Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy- Good Bye Flynny We will miss you

Sharlene,
Spot was my brother, not Barbara's!:D

Hugs,
Kathy and Buddy:cool:

Hi Trish,

I read over the complete US report, and I think it looks great overall. Especially the part about no evidence of any more pheo!! Wow,what a lot of reading you have done on the diets. Great job, as always. It is so confusing, isn't it? I remember when I was trying to research kidney diets when Jasper's UPC was so high and the Dr said we had to start treating. I about drove myself crazy. There was so much to read and learn, and for kidney stuff it was so scary, the low protein versus moderate protein recommendations and opinions. You have done a much better job than I was able to do! ;). And how is the little man tonight? Hope you guys are having a good weekend!

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper

Wow Kathy, they are very very similar!! Even the tail could be Flynny's tail with that wee bit of black on the top :) Flynn has a wee bit more brown on his face but honestly they could be brothers!!! Thanks for posting that, it has put a huge smile on my face :D:D So cute aren't they! Flynn is a muttley too haha, mainly fox terrier though! I rescued him off a busy road when he was about 6 months old, so we have no idea what his parents were like. He is my first ever dog so I have learnt along the way, but I am so glad I found him. I am a little jealous of kids with dogs, now I have one I often think of the first 38 years of my life that were doggy less and I didn't even know what I was missing, the bond your share with Spot and now the Budster is so so special :D Awwww I love my dog! :):D:):D

Trish- do we have to be worried about how much calcium phosphate is in the food? The Royal Canin does not have it. I know Zoe's raw has it. I read U.C. Davis does not use calcium as a binder any more for kidney disease and I wonder if we have to think about how much phosphorus is in each diet?

Trying to look at all the issues.;):)

Also, I think it depends on exactly what is causing the inflamation and in Zoe's case it is bacteria which diet does not really solve, antibiotics do, thus the continuing low dose of metronidazole for her.

I don't think so at this stage Addy, most of the renal stuff I have read say to be careful with phosphorous the worse the renal function gets. Phosphorous was included in his blood tests last week and his is 1.14 (1.00 - 3.00), so it does not seem to be a problem as yet!! (or ever hopefully :) ) What is Zoe's?

In January it was 4.3 normal range being 2.5-7.9 so she is good but I want to keep it that way. We did not retest that in March and everything else increased in March so-----

When I switched Zoe to her raw diet four years ago we did it cold turkey and I had metronidazole on hand. I was scared too as I had so many bad reactions to every food I tried previously, sometimes only one piece of kibble. So it is natural to be worried. Do you have metronidazole or something on hand if you need it?

Ace inhibitors must be used with caution with Trilostane which is why I dont want to get to that point:):)

Im here if you need moral support.

Hi Trish-

I am so glad to read there is no evidence of reoccurrence of the pheo. Yay!!!! It seems everything looks pretty much the same except his small intestine. Was the swab removed from his small intestine? Could that have anything to do with his current intestinal issues?

I don't know anything about diets. I have fed Chey the same food for many years.

Take care. Soooo glad to hear the good news.

Ro

Morning you

How are you and the little man?? Any adventures? How's his belly been?? Mum and Dad ok?

Thank you for your sweet note on Tia's thread and the candle.

We had a good time, he wasn't as keen on the beach as usual but it was still a bit cold. Was nice to get away and I think we all needed it. I took pictures of princess with me and he kept stopping like she used to cause of the wind so we smiled at that. He was such a good boy and loved going away

I haven't seen him all afternoon as he has been in bed recovering :)

Hopefully I will catch you before work. Will be checking back :D

Big hug to you and a scratch for the wee man

Mel
Xxxxxxxx

Welcome back Mel, good to see you and I'm glad you had a good getaway. We all need those breaks sometimes.

We've been holding down the fort for you!!

Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hi everyone

Well it seems Flynn is not going to be vegedog after all :)

Just got off the phone after having a good chat with our local vet. He was very pleased with Flynn's IMS report and we had a very good discussion on dietary issues.

He wants Flynn to go onto the new Royal Canin allergenic diet which has just been released here in NZ. He is not sure if there is a wet food that can go with the biscuits as he agrees Flynn will not do well on an all biscuit diet but he is going to find out. He said we should transition him to the new diet over at least a two week period, keep him on his venison meat initially and start the biscuits slowly. If he will not eat biscuits only and if there is no Royal Canin wet food then we can supplement it with the Hills ZD to coat the biscuits. He thinks the benefits of this diet outweighs the inclusion of the chicken in the RC/Hills.

He wanted to know more about his dietary history and we talked about when I thought Flynn started having problems with chicken and he was quite right that it was associated with his dicey postop period when he had so many other things going on like the swab and pancreatitis so it might not even be the chickens fault.

If this does not work then we can go with the Purina HA which is soy based but apparently difficult to get hold of in NZ.

I am to keep all his current supplements going with this diet change. I told him about how over the last two weeks he has been good with only a few mucous covered but firm poops. He said that even normal dogs at times can have that and it is only a real problem if it is blood flecked which would indicate in Flynn's case more bowel inflammation.

One other thing I was concerned about is Flynn's ongoing elevated cholesterol level, his urine also had lipid droplets seen. He said high cholesterol in dogs is usually associated with liver problems which we know Flynn has, but they appear to be benign. I was concerned about possible atherosclerosis (like us humans get) and he said I am not too worry about that as dogs do not live long enough for those problems to manifest. So that was reassuring, but he did go on to say that of course high cholesterol can be associated with cushings and thyroid problems... so I just said, ok stop that right now... we not going there as he has no other symptoms of cushings so I do not even want to test for it! :eek:

Hmmmm... I think that's all for my report :D:D Ohhh I just thought of something for you Addy, we went through the ultrasound report and he said the renal cortical cysts are seen in a lot of dogs also and can be an incidental finding and often not cause any decreased renal function so there you go, I am not going to worry about the renal function especially when his latest UPC had the lowest protein count since April 2012!

So two happy campers here, bring on the new diet and lets kick this gastrointestinal problem into touch!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love to all xxxxxxx