 4 quarts of water, didn't want to eat even though he hadn't eaten all day. I figured he was going to barf up the water and/or the food, so he didn't need the pill tonight.

    So now we start all over, it's almost a year to date. Hopefully, the urine will come back fine and we can get this under control again.

    After he went for his ultrasound, I wound up crying in the waiting room, all of it hitting me once again; being back there and remembering. When we went out to the parking lot, I remembered having them bring Lena's quilt out to me because I was afraid I would never see it again. Little did I know that I would never see her alive again. She died just a few hours later...I should have stayed.
    Joan, mom to my Angel Lena, Angel Gable, Angel Phoenix, Angel Doree, Cooper, Sibble, and now Raina.

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    You both are in my thoughts and prayers today. How were those cheeseburgers?!!!

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    We didn't get them, I was afraid he might throw up. He had some Peanut butter and Jelly sandwich with me when we got home.
    Joan, mom to my Angel Lena, Angel Gable, Angel Phoenix, Angel Doree, Cooper, Sibble, and now Raina.

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    I love PB&J sandwiches, just had one of those the other day! How are you both doing?

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