Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Like what others have said, I didn't see anything that looked like the seizures I have seen in dogs...but then, Sophie's aren't the "usual" so I am no judge nor expert. But most of what I could tell in that video looked like dreaming to me until close to the end. Then it was the torso that got my attention. Her rib cage seemed to lift as if she were going to get up. Squirt moves a lot like that now trying to get up when on her side. But it's due to aging bones and muscles, not a seizure in her case. ;) So based solely on this video, I don't see anything that would worry me or make me think "seizure". Squirt's legs move like that very, very often when she is asleep, day or night. I couldn't see any face movement in the video. I hope you can get one of the bad ones you see.

With Tasha there was no question she was seizing - it was what I guess most of us think of when we think "seizure" and she was affected by them for hours after, sometimes not recovering before another hit. Squirt was debilitated after hers for several months - tho I wonder if hers wasn't a stroke instead but Doc said seizure. I know from doing a tiny bit of research on seizures for Soph, tho, that they can vary widely and often no cause is ever known. The type she apparently has are called "focal seizures".

Good morning Patti. I've been think about you and Tipper lately.

I read all the symptoms of the Cushings and the side effects of the meds and think back on Tia's little life. As bad as it was losing her, I'm thankful that she didn't have to go through all this any longer than she did. I miss her terribly though.

Happy Easter to you and Tipper.

Much love,
Donna

I know what you mean Donna, sometimes I think why am I letting this go on, only to get worse, but I love her so, and her quality of life is good.

Hi Everyone:
Thanks for the feedback on the video. I am not concerned with any foot or leg movement. I am only concerned with the end of the video. She always does this deep breathing before this all starts. Then her torso kind of ripples and twists, and when she gets the bad ones her stomach goes in and out like she is giving birth, her face and eyes start to twitch real and. When this starts it can move her up off the bed from the rocking of her abdomen. One of the other reasons I suspected the myoclonic seizures was I watch TV in bed at nite. Could the flickering of the light from the TV be setting this off?? After documenting her exercise for a while now I am thinking it is not connected to this in any way. The
doggies have walked thred times and are resting. I did break my resting day and clean the kitchen and laundry floor. That is about all I will do till Monday. Watch out for that Easter Bunny!!

Hope you have a good Easter weekend Patti.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Patti, I could not get my lap top to play the video so sorry I cant give you any feed back. As long as you feel Tipper is still enaged with a quality of life, you keep going, sweetie. We all know how much she means to you.

I do want to wish you and yours a Happy Easter.

Big hugs

i wish you a quiet and sunny eastern [with a few good walks of course]
we do have 2 days of eastern overhere. so monday is a holiday too.

Happy Easter to you Patti..and to all your babies...Tipper and Toby, Elvis and of course the kitties...can't remember everyone's name. I hope you all enjoy the beautiful spring day! It's quiet cool here but that's better for Trixie anyway.

Barbara :)

Happy Easter Patti, Tipper, Tobey and gang. :) I hope you have had a wonderful day and that Tipper got through the night okay.
I wish I could give you better input and know more about seizures, but I think you know more than me on this. I just hope that whatever it is, that you and your IMS and neuro team can figure it out.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
Tipper did well last nite, but was up roaming around and she kept me awake, so I
am dragging a bit. My neighbor called yesterday and wanted me to com and eat with him and his daughter. It was a lovely thought, and would have been nice to get out, but I will not leave my Tipper alone ever. He understood and it was nice of him not to say it's only a dog to me as many do. Earlynthis morning at 2:30
am my ice maker got jammed and was making all kinds of noise. I had to get up and fix it. There was a piece of ice not letting the tray dump, so I managed to get the hunk of ice out and it went quiet then. The dogs were growling at it and Elvis got nervous and started talking from under his cover. I got in bed and Elvis wanted to continue singing tiny Bubbles. That is his favorite song. So we all covered our ears and fell asleep until 5:00am when Tipper the ripper got up for the day! Needless to say I am a bit sluggish today. Getting some shorts out of the closet and ready for some nice weather to stay. Hope you all had a wonderful Easter/Passover. Blessings
Patti

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Originally Posted by goldengirl88

Iraklis:
Tell me about taking the Melatonin at the wrong time of day. I have not seen this.
Patti

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It is a hormone mostly produced when we sleep at night...
It only makes sense to give it at night, giving it in the morning would probably cause a hormonal imbalance.

http://www.dogcancerblog.com/more-me.../#.U1UnPFfQ5hQ
As far as dosing per the link above...i would start low
(should also say that out of all the things i have suggested here, i did not have the chance to give melatonin to Husko)

Hi Everyone:
Well Tipper will not be tested Wednesday. The IMS assistant called and said she had a death in the family. We had to reschedule for next Wednesday, and they coordinated the eye Dr. and canceled the previous appointment. I told her to leave enough time for the US because if the IMS is late in traffic I do not want the eye Dr. ripping into me like last time. She said they would be responsible for that. She also said she has experience with the eye Drs. Temper and laughed. I understand, but am disappointed as I want this over with. Last nite I just layer there thinking about it and worrying, no we have another week of this!!. Then I got the order from Diamondback and again, it was a double order, split in half and two shipping charges. That really burns me. The time before it was a double
order too. So this time she told me to keep it and they would give me credit on
my card for it. I cant afford one order yet alone two! You will love this one Sharlene, Tipper is holding her front paw up and not walking on it. I guess Trixie and Molly called her today and passed the word to make your mom worry! She is doing it off and on, not all the time. I think she jumped off the bed and hurt herself again when I was in the bathroom. Normally she just follows me into the
bathroom. I guess that's it, I cant use the bathroom anymore!! This is really narrowing things down! Blessings
Patti

Oh my God Patty I can't believe all these dogs are having their issues with the front leg that is just crazy. Molly did hers jumping up that seems like most the time it happens jumping down which makes sense. I'm sorry you have to wait to get the testing done till next week I know it's a real worry whenever I could think about is what's going on inside of them. Yes I can see how not be over to go the bathroom would be very limiting and your lifestyle.

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
Tipper was in and out of the closet last nite, as it rained and she was anticipating thunder. She was uncomfortable, but by no means frantic like when it gets bad out. Also she is having breathing issues at nite, I can hear her making noises again, and more struggling to get air. Sometimes it sounds like the noise is coming from her nose, and sometimes her throat. She did have a bad episode last nite with her trachea collapsing. She immediately panics and goes crazy knowing she cannot get air, I guess anyone would! She vets Adequan next week so as much as I do not want to do it, she may need two shots a month instead of one. We are having a lazy day as it is raining still and dreary out. I am not feeling my best so I will rest and maybe clean the laundry room this afternoon. Blessings
Patti

Oh how scary when the trachea problems occur. :(

Rest is good. Taking it slow is good. :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
I finished the laundry room today even though I was going to rest. So one more room done. I cooked a roast beef dinner and took some to my elderly neighbor. It is his favorite, he loves mashed potatoes and gravy. Tipper was acting nervous today as it kept raining, but it has stopped and she is on alert to see if it starts. She is more nervous of course when her cortisol is lower. I am glad she gets Adequan next week, she is having a lot of noise going on from the trachea. I am tired and plan on resting the remainder of the nite with my babies. Tomorrow is blood pressure for Tipper so we will be up and out early. The temperature dropped and it will be 36 tonite. I heard it was snowing in Ontario! Blessings
Patti

Snowing in Ontario??!!!:eek::eek:
Not here thank goodness!! Judi? I haven't seen her saying anything about it and I'm pretty sure she would if it dares to snow up at her place again. Maybe they meant west or northern Ontario. I don't put anything past Thunder Bay or Sault Saint Marie area.

Good for you to enjoy a nice peaceful night with the furbabies.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

i am back after 3 days without internet. my pc was at the pc doctor.
it is fixed now, but i am not too happy with vista so far. i miss my w-xp.........
i am sorry that you will have to wait another week for tipper's us.
hope you have finished your spring cleaning?

Don't tell me Tipper also has hurt her leg again! What's going on with these pups? I hope she's okay and having a good night. So, so nice of you to take care of your elderly neighbors like you do...you should have a lot of good Karma built up. Hey, that reminds me of Karma the cat on the fund raising site! I wish there was some follow-up on that cat I would love to know how that little sweetie is doing.
Going to get pretty chilly here overnight and tomorrow, bet you had some of that today.

Barbara

Patti, hopefully rest will do all of you some good and Tipper's paw will improve. Rained here all day and thankfully,Daisy isn't bothered by it.

Hi Everyone:
We got back form getting bp and weight. Well the bp was excellent, and the weight was up a tad, bit she drank a lot of water yesterday for some reason. Tipper was all about the room last nite so I was not able to see any tremors. It is raining here some will try to walk if it let's up. I am slowing down today, may clean the cat room later on, but not feeling it right now. I am going to post later as I want to get my Elvis put for a while and give Tipper some supplements. Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti..well great news on the blood pressure!! yay for Tipper. I know the BP is always a bit of a worry so I'm glad you know she's doing great with that.
Was a beautiful cool morning here but we only walked a little bit..even though there was NO limp. I wrote about it on my thread. It's cloudy now and supposed to get really windy. Trixe is marching around with a toy in her mouth trying very hard to get me to chase her. :)
Hope you have a good day.

Barbara

wonderful news! Patti so glad her bp was good :)

Hi Everyone:
Well the rain stopped so the doggies were able to get two walks in. Tipper drank more water than usual yesterday, and I am wondering if she retained some as she had a few extra ounces on the scale today. I need to talk to the vet Tuesday when Tipper gets Adequan, and tell him she needs it more often and that she is having lots of tracheal issues lately. I wish our hospital appointment was behind
us but uunfortunately it is not. I cannot help but worry. I didn't do a lot today, I am not feeling well and have little energy. Toby really misses playing with Tipper since they have been separated, so today he was sticking his paw thru the gate
and trying to kiss her. Tipper wasn't having it, so Toby kept looking at me like make her make up with me. He is very sweet and kisses everyone, but is Leary of strangers. My elderly neighbor brought me some throw away plates and some foil. I said thanks, but what's this for. He said in case you make me any more dinners, you won't have to use your plates!! I think he must of liked that roast beef dinner! I was so tired last nite I almost fell asleep without giving Tipper her Soloxine. Blessings
Patti

I'm happy to hear that Tippers BP was good as I know that is a worry.

Nice they were able to get a couple walks in today too.

Awww, poor Toby, he just wants to be friends and there is this dog in the very same house and no play time. Poor guy. He must wonder why she doesn't like him.

Hope you get to feeling better.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

smart neighbor, hint; he wants more dinners made by you....
i hope you will be feeling better tomorrow.
it is 22C and humid and sticky nights. not good for cush doggies.
glad that tippers bp was ok.

Patti, you do so much for your neighbors, I think that it's about time that they give back to you :)

Great news on Tipper's BP! Poor Toby just doesn't understand why there's no play time with Tipper. Why do you think her attitude has changed toward him?

Hi Everyone:
Valerie Tipper never really liked him, but tolerated him. Jack Russell's only care about themselves, they are very selfish. Since she has gotten further into this disease, she has little patience, even with me. Everything must be in a hurry according to what Tipper wants. She gets angry when I take too long putting her harness or coat on. So she just has little tolerance for Toby's little antics and barking at her which really sets her off. Bad combo as Yorkies keep yapping and will not stop, then Tipper snaps.
Tipper had some tremors last nite, but the main worry was the trachea. For the first time ever she hacked twice and I heard her like trying to clear mucous from her throat. Tipper never hacks or coughs and this was odd. Then this morning she had a big blob of mucous in her one eye. They are all connected so what is the source of this mucous is what I cannot figure out. I guess the stickiness of the mucous could add to the collapse problems of the trachea by blocking her airway. She kept swallowing all nite long I could hear her make hard swallows. The antihistimine the IMS recommended I stopped using as it said do not use if you have seizures and the neurologist could not give me a definite answer. On Wednesapday I will ask if it is safe to use for her, also she is on a new medication so I need to know it mis OK with that too. She was very restless last nite and up at 5 am again. I am very tired as I had to wrestle with that stupid ice maker at 2 am. It started all kind of racket. From now on of I remember I will check it out before retiring for the nite. Delora is sick because the room they put her in is freezing cold and her blood is thin, and they come to give her a shower at 2 am and think nothing of letting her sit in there with a wet head. Needless to sy her immune system is compromised and she got sick and had to go on antibiotics. Her brother will be here Friday from North Carolina to see her, and she is happy for that. Blessings
Patti

Sorry to hear that Delora is sick on top of everything else. It will be good for her to see her brother.

You have a lot of items to cover off with the specialists next week. Hopefully you'll have some more answers.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
Sorry I am just not up to it today. I called the vet this morning and asked if Tipper could have the antihistamine the IMS said to give Tipper for mucous would be OK with the Soloxine. They said yes so I gave her a half of one. She walked three times today so she did lay down and rest. She did not seem to be making all the breathing noise of last nite. I will give her another before bed time and see if it helps her tonite. The IMS said it would dry up mucous so we will see. Blessings
Patti

Did you say the nursing home staff gives Delora a shower at 2am? That sounds weird and unlikely. If she has even a little dementia she will probably be very mixed up with the time of the day..that's very common especially with people who are institutionalized.
Hard to imagine the overnight staff ever gives showers unless a patient has an accident.

Barbara

Barbara:
They really do it, as my next door neighbors daughter is a nurse that used to work there, and she did it is because of being short staffed, and it is not as busy then. I still think it is a horrible thing to do to her at that hour. Poor thing gets bronchitis real easy too. Blessings
Patti

i hope the antihistamine will do the trick with tipper's breathing issues.
speaking of which, i have to go and take mine.
does it bother her when walking, or is it just at night?
mucous bothers me also when lying down.
hope you are able to rest in between walks and cleaning the house.

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Hi Everyone:
Sorry I am just not up to it today. I called the vet this morning and asked if Tipper could have the antihistamine the IMS said to give Tipper for mucous would be OK with the Soloxine. They said yes so I gave her a half of one. She walked three times today so she did lay down and rest. She did not seem to be making all the breathing noise of last nite. I will give her another before bed time and see if it helps her tonite. The IMS said it would dry up mucous so we will see. Blessings
Patti

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Glad to hear the antihistamine seems to be helping Tipper, I hope it continues. HUGS

Thank you I hope it helps. She's napping now and does not sound congested, and she is not doing all the swallowing hard like she was. I am wanting to know where this mucous is coming from as she never had this before Cushing's???

Hi Everyone:
I just wanted to mention I heard something on tv as I was cooking yesterday, but did not catch it all. It was an advertisement for some drug. I caught the caution part of it and it said something about if you notice muscle tremors once they start they will continue. That made me think about Tipper's situation and maybe the Vetoryl causing this, but when taken off for a few days the tremors continued. This must be something permanent that this causes, and they will always be present?? Anyway I am trying to get this housecleaning done and am in the guest bathroom. Not feeling great so I picked the smallest of the rooms to do today. I have walked Tipper as it is supposed to rain. Next week almost all week is storms so I need to get something for Tipper. I noticed last nite there was no congested sound, and no continual hard swallowing on Tipper's part. Maybe the mucous is coming from the sinuses?/ I know I read that Cushings narrows their nasal passages and could be a contributing factor in their snoring. She is not making a lot of throaty sounds thank goodness. It seems to have helped her. I wonder if there is any harm in her staying on them? I will have to ask the IMS this will be question number 500!! I guess that's why they make the big bucks?? Blessings
Patti

So glad to hear that Tipper has a better night and I would assume that you had a better one too if she did.

Well, Dechra does say that tremors can be one of the side effects of vetroyl, but nothing about whether they are permanent or not. Might be a good question to ask them, if the tremors continue if medicine isn't given.

ugh, storms. Raining here now, but not a thunderstorm, just normal spring showers. (so far)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

my mocous is coming from the sinuses too, so it sounds familiar to me.
antihistamins do help, but there is still mucous coming down.
especially when lying down.
hope there wil be no thunderstorms next week for tipper's sake.
it is hot and humid overhere, so we did have some thunderstorms.
cush dogs do not handle this type of weather very well.

Patti, I'm so glad that the antihistamines are helping Tipper.
That's crazy that they give Delora a shower at 2am.

Hi Everyone:
I take Tipper for Adequan Tuesday and it won't be too soon for me. Even with the pills I have been giving Tipper for this mucous last nite she was doing all that hard swallowing again. Also on Tuesday I just have. Talk to the vet and get something done for Tipper concerning these storms. I can see when it rains she is already gearing herself up for something bad. We simply cannot go on like this since she cannot wear the dap collar all the time without scratching her neck raw. I have tried the diffusers , you name it we tried it. She must have something safe to get thru this.she was restless last nite and up at 5 am again. We are to have bad storms all next week and I am really scared for her safety. We go to the hospital on Wednesday so she will be in the car, which she knows she cannot get out, and seems to handle it better than in the house. She just lays down on the seat and does not look up. I pray this all goes well. We are going to walk as it going to be nice out today. Blessings