Leslie, It sounds like Squirt enjoyed the time in the woods on her walk regardless of the other dogs. You are a fabulous mom.
Thinking of you and Squirt...Prayers of peace, comfort and mercy.
Sharon, norms and millie
Printable View
Leslie, It sounds like Squirt enjoyed the time in the woods on her walk regardless of the other dogs. You are a fabulous mom.
Thinking of you and Squirt...Prayers of peace, comfort and mercy.
Sharon, norms and millie
Hi ya'll,
Squirt has had several pee accidents in the house, her drinking is increasing, she is restless at night (almost anxious at times), panting badly at night. Yesterday morning she acted hungry at breakfast but wouldn't eat. She finally did eat about 2 hours later than usual and ate most of her food - something I am always very grateful for these days! I had to wake her for lunch, which she refused but again after a couple of hours, she did eat some, not much but some. At supper she ate when it was presented and had a good appetite. About 9PM last nite, she wanted out to pee. Again at 11PM when she also drank a good bit of water. At 1AM she wanted out to pee and then drink again...and she was hungry! I gave her two treats which she ate with no hesitation. At 4AM she woke me up wanting down. I thought she had to pee but no, she was hungry again and I saw some of that starving desperation in her eyes again. I gave her a little bit of kibble and she ate it all happily. At breakfast this morning, she was hungry and after a bit of doctoring she ate all her food - her usual food with a bit of FreshPet added but no kibble soup this time. Then she took 2-3 steps and peed a huge clear puddle on the kitchen floor. All this tells me her cortisol is getting high again and I am in a quandary as to what to do.
The cortisol might help with the pain element we are dealing with if I don't treat but I don't want her miserable with cush signs. IF this is liver disease we are facing, the Lyso will probably have to be stopped anyway, which will mean the signs will rage full force. My gut says to go ahead and start her back on the Lyso anyway and maybe try spreading out the dosing a bit more. What do I do???? I cannot seem to think when it comes to my own babies...hard enough with others but darn near impossible with my own. :o Thoughts? please....
Hey Leslie: I am so sorry Squirt is not well. Do you suppose she has got her times mixed up. I know most dogs seem to go on habit, at least mine do. CoCo now gets up at 3:00 a.m. and we cannot break him of the habit so we just get up with him. He eats when he gets up at 3:00 and now thinks 10:00 is also the time to eat. Squirt has been so sick and I know you take care of her at all hours. Would it hurt her to wait until she is more stable to start her back on the Lysodren. She seems to be improving every day. For some reason Cushing seems to make them forget that they have to go outside to pee, I guess they just cannot hold it. Old people have weak bladders so I guess it is the same with our furbabies. Sometimes I get up with a wet spot on the carpet and I know CoCo could not hold it, time for the resolve. I know you are the most knowledge about this disease than anyone and whatever you decide will be the right thing to do. Love, JoAnne
Oh Leslie,
I think you need to go with your gut, only YOU know our sweet Squirt best.
Yes, Lysodren is not liver friendly but neither is elevated cortisol. If her Cushing symptoms are bothering her then, if this were me, I would be inclined to treat her.
Sending you and Squirt tons of huge and loving hugs, Lori
I agree with Lori 100 %.
And I think I'd be inclined to try giving the Lysodren again, too. We went through some similar questioning with Barkis, but decided to continue giving trilo because without it, all he did was sit like a lump and pant CONSTANTLY, 24/7. He looked as though he felt absolutely awful. Keeping our angels comfortable is such a balancing act, and sometimes all we can do is keep trying and experimenting.
Sending love to you all.
Dear Leslie,
I have no words of wisdom for you. I just want to say I hope Squirt starts feeling better from her cushings symptoms whichever path you take.
Always thinking of you, Squirt and the gang. Sorry, I've been lost for a while. I do still peek in once in while or when time allows, which lately is hardly ever. Grrrrrrrrrr....:mad:
Tight hugs.
xo Jeanette
I'd probably restart if it were me, based upon the symptoms and that both cortisol and lysodren are not going to be good If it is liver disease, but at least one of them will help squirt Maybe to feel better. If it works out that it's too much pain could the lysodren be cut back at all?
Have you tried Trilostane? So far, Daisy seems to be doing very well on that. Crossing fingers :)
I'm not Leslie but just so you (and anyone else that is new reading this) know one can't just switch between these two drugs. Squirt has been on lysodren and doing great for a long time. The problem is not lysodren. Her dog has been sick and one should not give lysodren NOR trilostane to sick dogs. She's walking a fine line and trying to make a decision as to what to do. I know your question was with good intentions - it just isn't an alternative worth considering in this situation. KimQuote:
Originally Posted by doxiesrock912
Leslie, I think you have proven that Squirt's issues aren't related to lysodren/cortisol levels and the symptoms returned so obviously he needs it. I actually like your idea of taking the same dosage and splitting it to increase the frequency. That way the dose is lower and should be less of an impact on his tummy. Hang in there girl! Kim