Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Hi Everyone:
Tipper was a very restless again this morning. She is sleeping on a king sized pillow a lot and I am wondering if she is having something inside that has shifted and made her uncomfortable?? Tomorrow is vet day for her Adequan shot, this should be good since he never ever called Dechra. I am not going to say a word, I want him to speak first. I am still not feeling well and I made a huge pan of stuffed baby peppers, and will give some to my elderly neighbors. I got anemail from the people that have Grace. They sent me pictures and I balled my eyes out when I saw them. They said she is kind of sticking to one room where they put her stuff, and comes out when she feels like it. I was sad to hear that as I hope she is not missing me and depressed. I paid a huge amount of attention to her. These people are nice people, but not obsessed with their pets like me, so I don't think they think it is any big deal, like I would. God help me for saying this,but I wish I had never taken her away. I hope she does not think I did not want her. I have to take Elvis Thursday nite for his nails and beak trim and it is supposed to be below 0 so I will have to make sure he is really covered up good. Blessings
Patti

This response to her new surroundings is not surprising. She has been through so much in such a short time...and no telling how she was treated before she came to you. She will learn her new home and family in her own time and way. She will find comfort there and begin to bloom into the Grace she always should have been. Because of you, she now knows what it is to be cared for and loved; she will reach out to her new family for the same. Hold tight to the fact that this couple took steps to help welcome her into their home and hearts before she arrived. You might share with them the things you did with her, the things you learned she likes, the things they can now start to do that will provide Grace with a sense of continuity.

I know how hard this can be. I still miss many of my fosters deeply and some I wish I had not let go of simply because I came to love them so deeply. But each one is in a great home with a family that loves them as much or more than I. I continue to believe this is what you have done for Grace - given her a gift she would never have had without you.

Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

Leslie:
I did already tell them what I know she likes etc. I told them everything I could to make her transition easy. I was a little upset that they said they were trying out different canned foods with her. I had her on Fromm's low cal and she had already lost about 1/2 pound, I stressed this to them that to get and stay healthy she needs a good diet, and control of it. The canned food in the pet stores I would not feed to anything, it is garbage and sprayed with fat.She still needs to lose a pound more. Maine Coons are predisposed to cardiomyopathy and she must get that weight down. I guess I am not liking someone making bad decisions that will affect her life, after I told them the vet stressed weight loss to me. I told her the day I saved her on the way home that I would make sure she lived a good life from then on. I know they mean well, but this is hard after what Ihave been thru with her. Hope you are feeling better. I know all about that prednisone making your heart pound at nite. Not a good feeling! Blessings
Patti

Patti,

Awww, Tipper isn't sleeping again. Poo. I'm glad that she has her appointment tomorrow. Hoping that helps. Hugs.


I agree with your concern over changing Grace's food. I wonder what their reasoning is? Is the From expensive and hard to get?

It's not unusual for a cat to be wary in a new setting. Our Annabelle Lee sat on top of a shoe rack and hissed and made all kinds of racket. She sounded downright evil!

Seaghost found an opening underneath the bathtub and hid there for almost two weeks straight.

Gracie was a kitten when we adopted her and she adjusted immediately.

Seaghost is still skittish but the other two flop themselves wherever they want.

Valerie:
Tipper is sleeping, it's just in the early morning hours like 4 to 6am she starts moving all over the bed every few seconds in another position. It is so hard watching this as I know she is not resting well. I think the people are changing food with Grace because they think she is not getting enough to eat. Grace would eat 24/7 if you let her.I think she was so unhappy in her previous home that she ate and ate to compensate for being unhappy, and bored. I hope they do not ruin the diet I had her on, and it just makes me upset that there is nothing I can do to stop it, this is why I wish I still had her. I knew above all she was safe and loved, and she did too. Blessings
Patti

Patti,

ah, early morning jitters for Tipper.
I hope that the higher nighttime dose resolves this.

Wow! I sure hope that these people know enough to watch Grace's weight.
I get to mad at dad when he deviates from the plan because he's a sucker for Daisy's "poor me" stare.

If you have recommendations in writing from the vet, I would email them to the couple.

Get some rest dear.

patti, i think you must give grace some more time to adjust. i have had many rescue cats and the all need some/a long time to feel at home in their new place.
they choose a safe spot and explore their new world from there. that is a real cat thing. one step at a time.
you did it with graces interest at heart. she could not stay forever in that one room on her own. that would not be fair.
luckily they stay in touch with you and even send pictures.
hopefully the canned food is just a little extra treat and they will watch her weight too. she will get more exercise too if she has a whole house of her own now.
i used to recue ponies, dogs, cats, rodents and even fish. and replacing them was difficult sometimes, but i knew i could not keep them all.
hope you will get some rest now and good luck at the vet tomorrow!

Hi Everyone:
Well the vet seemed to have difficulty knowing how to approach me. He stayed on the back for the longest time. Finally he said hi and began telling me about this big endocrinology conference he went to, acting like it was on Tipper's behalf that he went!! That really got me boiling as he never even mentioned her dosage and calling Dechra, he acted like it was non existent. I said very little as I was in explosion mode. Finally he said how are things on her dosage? I said well I had to change it as she was low. He just asked what I changed it to and wrote it down??? I kept my mouth shut and made no comments. He said how is Tipper on the thyroid meds? I said much better, and asked if he got the fax from Jean Dodds and he said yes. I said well???? He said you were right, got up and left the room and came back with Tipper's Adequan shot. He is a real piece of work. Tipper's bp was down better today, she was still moving around in the bed this morning, and panting this morning. We will see what the ACTH says next week. I feel like her pre may be OK but that her post is higher than desireable for her, that is why the symptoms. I feel a little better today, but not great. Very cold today with snow today, and the roads were very slick. We are to be going to 3 degrees tonite and more snow in the morning. We do not have to go out until Tipper's laser therapy Tuesday so we are OK. Tipper is really depressed from not walking enough, and is letting me know about it. I am dreading the storms spring brings though. I wish we could just have storms with no thunder and all would be fine in Tippers world. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
Tipper had her Adequan shot today and he put it in her left leg, the one she tore the ACL in. Well she is limping. Don't know what that is about, but do know her muscle is wasted away more in this hind leg. The people that have Gracie sent me pictures of her with her new cat tree looking out the front window. I miss her so when I see the pictures I just want to reach out and touch her again. I am going to lay down and rest with Tipper, I just don't feel great. Blessings
Patti

Patti,
Yes, definitely lay down with tipper and remember to take care of yourself. You have been running on reserves of energy that you just don't have for much too long.
Oh that wasn't a good idea to put a needle into that leg. See if it is better tomorrow, and in the meantime don't let her jump around on that leg.

Hope you feel better.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin

i hope you and tipper had a nice nap and are feeling a bit better now.
hope her leg will be fine tomorrow.
hope there is no flu wandering in your area.
sleep well tonight.

Hi Everyone:
I am feeling a bit better today. Tipper is still limping on that leg, but not as much.I wish I would have been quicker yesterday, but he already had the needle in before I could stop him. It is very cold here, and going to be worse tomorrow. We are expecting a big storm on the weekend. In have to take Elvis out tonite for his trim. I am going to have to make sure the car is warm, and he is covered very, well as the Dr.does wet them a bit. In the course of cleaning the room where Grace was I researched and found a wonderful cleaner from England. It is called Milton. You do not even have to rinse it off of things. It sterilizes things! You can get it on Amazon. They use it to sterilize baby things. It works on most surfaces also. In the mean time I am using diluted clorox. I will go over everything again once it comes to ensure everything is germ free. I will then wait 2 months before allowing any animals in there. They should all be safe then. Tipper is beyond stir crazy from this weather. I am going to have to research something holistic to use for spring when the storms start. She will never make it thru another season of thunder etc.The vet told me yesterday no tranquil!izers for Tipper, especially with her breathing problems, as I have known it is a bad solution, but really need something to get her thru this. I need to find something that absolutely works. I am afraid of her blood pressure making bleeders in her eyes again. We have enough issues to deal with already. I am really missing sweet Grace today. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
About an hour ago I looked outside and it was a complete white out. It has been coming down like crazy since then. I bet we have 5 inches of new snow. This was not even mentioned in the forecast! Then we have a storm coming this weekend. I hope the roads are clear when I have to take Elvis at 4:30. I do not need any problems with him in the car. I am going to watch the weather at noon.The wind has really started to blow really bad too. Oh well another nice day here! I really need to clean this house and for once do not have the energy.I found some calming collars online does anyone have any experience with them?l also saw some made with herbs in. If you have used either please let me know if they work or not, as I am tired of wasting money. Toby stuck his head down in a pile of snow before I could stop him, I hope he does not start with ear problems like Tipper does when she does that. Blessings
Patti

Patti--I just hung up the phone with my friend from Pittsburgh and while we were talking she said it was snowing like crazy..a white out! Then I just logged on and read the same exact thing from you. Small world!!
It's cold here today but not terrible yet..the crazy cold like you have is coming this way tonight and for the weekend, and another storm due here Sunday night into Monday.
Trixie was demanding this morning and pulled me all the way to the park. I had the foresight to make her wear a fleece, good thing we were out for over an hour. Glad we got in a good walk because with the forecast temps in the single digits starting tomorrow we will not be on any long walks...probably for a few days now.
Hope Tipper's leg is doing okay and be safe out in that snow when you take Elvis, that is if you end up going!

Barbara

Patti I have used the DAP calming collars on Woody, the rescue recommend them to help settle them into new home, it worked for Woody he wore them on and off for years I also used the DAP room spray, it worked well for car journeys just spray in room and on dogs bed and it worked as well. Maybe something you could look into

Oh no Patti!
Be safe today and if you have to reschedule Elvis' nail trim, please do so.
I hope that we don't get this storm. Some snow has melted, but most of it is still around. They said that we've had seven feet so far. Crazy!

Glad Tipper's leg is better. Maybe Toby won't have an ear problem. I imagined him sticking his head in the snow. We had a solid black miniature poodle when I was younger. Somewhere there is a picture taken after she stuck her head in the snow. So much stuck to her fur that she looked headless :-)

Hi Everyone:
I have the car in the garage as we are having 50 mph winds. I got out a big garbage bag to put over top of Elvis's carrier, then a heavy towel. I will take it off. In the car and house when I get there. I just don't want the wind blowing that cold air on him, and plastic will stop it. It snowed quite a bit, I have no idea what the roads are like. I have a sitter for Tipper, and I am ready to go.I am reading a very interesting book by Martin Goldstein on healing your pet holistically. I found some interesting information I will post when not on this tablet that may be helpful to some of us. Elvis is tearing through his cage like he is mad, he cannot have any food 4 hours before he gets put out, and he wants food right now and he is not happy. He is yelling come on, come on, it is to funny. Whenever I want him to do something, I always say come on Elvis so he is copying me. The dogs do not even want outside today it is so nasty. With luck the traveling Dr. will be on time and we can get home quickly. Blessings
Patti

Patti,
I can just imagine Elvis freaking out.
Be safe! Let us know when you come back home please.

geez...please be careful out there! Judi posted a pic on FB of a 96 car pileup on I-400 from this storm. Let us hear from you the second you are back home, 'k?

Ick, horrid weather out there from the sounds of it. Be careful in those white outs, pull over if needed. We haven't had any here today, but in the snow belt area the highway is now closed in both directions due to a 96 car pile up during a sudden white out this morning. Yikes! So stay safe!

Wind is blowing fierce here too and bloody cold. I don't think we're suppose to get snow here, but you never know sometimes.

I haven't used any of those things with molly and I told you about the one I read at the vets office. I guess it's not working though? The pheromone spray.

Got to run, I'm sleepy, as just took some cold sinus for my ear to see if it will help but that stuff just makes me sleepy. Trying to get through post before I go crash for a bit.

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

hi patti, i hope you had a safe ride to the vet and back. that weather sounds terrible! last winter we had tons of snow, this winter not one snowflake [yet].
if you can't find anything natural which works for tipper, maybe a low dose of tranquilizers just to prevent her from panicking. high bp and a panick attack does sound worse than a mild sedation.
maybe a high dose of melatonine?
lots of cotton wool in her ears, and a bone to chew on?
but first get rid of all the snow.

Hi Everyone:
We are home and Tipper is demanding my attention. I will post tomorrow. The Dr.was late due to the weather.

Hi Everyone:
Last nite was awful. For the most part the roads were passable. But there is a road we had to use that has flat farm land on each side of it. The wind in that area made 6 inch deep drifts across the road, making it really scary to drive thru. It did not help any that I had an crazy driver behind me wanting to pass me on it doing about 60 and started fish tailing after passing me. When we got there the Dr. Was not there he was 45 minutes late because of the weather. There were many birds waiting to get done. One was a screamer that was really in getting Elvis nervous. Thank God I am always the first appointment, and we got out of there asap. Tipper was crying when I got home. She does not like me away from her since she got sick and I am with her 24/7. She never ever cried before, I know it scares her as she knows when something happens to her I always fix it. I am on the tablet that causes a lot of misspelled words so bare with me. These are the important things I found from the book I read that the Dr.wrote on natural healing

Ar Ease by Crystal Star he uses for inflammatiion
Superoxide Dismutase is a natural enzyme made by the cells he uses this to fight free radicals, it comes in tablet or liquid for bladder infections he uses lots of vitamin C
Pancreatic issues he uses 100mg vitamin e every day. He said dogs can have an attack by eating any part of an dead animal outside.
Phosphatidyl serine is the most interestingly to me. It is used to suppress cortisol out put, and received very good reviews.
He uses ozonated olive oil for any ear infections, it has no side effects and is a natural antibiotic killing bacteria.
Heartsease/Hawthorn capsules by Crystal Star were used for the heart. One reviewer who used this said they no longer use Analipril and lasix.
He uses vitamin k instead of lasix
For liver issues he uses milk thistle in the morning and Tang Kuei in the evening one tablet of each.
For inflammatory bowel he uses Acetylator from Vetri Science

I am not promoting you use any of these without researching them. Some have no side effects, and a lot had good reviews. You can purchase the majority on Amazon and many other sources. Please do not just buy these without thoroughly researching them, but some appear to be benign like the olive oil and could be quite helpful.
Tipper is getting annoyed with me on this tablet so I will post anything else later.Blessings
Patti

Wow Patti,

That is alot of interesting information. I am also curious about the stuff to lower Cortisol.
I'm glad that you're home safe!

Squirt took the PS-100 (Phosphatidylserine) for a couple of years. Not to help with cortisol but because I read an article in her IMS's office about the positive effects it had been shown for brain health. She stayed on it until her seizure in March then was off for a while and back on until a couple of months ago when I stopped everything. Some has been added back but not the PS-100 - I'm not sure of the taste and do not want to put her off her feed again.

I wish I could say I could tell a difference in her cognition on it and off of it but I can't. The dementia seems to have started while she was taking it. :(

Interesting stuff there Patti. Knowledge is always helpful.
What is it with crazy drivers in bad weather. Glad you made it there and back okay.

I can understand Tipper not wanting you to be away from her. Molly is less than thrilled any time I leave too since I was staying home with her every day while her back was hurt. Now she acts miffed when I leave. LOL she'll adapt I'm sure.

Crazy winter for sure. They say it'll be a late spring where we are too. Hopefully that isn't true for you too.

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
Tipper had a decent day, we played ball and I attempted to do another hair cut on her. Had to feed her treats so when she chewed I knew she could not bite me, and would snip while she ate. Now I probably have to starve her tomorrow!! She is still a work in progress, but I got at the feet this time and she never lets me touch those. She is choppy for now until we finish, it will take 2 weeks probably, but she already looks better. She was starting to look ragged. I am not feeling well today so I am going to lay down early with the dogs. You know what they say about sleeping with the dogs! Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti,
Thanks for the Vitamin E info. I read the whole page about diet for pancreatitis. I am going to bring Trixie over to the vet to have this wart..I hope it's a wart, checked out and I will discuss the whole triglyceride, pancreatic stuff with him in person. I will not just give any of it on my own. I'm so afraid of fats/oils even if they are the healthy ones. Now I find myself worried about this growth on her back paw. It doesn't bother her a bit but it must get checked out. I read that vitamin e or castor oil put on topically is good for "old dog warts"

I was doing the same thing as you today!! The hospital shaved Trixie's front legs and belly, but the rest of her is so overgrown..it's not the best look! I do not want to take Trixie to the groomer right now. It's too cold for her to get shaved down and I want her front legs to grow in a little first too. She needed some of that overgrown fur trimmed so I was working on her. The face came out great, got the schnauzer eyebrows trimmed down and the beard. The rest of the job is harder, I tried to clean up the back legs, too much fur there...anyway she looks a little choppy, but it's ok, at least a slight improvement for now.
Glad Tipper had a good day! You were brave for taking Elvis yesterday! Glad you made it to and from safely!

Barbara

Hi Everyone:
Tipper was hungry last nite even after the treats I gave her to cut her hair! Then early this morning she started moving around the bed again. I think the cortisol is rising on this split dosage, and she does not do well when it is higher. I guess we are waiting for the latest storm to hit us. It is to get to 40 today so Tipper will be able to walk if it does. Funny how a walk changes her attitude. I feel sorry she has been in the house so much she is not used to that and is really bored. Her leg really came along good with that laser therapy. Thank God we have that here as there is not too much around us. God I hate this tablet, it goes back and corrects words, and then they are spelled wrong!! It is easier for me to use when she is in my room resting. I have not allowed any animals in the office as I read corona can live in carpet for 2 months. It does not cross species, and Tipper would never get it, but could transfer it on her paws to other rooms,so I am not taking any chances. Otherwise I would have sent Grace away for nothing. So I must use the tablet for now as Tipper cries and barks if I go in the office and shut the door. I am going to work on her hair a little more today. Blessings
Patti

Patti, I bet you can turn off the "auto-correct" on your tablet. I hate that function, too. On my iPad, I can turn it off by going to "Settings," then "General," and then "Keyboard." I'll bet all tablets have a similar page of options. ;)

Marianne:
You are always saving me from some problem. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate it, thank you. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
This is a great day for my Tipper, she walked twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is so happy it is like she is smiling. She and Toby had a great time. It was about 40 so we took advantage of it. It is so nice to see my girl happy, it's been a long time. Blessings
Patti

i am very tired today, so i wish everyone a quiet sunday and some nice walks with the doggies.

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Hi Everyone:
This is a great day for my Tipper, she walked twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is so happy it is like she is smiling. She and Toby had a great time. It was about 40 so we took advantage of it. It is so nice to see my girl happy, it's been a long time. Blessings
Patti

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That's great! Pattie, So glad Tipper got her walks :) Nothing makes me smile more inside than seeing a happy pup!

So glad your pups got outside, and twice! Maybe you'll get some more outside time in tomorrow before the storm blows in. Hope that after the exercise and fresh air that Tipper has a good night's sleep!!

Barbara

So glad that your furlets finally got to stretch their legs Patti!

Hi Everyone:
There is nothing better than a happy Cush dog. Tipper slept OK with some episodes early on. She is miffed this morning however, as she thought she would be walking and it is too cold. I hope it warms up some before the storm and we can go. She is back to being bored. She is drinking more, and wanting food so I am wondering what kind of numbers we will see on the ACTH next week?? She just had one two weeks ago, I feel sorry for her having to go thru this again, and then if the dosage has to be changed another one in 2 weeks. This is so hard on her, I often question if it is worth it?? Not to mention the cost. Who can afford 1000.00 and up a month on vet bills? I need a haircut really bad, but forget that as I will be squeezing by this month because of all her bills. So she is worth it though, but it has been very hard coming up with this money. All of this exhausted my savings long ago. The constant need for dosage tweaks has made this really expensive, she will be on her 15th ACTH I think. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
I just realized this is the first winter Tipper has not been out in her snowsuit. She had so many ups and downs and not feeling wells that I was afraid to attempt it. I may put it on her in the house as I have no pictures of her in it. Toby has not had his on either.I am going back to my cleaning, I am having a break with the doggies, and playing ball. Poor Delora has been sick the last two days and told me she feel real weak in her legs and is having trouble walking. I think she is going down hill and I hope she makes it until summer. I give her all my papers and magazines so she has something to do, as she is very sedentary. God Bless her, she has it bad. Blessings
Patti

hopefully tippers dosage is ok, so she doesn't need another test. i can imagine that it is very stressful for her. [and for your poor wallet!]
is she on 25 mg now?
hope you were able to walk this afternoon with the dogs.
we had a cold day today.

Hi Everyone:
Tipper is looking out of the window and very unhappy. She wants out of this house in the worst way. She had a lot of her episodes last nite, when falling asleep and during the nite. She seems to have so much more pep now that her thyroid meds have kicked in. I am still shipping the hair here and there when she will let me. It is not a good sign when your dog shows it teeth when seeing scissors! Well the storm missed us for once. We still have below zero temperatures though.I am making some chili today for myself and the two elderly neighbors. I am praying for some good numbers on Tipper's stim on Wednesday. Blessings
Patti