Zoe By My Side- Our Journey with Cushings

Dear Addy
Try to take care of yourself while all this is going on, even if it is for a few minutes just to breath.
Hugs Sonja and Apollo

Came back from IMS. She wanted to start Zoe on lower dose than 15mgs because she is highly sensitive to drugs and her intestinal tract may get upset. We likely need a higher dose to control her Cushings but wants to give her body chance to adjust.

Dechra (per Dr. Allen) and UC Davis protocol would be 10mgs for Zoe so I agreed to her starting dose of 10mgs SID. First pill is Saturday. She wants to do stim June 13th. Told her Dr. Peterson's instructions. She said she would call him if I wanted but she did not want to wait 2 weeks to check Zoe. Wants to check in 7-10 days and wants to do stim. I said I have no problem for her to do it her way. She is the one who is here with Zoe and has been treating her. Zoe's weight at vet was 18 pounds.

I have to stop the melatonin and lignans for now as we introduce Vetoryl. I forgot to ask Dr. Peterson that. She does not want her on them to start treatment.

I am very concerned stopping the melatonin will give me bad poops.

I was not expecting that. :eek::eek: Now I am stopping something and starting something new and I won't know cause and affect. It took me over 6 weeks to wean her of Shen Calmer. The melatonin originally gave her firm stool.:confused::confused::(:(

Not sure what to do about the melatonin and lignans but she insisted they be stopped for now. INSERT HUGH SIGH ICON HERE.

Splitting headache Addy

Hi Addy,

When Corky started taking Trilo, his IMS had me give him 5mg of Pepcid AC once a day so his stomach wouldn't get upset. He had his first stim done on the 10th day.

I'm keeping everything crossed and am sending positive thoughts that Zoe does well with the treatment.

Hang in there my friend.

Thank you Terri,

Hubby just made me promise to stop about the melatonin. He agrees with IMS to stop for now so she can see how new drug affects Zoe.

I'm having a hard time keeping my mouth shut but a promise is a promise. I will try it their way for a start;);)

I am crossing my fingers too because of that subject I am not allowed to talk about:mad::mad::D:p:p:rolleyes::(:eek::eek:

At least I did not have to deal with the compounding decision;)

Also I don't have a signed rabies waiver:mad::mad:

Ah well, Saturday is right around the corner.

Thanks for wishing us luck dear friend and I hope my nephew's UTI is better.

Love,
Addy

WOW!!! I need to catch MY breath! :eek:
Addy, Addy-you are okay. :) Zoe is well cared for. :) You are doing everything you can. That's all any of us can do.
I remember my mind feeling like it was swimming when I first joined this forum. I just kept asking questions and going back to the doc with any suggestions that seemed to make sense.
This, unfortunately, is such a gray area. It's not like taking a blood test, identifying the issue and being able to take antibiotics to knock it out. :(
If I had to go down this path again with another dog, I am sure I would feel exactly as you are feeling. My experience with Palmer would give me a little more confidence.....but I think it would be an entire relearning process. :(:(
If you get yourself all wound up, Zoe will sense it. It's amazing how they know. You want to take what steps you can, keep as informed as you can and then "let go." It will work out as it is supposed to. That may sound hollow, but I really believe that. We make the best decisions we can with the information we have at the time. That's all we can do....plus kiss, love, hug our little ones.
(((((((HHHUUGG)))))))
Susan

Dear Addy
The fact you are starting so low is good. Once you know Zoe can tolerate you can restart the melatonin with the vet's permission.
Apollo is now on 10mg. Trilostane and has been on 10mg. of Hmrlignan , and 3mg of Melatonin for 2 weeks now, but I have not seen any change. I will post on my thread.
Post every day for our support. Remember when I started Apollo, I posted everyday for support and to conquer my fears.
Just remember you got Corkster and Apollo in your concern , both on Trilostane.
Keep us posted.
hugs Sonja and Apollo

Hi Addy,

I'm really sorry that you are still on that roller coaster ride. Do you have whiplash yet?

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Originally Posted by addy

Came back from IMS. She wanted to start Zoe on lower dose than 15mgs because she is highly sensitive to drugs and her intestinal tract may get upset. We likely need a higher dose to control her Cushings but wants to give her body chance to adjust.

The more conservative with a dog like Zoe, the better and from what we've seen around here, Zoe could stabilize on 10mg or less a day or she could end up needing a dose several times higher. Time will tell.

Dechra (per Dr. Allen) and UC Davis protocol would be 10mgs for Zoe so I agreed to her starting dose of 10mgs SID. First pill is Saturday. She wants to do stim June 13th. Told her Dr. Peterson's instructions. She said she would call him if I wanted but she did not want to wait 2 weeks to check Zoe. Wants to check in 7-10 days and wants to do stim. I said I have no problem for her to do it her way. She is the one who is here with Zoe and has been treating her. Zoe's weight at vet was 18 pounds.

I think Dr. Peterson's instructions make absolute sense but I am one of those creatures of habit who doesn't like change so I personally feel more secure having the results of an acth stim test to look at.

I have to stop the melatonin and lignans for now as we introduce Vetoryl. I forgot to ask Dr. Peterson that. She does not want her on them to start treatment.

I don't think Dr. Peterson is convinced that high intermediate hormones cause a problem so I will be interested to hear what he has to say about melatonin and lignans.


I am very concerned stopping the melatonin will give me bad poops.

I didn't catch this earlier today but I see now that "you" are antipating bad poops for yourself from the stress of taking Zoe off of melatonin. After Rene's hilarious story, this sent me over the edge again. :D:p:D Sorry to laugh at your expense but you have to admit that you made a funny.


I was not expecting that. :eek::eek: Now I am stopping something and starting something new and I won't know cause and affect. It took me over 6 weeks to wean her of Shen Calmer. The melatonin originally gave her firm stool.:confused::confused::(:(

Not sure what to do about the melatonin and lignans but she insisted they be stopped for now. INSERT HUGH SIGH ICON HERE.

Have you tried meditation or perhaps some quaaludes. :p

Splitting headache Addy

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Oh stop it:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Do I sound that bad????:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I sound worse than I feel I think. I'm like a dog with a bone, when i get something in my head I cant let go:o:o:o

I'm over it already. i have to be over it or hubby will divorce me;)

Love ya,
Addy

Mornin' Addy,

If it helps, I'm nervous with you! TWO changes at once! Stopping something Zoe has adjusted to and starting something entirely new. I would be following Trink around with towels, baby wipes and tears, blathering like an idiot. :p Cat is working with me to develop a more balanced menu for her and I am nervous just thinking about it. :o We can sure worry ourselves into a state, huh? :o:D

This is going to go just fine, I bet. In a few months, you will look back on these days and wonder why you were so worried. ;) Everything is going to work just like it should and Zoe will be a new pup in no time. I am holding to this thought!

Keep your chin up!
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

PS. Slippery elm works for humans, too! ;):p

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If it helps, I'm nervous with you! TWO changes at once!

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Thanks Leslie, I knew you would understand that thing I am not supposed to talk about;):rolleyes::(

I get over it for an hour and it comes back:eek::eek::eek:

She had a soft poo this morning:eek: (probably from stress at vets, she was not a happy camper)

I gave her 1.5 mgs melatonin instead of 3mgs before work, I'll see how she does. I can't just stop it cold turkey:eek::eek::eek:

I can't delay for a week and detox her cause IMS is going out of town to a conference so our window was small.:(:(:(

Hubby called me at work and left message to call. I freaked out thinking it was an emergency and that he had gone home and she had soft serve stool all over kitchen:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Turns out he was trying to get her Vetoryl prescription filled.:D:D

I need a case of CHOCOVINE and I need it NOW:p:p:p

Maybe puppy pictures will work. I'll go check out Ella.

Love ya,
Addy