Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
I keep telling myself if it was something serious it would happen all the time, not come and go like this. His vet asked if I thought it was to do with stress??? I don't think so.
His base food is always the same. Either venison or possum, weekly tripe and Thursday is fish night, he eats some raw and some cooked and loves it. and I mix in some dry. It was natural type biscuits with no grains (ziwi brand). But I thought that made BMs worse after a while so I swapped back to GI, then he got the itch which I thought may have been due to GI so swapped back to ziwi. But diarrhea came back. So he is off that again and back to GI!! Itch pretty much gone, but now diarrhea is back. He will only have it a couple of times real loose, but not to watery stage, then it slowly comes right. He can vomit with it, usually as precursor to the diarrhea. I notice his breath goes bad too, he seems more tired too when he has it. Never goes off his food, has not lost any weight. Though his weight regularly fluctuates half a kilo. Has had this on and off for nearly two years, but more frequent lately. Sometime the motions will have mucous around it, not mixed in, never any blood. Gawd what a gross discussion haha. Be good to speak with vet again and focus on this, we were so excited about his BP and proteinuria settling this kinda got pushed to the back. We have IMS visit in two weeks so can speak with her about it too.
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
I would be inclined to think it was something in one of those foods. So hard to know what to feed them if they become sensitive
Hoping the vet has some ideas! I am ok with dog poop discussions same cant be said for humans :eek:
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
I am not so sure about the diet as he had this prior to even going on these foods. We had swapped to this food at recommendation of vet, the meat is natural with no additives and it has a good name here. It is fresh meat frozen in cubes so I just defrost a chunk every day. His preop scan did show this:
The mucosal layer of the duodenum contains a few, linear hyperechogenicities which are perpendicular to the luminal surface. Impression: Duodenal mucosal striations. Lymphangectasia is considered.
Also The gallbladder contains a moderate volume of unorganised echogenic debris, and is located to the left of midline.
Those things were not so much of a worry when we were dealing with the pheo!! Obviously need to look at it more closely now.
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
Because you mentioned his breath was stinky when he had belly ache I always have found in the past that its related to the food, if I give chicken to Boyce he gets stinky breath and looser poops. As we know all doggies are different.
Wish they could write that stuff in English, will have to google to work out what it means
I must write this report. No more avoiding. Have sweet dreams and I will catch you later
Big hug, bum scratches to Flynny kins
Mel
Xxxxxxx
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
Yep, bedtime here. Always nice to chat Mel, don't work too hard!! Nighty nite all xx
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
The probiotics can take a few weeks to kick in and not all work for each dog. They usually recommend giving it 3-4 weeks before trying another. Sometimes you have to play with the dose.
Now Flynny, be a good boy and give Mom a break, no more hiding poos in the bush;)
We always have a challenge when our weather truns nice. Everyone here uses pesticide on their lawns so we have to be so careful with Zoe. That and she has a love of crab apples and our village has crab apple trees planted along all the streets. We dont have sidewalks so Zoe loves to smell and sniff everyone's mail box posts and scour the culverts for crab apples:rolleyes::rolleyes: we are about fifteen minutes north of downtown Milwaukee so we are not really in the country but it sure feels like Little House on the Prairie
Hope his tummy settles down. How are Mum and Dad?
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
Yep, I reckon Leslie's "Poop Patrol" t-shirts could be a winner! All I can say, if he keeps on getting these weekly runs, teach him to "Present". I always know when Fraser has a bout of the runs as I end up having to clean the carpets again (He likes to "wipe" - yes disgusting but Yay for the Vax/Bissell) so I have taught him to come and "Present" his bum to me. Then he gets a wipe down with some toilet paper, a quick wash and off he goes.
Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? :D
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
Hi
He is perky as anything tonight! Formed poop this morning, but covered in mucous. Have been doing a bit of reading on colitis/IBD and his symptoms are somewhat inconsistent, how unsurprising with Flynn :confused:. Vomiting and his general unwellness associated with upper GI problems, but mucous in the stool usually seen with lower GI issues and in that case they do not usually vomit or appear sick. Seems he may have both! Typical, nothing is easy with this boy!
I am going to get another poop spec when he has diarrhea, I am armed with a specimen jar now. Then worm him again. Keep him on the Losec and probiotic and wait for it to settle down, might add fish oil too as that was recommended in a few articles I read tonight. Iit is just weird how it comes and goes so much. He is a stressy dog, tremours etc so maybe that does play a part. Hopefully with BP down now he will be calmer :)
Mel, he had problems with bad breath and I thought it was chicken associated too so he has not had that in ages. Low fat diets are the go, he is on that now with the venison at vet recommendations but that alone has not stopped it.
Had to laugh tonight, when I picked him up at Mum and Dads, they had dinner ready so I had some there too, curried sausages and rice. Dad finished his and went to put the plate down for Flynn to lick... eeek, I leapt up and took it away and Flynn gave me the stink eye for stealing his prize! Got stink eye from Dad too, he always says dogs have a cast iron stomach and can eat anything and he thinks I am mean to the poor little dog!!! Ha, I don't think curry is good for a dog with a troublesome tummy Daddyo!
Anyway, parents seem pretty good Addy, thanks for asking. Dad been out playing in his snooker comp today and Mum had a card game with her club, they do keep themselves busy! We are pretty organic at both houses, Mum won't let Dad spray anything and I don't use it here either. So don't think that too much of a problem. But he is probably exposed to it a little on his walks.
Ewww I do not know about that "present" Naomi, sounds pretty gross haha. So far, I have only had to do a little clean up a couple of times as seems he takes care of it himself! But I am impressed with your dog training skills :D
Right, I am going to be in bed before 11pm tonight, that is 5 mins away :D:D So hope everyone has a good day xxxx
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
Hey Trish
Thanks for your reply!That cost has my blood boil too!-If it were expensive to begin with,well okay,but to jack up the price to the point where it may be inaccessible to some pups who need it,well,thats just disgusting!!
Ewww...upset stomach and curry is giving me an upset stomach just thinking about it!They mean well of course!Glad he had a good night tonight.I laughed about "present".Very infrequently,Fella would have a llittle bit of poop hanging from his butt.I'd try to reach and just grab it and he would get so pissed,like "DO NOT GO THERE",he would make me laugh,we would have to fight about it,but mom always won!:D.
Have a great sleep and nice talking with you!
Re: Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy, 3rd Dec 2012 for Pheochromocytoma
Yep, those poop patrol t-shirts would be a winner I bet.
When Molly has the runs, I say Poopy Butt and she knows she has to get it cleaned. That usually means I just pick her up and throw her bum under some warm water and wash it off. Other wise, she'd be scooting to get it off too.
I agree Naomi, those Bissels are life savers with animals!
Hopefully Flynns tummy will calm down. Poor guy, hiding in the bushes for a poop. Life is tough eh. The risk of a vet visit is just too much, so mom can't see. LOL
Have a good day
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin