Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
So the ALT is actually going up and the ALP down. Did the vet say why he thinks this might be happening? You said something about the lysodren maybe having an affect on the liver. I wonder if the others who have used lysodren long term have seen the same thing.
Did the vet make any sort of recommendation about how to get the ALT down? Are any of the other liver values up too?
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
i have been flipping through my notes.....i know i read something about increase of one with decrease of another.
how is this evening going? how you doing? sending you love, hugs and prayers.....you and squirt are cared about and loved so very much.
have you thought about using a baby type harness to carry squirt in so you can carry that way? or use baby stroller when needing to walk? I even have a double jogging stroller. LOL! I use it with my clients when they have 1 or more little dogs and they want to be out and about but side walks are to hot to walk on i push them in stroller and they LOVE it!!!! and then i have basket like thing to carry tiny ones in that goes around my neck and waist. helps the back and neck and arms out ALOT as opposed to bending, lifting carrying. reversing a back pack....carrying it on the front is good too.
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
Thanks for the suggestions! :) I've been looking for a second hand stroller for them all but Squirt has decided lately that she will stand every time we ride in the truck...which is NOT good for the legs. I don't know why, if this is easier on her, less painful, or what, but I can just see those pins in her legs bending or breaking - and that would be it. :( So I'm not sure she would lay or sit in a stroller either.
Doc is hoping it was the Metacam and Proin causing the liver enzyme elevations. I'm sure the Lyso does impact the liver as it is one of the filtering organs that handle toxins....which drugs are. But pain meds like NSAIDS are especially hard on the liver. He told me the Proin can also be harsh on the liver so we have stopped that for now and when, if, we go back to it, she will take the lowest effective dose like every third day or fourth day, etc. Pain, well I guess I'm going to have to harden my heart and realize pain isn't going to kill her but treating it sure might. Still working on an herbal protocol but getting nutrients in is paramount at the moment - med will be added after that is secure.
I tried a new trick this morning with her food...from the very first when I started cooking for her, she did not want it mushed, like canned food consistency. She wanted chunks of food and that is what she has gotten for years. So this morning I put her food in a mini-chopper and blended it well. Nope, refused it. So I added some kibble and stirred that in well - she ate it! She can crunch kibble on both sides of her mouth so I don't think the teeth are involved. And it seems she can physically handle the kibble better than the soft food for some reason. Which brings me back to the tongue - it seems to have lost a bit of coordination. :confused: I've had to cut most of her beard off because it is getting so nasty when she tries to eat the cooked food now. She is drinking a bit more normally, more water goes in her than was before but it still gets on the floor, walls and her or anyone near her when she drinks.
There is no doubt in my mind that her home cooked food has played a huge role in her generally good health over the last 5 years but at this point, if kibble is what she wants and will eat, then that is what she will get. Which will present a challenge with getting meds in her but I will figure that out as well one way or the other. We will take each day as it comes, tackling issues the best we can, with the goal of keeping her as comfortable and as happy as possible.
I decided something last nite. The decision was made a while back not to put her through heroic measures should the need arise - it would be too much to ask of her. So each nite I am going to tell her how grateful I am for every day that she has been with me; and every morning tell her how grateful I am that we will start yet another day together. Anything she wants that is in my power to give, she will have. She has had so many restrictions for so long; it's time to relax those restrictions if that will result in joy for her Soul.
Bless you all and all our babies here.
Leslie and Squirt
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
Leslie you bring tears to my eyes when you talk to Squirt. I am with you on the heroic measures which is mostly for us the ones that love them so. I have always said I hope the Lord takes them when it is time and I do not have to put them down, but give me the strength to do what I have to do like so many on this forum have had tp do. Kiss that sweet Squirt for me this morning. Love, JoAnne
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
My heart goes out to you, Leslie. We seem to be almost on parallel lines in a way so I can totally relate. Zoe stands in the car so car rides are few, I also wanted to get her a stroller but you are right, they will probably want to stand in it. Zoe’s beard is a mess, everything sticks so to it, we keep cutting and cutting.
Sending you lots of love and hugs. Give Squirt extra kisses for me, okay?
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
Leslie,
I haven't had a chance to catch up on the site in awhile. I am so sorry you & Squirt have been going thru some hard times.
I hope things are getting better. I am keeping you two in my thoughts & prayers.
hugs..
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
Leslie, bless you and Squirty and Trink and Brick.
I totally agree with your decision made last night, and realize what a bittersweet time this is for you. I hope you know how many hearts and arms are reaching out to you, just as you have been here for us all. We are here, and here we will stay.
If she'll accept them ;), please give Squirt some extra cuddles for me. And even if she doesn't want the cuddles, tell her she is precious and loved. Although, with you for her mother, she already knows this and feels this every single moment.
Sending many hugs to you, Leslie. Today and everyday.
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
Leslie, I'm so sorry to hear Squirt is having problems. I really am. I hope and pray that things get better for her. You have been so helpful with all your knowledge and suggestions. They are appreciated so much.
I have a question. Please don't take it the wrong way. I must think differently from others and maybe you can help me understand. When you said about not putting her through heroic measures, how does anyone know what is an heroic measure? How can anyone be sure if doing something will or will not help? Like with the radiation everyone said about not putting Scoop through that. They say radiation doesn't hurt except maybe a "sunburn" in that area. How do you know something will or won't help unless you try it? I felt if something (God forbid) would have happened, is it going to make a difference? He's doomed from that horrible tumor anyway. The way things are going it probably won't be too much longer so why not try. Everyone has their own opinion and that's fine. It just hurt seeing that everyone seemed to agree with the doctor's decision to not do it. Am I wrong or selfish or a bad mom to Scoop for wanting to do this or whatever I can? I guess I don't understand why something can't help him.
I'm sorry to bring this up on your thread but when I read what you wrote it just hit me hard. I am having such a hard time. Thanks for listening.
Administrative Note from Marianne: I have made a copy of this reply and transferred it to Vicki's thread regarding Scoop. For anyone who wishes to talk with Vicki about her situation with Scoop, please reply to her directly there: http://www.k9cushings.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4574 .
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
Leslie, you are just the best mom ever for Squirt. :) HUGS! Whatever the future holds, I know that Squirt will be happy just being with you for every moment of it and may there be many many moments ahead. :)
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
Re: Squirt - Atypical; melatonin, lignans and Lysodren maintenance
oh Leslie, my heart is breaking for you with all the stuff going on with Squirt, just when you think you know what they like for food, everything changes, just so Squirt eats right? When I'm positive, everyday is a good day, especially if your fur-baby is stable. When they are not feeling good, thats when we panic and worry and stress, and we start to think about whats best for our babies...This is so hard, but you are doing a great job with Squirt, so hang in there and remember we are all here for you!!! We are sending healing hugs to Squirt and encouraging hugs to you!! Prayers too!