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Hi Patti,
So happy to read that the new dose helped to keep Tipper from being spooked by the storms! What a relief that there's something that worked to keep her from all the usual distress which is not good for her...really happy for you, especially with thunder storm season here.
When you mentioned lumps do mean lipomas? Trixie has one and it feels a little smaller lately. From what I read they often can develop with age. I also assumed that the uneven distribution of fat caused by Cushings must have something to do with getting them, at least I would think that's a possibility.
I've added a 4mg capsule back into Trixie's dose in the morning..so it's been about 3 days and no more panting or rapid breathing. So glad I had some on hand.
Looks like a lot of unsettled weather here this week....we had no good walk today as it was raining and Trixie is really acting down in the dumps without any decent exercise..maybe tomorrow will dry enough for a morning walk, she is so used to that walk.
Hope both you and Tipper have a better night's sleep tonight.
Barbara
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Good morning Patti.
The bottle said to give Tia 1 mg of Valium, but I only gave her 1/2 mg because a whole one made her so groggy she couldn't even hold her head up. She never had a reaction to it though. I'm so glad it's helping Tipper. I worry about her.
You still haven't heard from the pain clinic? What in the the world is the hold up?? Doctors these day act like they are God, but don't care if they help you or not. It's a shame.
Gotta get ready for work. Sending love and prayers.
Donna
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Hi Everyone:
Yes it is dark and the threat of rain looms in the air. The dogs have already walked so they got some exercise. Last nite it was getting dark out and you could feel the dampness and Tipper panted a bit. She was drinking a little more water than usual the last 2 days also. I have to keep an eye on that. She did sleep for a while in bed, and the congestive noise came back!! So now I am leaning toward allergies. She slept the most part of the nite in the closet again, that has become her safe haven, and I don't blame her after all she ahs been through this season already. She also slept in a half an hour which was a treat until Toby started barking for us to get up, that little stinker!! Tipper did have white matter in her eyes this morning too, so it must be allergies and no more antibiotics then. I cut her hair on her butt yesterday, I held treats in one hand and the scissors in the other. She get so nasty about her butt being wiped and you can't let her in the house when she has poop on her! So I am hoping that helps the situation. I am not wanting to dose her for just rain so I am trying to keep track of the weather report and look out the window. This is still not as nerve wracking as before, so for that I am thankful. Donna Tipper takes 2mg whole. That seemed to put her in a good place where she did not have anxiety, but yet was not zonked out. It did make her a little tired and the down side is that she did take a nap later and then was up that nite quite a lot. It is still better that her being a nervous wreck, trying to dig thru the floor, running in and out of the closet and having her blood pressure affect her eyes and heart. I just wish the vet would have listened to me sooner and she would not have suffered like she has been. So with that under control I can say we are fortunate indeed that she is doing well otherwise. Now our next hurdle will be to get her ACTH, dental, and lumps removed without causing any harm to her. Then if her tumor has not changed we will be truly blessed. Could we be so fortunate? I pray we are. I am anxious to see a blood report on her too. I am now looking for the special instructions in my file from the cardiologist to be done in order that Tipper has no problems with her heart for this dental. I need to go over this with both Dr.s before her surgery to make sure there are no mistakes. Blessings
Patti
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Finally, something that helps Tipper get through the storms. That's great Patti.
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Great news, Patti!! :D I'm soooooo happy for Tipper and you!! Now, you can all get some rest! I know you worry about her so, and I know how scared she gets. This really seems to be the answer!! I have no clue why some doctors just don't seem to listen when people talk!! :( ...There's just no excuse for it! What's up with the pain clinic? If I didn't know better I'd have thought you lived in around me!! :eek:
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Hi Everyone:
So glad I did not dose Tipper. When it is just going to rain, I think she can handle that. It has not started, but Tipper knows and went in her closet. I am turning in early as I cleaned this whole house and I am tired. Called the pain clinic, no referral yet, so they say. I am calling my Dr. tomorrow and tell him, he will get things done. Tomorrow morning is blood pressure , we are supposed to have very bad storms with possible tornadoes. I have to plan her meds well for this. Blessings
Patti
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hi patti, i am shocked that you still do not have an apointment at the pain clinic!
but glad that the valium did help tipper survive the storm.
do you think the bp will be accurate when there are storms and tornado's?
i hope you will think about your safety too.
driving in a storm/tornado...brrr!
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Maybe tomorrow will not turn out as bad as they think. I'll have my fingers crossed. Glad you are getting some rest tonight Hopefully anyway.
We're suppose to have storms and possible thunderstorms here tomorrow and thursday. I might work from home on Thursday if still predicting thunder though. I have to get up early anyway to get over and vote so will check weather when I get back and see. I don't like to be away from molly if there is thunder or lightening. She would freak.
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
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Good morning Patti.
So happy that Tipper didn't have to take any meds. I thought about her last night because it stormed here, all night. How much does she weigh? Tia was 14 pounds and 1mg did her in. She would literally fall over when she tried to stand, so I gave her half.
Take care,
Donna
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Hi Patti
Thinking about you & Tipper. Was happy to read that the Valium helped her deal with the storms easier. The less stress for her the better. Hopefully no more storms coming your way.
Hugs Angelique Maya & Griffy Wiffy
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Hi Everyone:
This afternoon will definitely be a med day. WE are to get really bad weather and tornadoes that are coming from south of us. I need to make sure I time these meds just right so she gets the protection she needs as this is to go on for a while this evening and into the early morning. Donna I am so glad I have these. Tipper weighs about 18 lbs and takes 2mgs. She can still function well on that but it just makes her very calm and still and she just lays her head down. It does make me nervous that each time I give these she could have a reaction. Angelique this has been a long time coming as the vet was so opposed to giving her anything. She has suffered with this for weeks now. I am thankful it helps her get thru this weather. I took her this morning for her blood pressure check. It was fine so now we are going to have an easy day. I worked hard yesterday and am still tired, and need to call the pain clinic again!! I am tiring of it and am ready blow a gasket with them. Blessings
Patti
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Patti, we're crossing all fingers and paws here that Tipper makes it through the storms with the calming meds. My husky has some storm fear, but nothing as bad as your poor Tipper. Hugs to you both and take a restful day for yourself since you cleaned like crazy yesterday!
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Read your news in Huskos' thread...AWESOME it is working!
Hope it continues to do so!!! (fingers crossed!)
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Hi Everyone:
I wanted to wait to medicate Tipper until later. She was sitting on the bed, heard some rumbles of thunder and did nothing until Toby started barking at the thunder. I gave her a pill and she went in the closet. It is rumbling a lot so this should be working on her soon. She is not running in and out or acting crazy, I
hear no panting so I think she is ok for now. Don't know what I will do if this lasts all nite. I saw the forecast, all storms for over a week except this weekend. I will need more pills!!! Blessings
Patti
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They were calling for thunderstorms here today, but nothing happened, just some rain. Hoping that holds true for you too.
Have you noticed how long a 2mg Valium works for Tipper? Maybe it holds long enough you won't need to use that many.
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
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glad that tipper is not panicking anymore and that she has found a safe haven in the closet.
hope the dr. has given you enough pills, and that the weekend will be storm-free!.
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Looks like we didn't miss the storms tonight after all. We've had thunder and lightening. Molly is doing okay on the couch though with hubs, so that is good. Not much thunder now, just rain, so hope that is the end of that. :)
Hope you too escape the worst tonight.
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
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Hi Everyone:
Well we had the thunder and lightening too. I checked Tipper twice after I gave her the valium and she was just calmly resting in the closet on her pad in the corner. I think she went to sleep and was ok until around 4 am she came into bed. I don't have a good gauge on how long this is lasting her, as I fell asleep. It must be doing pretty good or she would be panting running in and out of the closet and over the bed to let me know she was stressed out. She did none of that so I am assuming she falls asleep and is calm. It is black as nite here now. We are awaiting another storm. I am waiting to see how much of this she can take. I actually think that giving her this valium helped boost her confidence because yesterday she sat on the bed listening to the rumbles of thunder and did not panic until Toby started barking. I think she is learning thru being calm with this drug, that this is not going to hurt her. At least that is what it seems to me right now, it could change who knows. The dogs have already walked so if it starts at least they got some exercise. My elderly neighbor is very nervous about what I going on with him. They are unable to find where his bleeding is coming from. He has had an upper and lower GI and today he gets scans. They have him on a liquid diet and he is so hungry he said. He is having to stay in bed too as they are afraid of him falling. Good thing I found a home for Delora's cat before all this happened. Delora is still hanging in there she is a tough old bird! Today is just laundry and that's all as I am not feeling well. My Dr. straightened everything out with the pain clinic they should be calling me by tomorrow than goodness. It has only been like three weeks!! Yesterday I made a taco casserole and it was so much better than fighting with individual tacos!! It makes a 9x13 pan so enough for quite a few people. If you can believe it my cat wanted some. Of course I put the brakes on that idea with the seasoning and onions he was not getting any. We are having a lot of mosquitoes with all this damp weather, so I am constantly looking down at the dogs to try and makes sure none get on them when we walk. Blessings
Patti
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Oh that sounds really good Patti, Taco casserole. Would you mind sharing the recipe in our recipe thread under anything else?
You always make such great sounding food. :) I get hungry. LOL
We had the thunder and lightening last night too. Not fun this one stressed molly out a bit.
Glad to hear your doctor has this mess straightened out with the pain clinic.
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
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Hi Everyone:
It cooled off here and I took Tipper on the porch for bubbles and she was chasing them and all of a sudden a down pour. It got her rattled and she wanted to climb up my leg. So I left her in and she went to the closet. I did not medicate her as they are not sure what is going to go on yet, and it is just rain and she can handle that. She is not panting or anything , just in the closet. If we are just in for rain I will not be giving her anything. We are just having an easy day today. Hope the thunder misses us and she will be ok. No wonder this poor dog is afraid to go outside! This has been going on for two months now! I felt a lump of calcium on the back of her leg just about as big as the eraser on a pencil. Do you think I should get the vet to get rid of it when he does her other lumps or leave it alone?? I want to get everything that needs done accomplished as I am not putting her to sleep again unless for emergency sake. The Taco Casserole recipe is posted in the recipe section now.Blessings
Patti
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Patti, if the lump doesn't crack or bother her. I would leave it alone. If Tipper starts to mess with it, than I would have it removed.
I wonder in time when you do use the Valium, Tipper will remember how calm she felt and realize that there is no reason to be afraid of the storms?
The most that Daisy would do is pop her head up if there was an exceptionally loud crack of thunder. We were SO lucky with her. Not afraid of anything, very smart, unending affection, and the sweetest most tolerant disposition.
I pray that her personality transcends into the next doxie who joins our family. Not for quite some time though. I <3 you Daisy Mae "monster" Howe - Momma
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I am totally sick of this weather it is just storm after storm!
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i hope that your pain clinic problem will be resolved tomorrow and that the storms are over!
do you have enough valium in case you need it?
it is still hot here, but not as humid anymore.
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Hi Everyone:
We are supposed to be having a storm, I have not given Tipper anything. I am letting her alone, she is laying on the floor by my bed, which she never does. Sheknows the weather is iffy and she has her head up smelling the air, and the ears are at alert. We are going to ride this one out with no meds. I just hope for no crashing thunder in the middle of the nite.Blessings
Patti
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I'm hoping that is a good sign and that maybe the Valium was enough to show her that she doesn't need to be so afraid?
Crossing my fingers.
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Well, maybe Tipper's catching on....that the bad noises are outside and not inside..........and she's safe inside. Like Valerie said. That would be great! I know Eli is like that......well, except for his garbage and food bowl phobia. I suppose I'll have to buy him new food bowls the next shopping trip. :D
The one thing I'm really dreading is July 4th!! These nuts have firecrackers going for a month or more!! Eli's really freaks out then outside! :eek:
You're STILL waiting for that pain clinic?? DANG!! That's not good! :(
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Hi Patti,
Been thinking about you and Tipper as it's STORMING here. The thunder is as bad as the lightening and Tanzee slept through it all. Tank jumps up and barks when it thunders, but not little girl!
No pain clinic yet I see. What the heck is taking so long? Doctor just kill me...
Have a good day.
Donna
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Hi Everyone:
Well last nite we just got rain. This afternoon we are in for heavy rain and storms. I am glad I gave Tipper no meds last nite. Donna I am getting worried if I do have to continue with these meds that sometimes they can have a reverse affect and cause them more anxiety!! I hope we do not get to that point as I will be out of tricks up my sleeve. My Toby barks at the thunder too, and then that is what really gets Tipper going. Toby has the biggest mouth for a small dog! JoAnn Tipper is never rattled by fireworks, she knows the difference. This year since she has become afraid of mower noise etc. it may be different!! It is a pity to see them so terrified of a noise you know will not hurt them. When Tipper was small I used to take her outside and point up in the sky and tell her look at the airplane. To this day if I say its an airplane she looks up in the sky. Yesterday a transport helicopter went over head while she was going potty and she got rattled. I told her look up at the sky its a plane, and she was ok after seeing it. She also did something she has not done in a while. My old neighbors used to get the biggest kick out of her smelling flowers. I would pick her one when she was small and tell her to smell it. Now she walks up to them and takes a deep breath it is so cute. I am glad all these things are embedded in my memory. If I get no call by 12:00 noon form the pain clinic I am calling some poor unfortunate person who answers as I am beyond fed up with them. I am starting to question if I even want to go to a place that does not know what pain means as in now. I hope this storm missed us, but want the cold front to come in. We walked already and the dogs had their cold packs in their harnesses. I had to go slow as my breathing is bad in humidity and Tipper has to walk very slow because of her heart. So if it starts storming at least they got some exercise. My elderly neighbor is having a time at the hospital. He still does not know what is wrong with him, and I think he is afraid to ask. I told him he is never going to get out of there if he does not ask what is going on. He wants to come home so I told him to ask the Dr. when he comes in today, what the diagnosis is and what the treatment is for it, and can he go home? I feel bad for old people that wont' stand up for themselves, it makes it very difficult. I have arrange for another neighbor man to take his car up to him and drive him home in it when he is discharged. I will help him with phone calls if he needs help at home, or cook him something, but that is it, I have enough stress right here. Blessings
Patti
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Patti,
Probably too many people need the services they offer but their not big enough to handle it. I hope they call you soon.
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Hi Patti! You sure have your hands full. Lucky for me, as I've said Eli isn't afraid of the storms, probably the only thing these days that he isn't afraid of. Now, if he was outside it might be a different story. He doesn't even seem to mind getting wet to go out to pee, oddly. Before he got sick...he wouldn't go out in the rain at all. ..He's always been afraid of gun shots and the firecrackers. So, that was nothing new for him. He didn't used to be afraid of anything, except for that. He doesn't even bark. When other dogs bark at him, he just looks at them, wondering what the heck is wrong with them! LOL .....He is funny! ....He has barked though, on occasion, if he hears something odd in the hall....and that's really rare. Funny too.....Eli has always loved smelling flowers too. He's funny doing that. Too cute! He has his days. :D
But, today I have to say...he's being a butt! :(
Isn't there any other place you can go to a pain clinic? That place doesn't really seem to have their act together. imo
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Hi Everyone:
Well I think we may be safe, and could we possibly be so lucky that the storm missed us?? The temperature dropped to the 50s what a difference. Tipper is loving this weather. Both dogs enjoyed bubbles on the porch today. It was windy and carried them all over the street, my neighbors were wondering where they were coming from!! Tipper and Toby are napping, and Elvis is busy destroying his new toy. My neighbor comes home tomorrow so my other neighbor will be picking him up. I may have to go to the grocery store for him. That is no problem
as I need some things too. Yikes gas is 4.00 a gallon here!! Hope that is short lived! I am hoping for a quiet not for Tipper. She had gunk in her eyes again this morning so this must be allergies. I am resting with the doggies. Blessings
Patti
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Hi Patti,
So did the neighbor man find out what was wrong with him since he is able to come home?
Did the pain clinic call you or you them? Horrible how long it is all taking to get an appointment.
i had a mammogram this morning and was on pins and needles because of our experience, but it didn't hurt at all, the lady was very good with that machine. She has done mine before so that was good.
It does sound like Tipper has handled the recent storms fairly well. She must feel comfy in that closet.
Thanks for the recipe!
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
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Hi Everyone:
Well the storm missed us thank goodness. Tipper fell asleep on the bed and woke up looking around and went in the closet. That is her go to place now, it makes me nervous that she is not with me though. My neighbor man comes home this afternoon. He had a colonoscopy they found a bad vein and repaired it and he is anemic. I will send him some food later and his daughter will come tomorrow for Fathers Day. It is my least favorite day as I truly miss my dad. The pain clinic never called so Monday morning I am calling bright and early, and I will have an appointment. This has been enough fooling around with very uncaring people I might add, so don't know why I even want to go there except there is no others around here. Tipper loves the cooler weather that blew in here. I hope it stays like this. I saw the weather and almost every day next week is thunderstorms. We have to live around these horrible storms! I know several of us were talking about leaving our babies with others and you don't trust anyone, so I just wanted to say I don't either so I have a nanny cam. I see nothing wrong with my dog sitter other than laziness to get away from the tv. I know you would never think I could trust anyone with my Tipper and I don't. God help the person who even thought of doing something wrong to her. The sitter does have her with them at all times and is nice to her and Toby. I know some people do not condone snooping, but this is Tipper so all bets are off where she is concerned. I am making some potato salad for the weekend so I don't have to mess with food too much. I will send some food over to my elderly neighbor as he told me he had not gone shopping. When you first get out of the hospital who feels like running to the grocery store?? I will get him what he needs this week when I go. Blessings
Patti
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Good morning Patti.
I can't believe the pain clinic hasn't called you. Have you talked to your doctor's office to see if they even sent a referral over? Could be your doctor. My doctor that I've used for about 17 years just closed his office in April. Left all us patients high and dry. I got a letter last week that said when you find another doctor they will forward my records. Did not even recommend anyone, just said to go fine your own doctor. I was pissed. Seems the doctors these days are just in practice for the money.
Tipper reminds me so much of Tia. She tolerated all noises except thunder storms. Strange little creatures they are! And I think it is awesome that you have nanny cam for you babies. All pet parents should have one. I don't trust anyone with my babies either. I was keeping my daughters 5 pound BLIND shih tzu for a few months when she moved once and our youngest son had some friends over and they were being mean to her and making fun of her. I was so hurt and furious with my on child for allowing this to happen. He and all the boys got their asses chewed out and shamed beyond belief.
Glad the neighbor man is getting out of the hospital, and that you don't have to go get him. Some people are getting as bad as doctors in that they don't care what problems you've got going on. You are expected to drop everything and jump when they need something. Shame...
The weather here is beautiful and I'm praying for some continued beautiful weather for Tipper. When the neighbors are shooting fireworks off, when turned the tv up a little louder, made sure the ac was on, turned the fans on a stand on high and since we have hurricanes and the power goes out sometimes, we bought two window ac units that we can plug into the generator, we turn those on too. Just made more noise in the house so Tia couldn't really hear the fireworks. Oh the things we will do for our furchildren!!
Sending love and prayers,
Donna
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Hi Everyone:
Well the potato salad is over with so on to other things now. Donna the pain clinic never called me. By the time they do I probably will be so used to this pain I won't need them!! I am calling Monday anyway, first thing in the morning. Tipper and Toby are enjoying the day as they love it when it is cool out. I am going to play ball and do bubbles with them. I haven't even had an opportunity to get my summer clothes out fully. I have just sufficed with a few outfits so I think I will do that later while Tipper is not occupying the closet and wanting me to get out of her space. Yes I never leave my girl with anyone. My dad used to always be my dog sitter when he was here, and I had someone I could trust. Donna one time I used to have a toy poodle, and took her to a groomer who gave fantastic hair cuts in her home. After a few years of using her, one day I was early, and was walking up the sidewalk and heard her and her helper yelling at a dog. I stood still for a few minutes and heard them hitting this dog and daring it to bite them again!! I almost lost my mind. They got my dog, I threw the money on the counter and walked out without a word, as I would have decked someone. I looked at the dog they were grooming which was a tiny poodle and it made me want to vomit knowing I had subjected my baby to them. So seemingly the nicest people that you think are pet friendly are not! I trust no one, even at the vets with my Tipper. Lord help anyone that would harm a hair on her, they would not live to tell the story. That is awful those friends did that to that poor dog. I know when kids get in with others they can do things they normally would not do. There was a man awaiting sentencing near here for killing his dog with a hammer because he no longer wanted him. He is in jail over it right now. Still the laws let people off so easy. Wish we could force change. Blessings
Patti
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Hi Everyone:
Well Tipper wants outside to break up a Blue jay fight. Four blue jays against one starling! Tipper is watching out the window and her tail is going and that means she wants to mix it up a bit with them all. Poor starling has had enough just trying to get a bite to eat and got mobbed. Well I guess it was too good to be true sending my neighbor to get the other neighbor!!! The one going to pick up the other just called me and said he is going to have to stay there for a couple hours they are starting medicine in an IV. Now why did someone not say this before I sent him there. He sounded disgusted and sorry her went. This will no doubt take up his day which he had not planned and told me so!! Oh well I will make him a cake or something and he will have to get over it. I am glad it was not me, as Tipper would have had a fit waiting with me that long. So glad I did not go to get him! The dogs have played ball, and we are going to do bubbles soon. JoAnn you have to try bubbles with Eli I bet he would love them. Sharlene you have to get Molly some too. If the senior citizens do not make it home soon one may have to splurge for dinner! Blessings
Patti
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Hi Everyone:
Just had a bubble session with the dogs. They are loving this cooler weather. My neighbor called and he has still not left the hospital. The guy I sent to get him is probably furious with me, I do feel really bad. He has been there 7 hours now!!! Does anyone have any experience with their dog having the paper thin skin and surgery? I keep thinking how thin Tipper's skin is and I hope this surgery will not bring her any healing problems and start anything??? Blessings
Patti
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still no call from the pain clinic.....tell them you will send me, that will scare them!
i would be scared of surgery too.
is it really necessary? do they bother tipper?
i have no experience with them.
ian's skin recovered very fast from the 2 mean hotspots he has had, so i hope tipper's skin will heal fast too.
do you still get updates from grace and delora's cat?
hope you will have a lazy sunday.
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Hi Everyone:
My elderly neighbor finally made it home! My other neighbor I got to pick him up was steaming when they got home 8 hours later. He said he was hungry and tired and is never doing it again!! I feel bad as I am the one who set it up. Too bad my elderly neighbor told him to be there 8 hours before he was discharged!! I think I would have gotten disgusted waiting 8 hours for someone too. The dogs have walked already. I have really been trying to pay attention to any bugs going around them as the mosquitoes are carrying some new disease that is really bad. We do not go to early and I never let them out after dusk except to potty. Tipper does not need any more issues! She is white and they would probably go for her right away. I took over some food for my neighbor. He is kind of frail after a week in the hospital. I will shop next week for him when I go. Tipper went in the closet again, so I assume this will be an every nite thing. I cannot see the tremors and that is good and bad as I like to keep track of what is going on with her. It is getting close to mating season for Elvis and he has been strutting his feather and pinning his eyes. Not a good sign to put your hand in his cage. He was very lonely yesterday, but I was not taking him out and getting a bite. His hormones are going wacky now I guess and he is aggressive, so I will give him his space. Toby is so spoiled with the bubbles that I have to get some more or else just pour some dish soap in these. He barks at you until you blow bubbles for him. I am going to take them to the llamas today. I wish all the men on the forum a Happy Father's Day and all of you ladies with hubbies, and dads, hope they have a good day too. Spend time with your dad today if possible it is a blessing.
Patti
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Patti, you do so much for those around you. It's time for their families to step up. You have much to much going on and I worry that you'll overload.
Best to give Elvis his space, I agree since birds can really do damage and are stronger than they look.
I know that you're missing your father. He is watching over you.