new from europe (arthritis and vetoryl?) - Ian, Flynn and Enya have passed

I forgot to get urine from Tipper this morning so that means another trip to the vet this week for me at least. I am getting my oldest cat an early detection profile, he gets one every 6 months to make sure there is nothing starting to go wrong and that we catch whatever early. Also since I read that cats that come from breeders can have exposure to corona virus, I want to check and see if he has had exposure because then Lucky the other cat would have it form him and Grace could stay. Just a shot in the dark at saving her form leaving I guess, but who knows what will happen??? Blessings
Patti

i can only tell you that i had one cat with corona virus which developed into FIP. she died suddenly at age 10 because of internal bleeding. my other cat never showed any symptoms at all. he died at the age of 18.
my vet said it had all to do with resistance to virusis. some cats are in better shape to fight them then others.
so friday you will know if you can keep grace yourself?
ian is doing ok, his hotspot is healing fine. with the hotspot and the shedding, he is not looking like mr. world.
it is cold outside with - temperatures right now, but the weather forecast says it will be +5 this weekend again. no real winter yet.

Well I guess Friday will tell the tale if the other two were exposed to it. I am still looking for a place for Grace, but have found no one suitable yet. She deserves a forever home and I am running into flippers. They are people that come and get free pets and sell them for money, and I will not let that happen to her. Tipper slept last nite with some seizure activity but not too much. She was exhausted from at the vets. Glad Ian's hot spot seems to be doing well, I hope he has no other problems as this vet care is too expensive anymore. Our weather is calm this morning after all the wind gusts at 50 miles an hour yesterday. It actually blew the snow into big snowballs all over the ground. Blessings
Patti

there always will be people who want to make money by selling animals to laboratories or kennels. hope it is possible for you to keep the good and bad people apart.
i always brought the pups i sold to their new homes so i was able to see where the new owners were living. they had visited them several times before at my place though. maybe you can tell the people that want grace that you will bring her over, so you can check her new place. not good-no grace....
i did the same with the ponies i used to sell. i always wanted to know where they were staying after selling them.
glad to hear that the weather is a little better.
the weather is still cold [freezing], so no long walks today for ian. saturday it will be +5 again.
sleep well!

Well I must get an ad together for Grace as much as it pains me. I will weed out the bad people. This just kills me, but cannot jeopardize my cats lives. I will have to thoroughly clean out this room and disinfect it as I read corona can live in carpet for 2 months. I will clean and keep out both catsfo4 months. Tipper was ansy at laser. It seems that she did not want her back touched so I am suspect of it hurting with the weight pulling down from no muscle to hold up the belly. I am glad to hear Ian is still well. Can you get a look at the spot lately? Hope it has healed. Our weather was good this morning and Tipper had a ball walking she was so happy. Blessings
Patti

hi patti, ian's hotspot is healing fine, there are already new hairs growing on the spot. yesterday i tried to stop giving the painkillers, but he was stiff again and walked slowly. today on half the dosage he was fine again. he apparently needs them. so be it.
ian also has a sore back at the same spot as tipper i think. he does not want to be touched there either. positive is that his belly is shrinking since he is on 30 mg of vetoryl. and he is loosing weight.
his appetite is back to normal [picky] and so is his drinking pattern.
he still looks like an old doggie though [which he is of course] but so far so good.
hope the weather stays ok, so you and tipper can walk again. they really need it to be happy!
more work for you after grace has left. is there anyone who can do the heavy duty things for you? or maybe rent a carpet cleaning machine. hope someone will give grace a good home soon.

Great that Ian's spot is healing. I guess he will have to stay on half a dose of the pain meds to get around if he gets stiff. The weather is holding up here and Tipper has walked again this morning, she loves it. She has a lot of seizure activity last nite, I kept waking her to stop it. It still scares me. I am waiting to hear back from the neurologist as I sent him a progress report. Still looking for someone for Grace I hope she gets a new home soon as I am becoming attached to her. Blessings
Patti

so the seizure pills did nothing for tipper? or maybe worked a little bit? i am curious what the neurologist will say about it.
glad you and tipper had a chance to walk again. they need it to stay happy. do you walk in the neighbourhood or is there a park nearby?
my christmas cards are still hanging on the wall, so i will have something to do tomorrow. i fell behind with everything.
ian does not want his fish oil pill today, maybe the old peanutbutter trick will work. he believes i want to poison him i think.
last walk for the doggies, it is dry outside..............so hurry.

I think the pills may have seemed to help a little, I have not heard from the neurologist yet though. We walk in the neighborhood, but it is really cold this morning so we may be able to go this afternoon depending on the temperature. Tipper was restless again last nite. I cannot wait to get this thyroid testing over with. Did you notice your dog drinking and peeing more on the thyroid meds? Hoping Ian is still doing well today. Blessings
Patti

i can not say if flynn was drinking or peeing more on the thyroid pills, since he was already drinking more because of the cushing going on, which we did not know at that moment.
a month later there was cc coming up, so the vet suspected cushing and the thyroid problem being a result of this disease. which was correct..
the pills did work fine for him though.
ian is doing fine, and i hope he will doing so for a long time. it will give me a break after the rollercoaster with both flynn and ian. i am pretty tired right now!
i hope the trip and visit to the vet for you and tipper will be ok.
i will read it in tippers thread.

Bad nite last nite. Tipper had really bad gastro upset at 330am so we cannot have the tests. Please read my post. Blessings
Patti

i have been reading your posts and i hope you will have tippers thyroid results soon.
good to hear that chance is doing fine though! must be a relief.
i think i am having/getting the flu. everything is hurting.
ian is asking for his pain pill, he likes the taste of it. he also wants a walk in the moonshine...............and it is cold outside.
he needs to pee i think.
i hope you are having a good night sleep for a change....................[are you listening tipper?]

I hope you are not getting the flu. You do not need that. Tipped is feeling lousy today. We are resting now. I am beat. How long can Ian be on the pain pills? I have not heard back from the cat rescue yet. I m getting disgusted with trying to find her a decent home. Hope Tipper sleeps tonite as she needs it and so do I. We are waiting on 10 inches of snow tonite! More coming on the weekend. Do you have anything to take for the flu? I hope you do not get it.Blessings
Patti

Eeek, hope you aren't getting the flu. It's just nasty this year. :(

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

ouch patti, more bad weather coming your way. and more snow. you all must be so tired of it. i'am dizzy, sore throat, runny nose, fleece blanket....brrrr! i take Paracetamol (translation Amerikaans Engels: acetaminophen)
i fear that ian needs this painkillers for the rest of his life. without it he walks very stiff. the vet calls it a maintenance dosage. maybe during the spring/summer when the temp. are rising, he can do without them.
sharlene, how are you and your husband doing? and molly?
i am going to bed now, hope i can work tomorrow. i need the money.
sleep well everybody!

nighty night! Sleep well and get better!
hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

Yes we are bombed with snow and more is coming down steadily as we speak. We do not really have traveling vets. There is just one vet from Illinois that travels the US and does only birds. He has certain people houses that he holds the clinic in and you make and appointment and go there. It is 20.00 my regular vet charges 100 so it is a great savings and this Dr. is an avian specialist and my vet is not. Tipper was drinking a lot and up last nite moving around. I am hoping we get some thyroid meds for her.. Please read my post I am putting all the info on there. These pain meds that Ian is on, do they affect the kidneys long term? I am so sorry he cannot go without them. Maybe like you said when the weather gets warmer. I hope you are feeling better as it sounds like you are coming down with the flu. Are you able to stay home in bed for a while? Take care of yourself. Blessings
Patti

20 dollars instead of 100 sounds good! ian's painmeds are nsaids, so they can affect the kidney's. he actually ran since eating those pills. he gets 25 mg norocarp. maintenance dosage is 2 mg/kilo.
last time he was 14,5 kg, but he has lost weight since.
i am really struck with the flu, bbbeeehhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have to work, since i am my own boss and are on a low income. still have some vetbills from flynn and ian to pay.
but i do not have to work tomorrow afternoon. it is an old woman and i can not risk her getting the flu. she will pay me though because i am never ill and i often do extra duties for her.
patti, i am going to read tippers thread now, and then walk the dogs and try to sleep.
good night!

Oh fooey, sorry to hear that you go the flu after all. :(

Nice that your tomorrow patient will pay you anyhow. You're right, you can't risk her catching it. I hope that you can recover quickly. I had it this year and was sick for awhile, the fevers and coughing are the worse, and my husband got it and it went pneumonia, so take care of yourself.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin

hi sharlene, i feel lousy. i hope i do not get pneumonia. i had it before.
since i live on my own and always had dogs, someone has to walk them. in this case it is a plus that they are golden oldies and it is cold and wet outside.
just around the block and off to bed...

Please don't think I am harsh or trying to out do this vet as we have a long history of him being lazy and not doing his job and ignoring problems. I had to get into a verbal altercation with him when I told him Tipper had Cushings and he would not test her. Finally after me really getting on him he tested her and she did have it. You would have though he learned his lesson that I do not just thro ideas out against the wall and hope for something to stick. He has a history of avoiding problems which is not good. Things need to be dealt with before they escalate and cannot be helped. He is just a country vet that really knows very little about Cushings or and complications of it. We have gone round for round many times and every time I have been right so I do not trust him. I more or less use him for RX's and referrals and shots etc. I basically tell him what needs to be done as he is clueless. If I were back in Pittsburgh where I lived my whole life this would not be an issue, as the vets I have there are up to speed on things. All I can say is he better hope nothing happens to Tipper before this test from Michigan comes back. Tipper has been off and I know she is sick and he could care less that is what has turned me against him his cavalier attitude like she is replaceable. He is in this only for money and could care less about what happens to the animals. Yes there are vets here like that unfortunately. My other vets back home were never like this. I hope you are feeling better and this is really not going to turn into pneumonia, as you do not need that. I read an article where our dogs can get our flu so be careful of Ian. I hope he is still doing well. Blessings
Patti

it sounds like you will need another vet. this relationship does not sound ok. too much stress! i don't know if there is another clinic around?
vets learn a little about a lot in vet-school.
and if a disease does not come around in years, they have forgotten all about it. in that case, we do know more about the disease than they do. especially when on a forum like this.
i used to have a dog with epilepsy and the forum was of more use than the vet.
ian is doing ok, i forgot about his vetoryl [blurry flu head] but he knows what time it is and came to ask for it.
i have to buy a new bottle of omega 3 fish oil pills. my dogs don't like them and since they are pretty big, it is difficult to hide them in their food. they will spit them out grrr!
i don't think you can order thyroid pills from the internet can you?
p.s. what does RX mean? i read it in your post.

I really do need another vet. I have little time to look around and thoroughly check someone out, and do not want one worse that what I currently have. I have seen that happen on here. I am trying to deal more with my IMS and Cardiologist. I hope you start to feel better soon. That must be miserable having to walk dogs as sick as you are. Blessings
Patti

it is indeed hard to find a vet that is for sure better than this one.
well take your time and i hope you will find a vet whom you can trust.
i hope you will have a quiet weekend with your pets.
it has rained the whole day, but the doggies will have to p and p, so coat on hood on and off we go. well as long they are doing fine, i feel better myself.

I live out in the country so it is really hard to find a good vet here, most are just used to working on farm animals and you can't trust them as they know nothing of this disease. Sorry you are still under the weather. Hope your flu goes away soon so you do not miss too much work. Hope Ian is still doing well and able to walk good. Blessings
Patti

i live out in the country too and vets are working on cattle , horses, pigs etc. most of the time. a plus is that they are not very expensive.
my vet has experience at treatment of cushing in horses, ferrets and dogs. he is a no-nonsense person and i like that. he knows what i want and don't want.
we do have a Faculty of Veterinary Medicine 25 km from here, in case of an emergency.
luckily ian is doing fine. hope tipper will get better soon. are the thyroid results in yet?

I am so sorry you are still sick that is terrible when you have a job to go to and dogs to walk etc. I hope this goes a away and you get better soon, you have to be suffering along with this. I hope Ian continues to do well and you have him for a long time. Tipper is not well and I am at the vets again on Monday for fight number 500! I must do what I need to to help her. Blessings
Patti

Hope you get better soon. It certainly does make a real impact on the body.

hugs
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

hi patti and sharlene, it is a mean kind of flu indeed. how long did it take for you to get better sharlene?
walking in the rain and storm today....brrrr.
but all the harsh weather in your villages does not sound good either.
ian is doing fine, and i hope molly and tippers health will improve soon too! both of you will need some rest too.
in our next life will will only take care of stuffed animals..................

A couple weeks before I felt really myself. It was about the mid of the first week that I felt the worst and that lasted about 4 days. I never got it really bad in my chest, but I did have a fever for a few days off and on.

I hope yours clears up soon.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

that sounds very familiar with my experience with this type of flu.
a couple of weeks to go?........... nice!
there is almost a storm going on so i hope the dogs will do what they have to do very fast!
sleep well everyone.

No, you've already had one week right? So should be on the up swing soonish. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

yes, it is about 9 days now. i think i reached turning point today. i was able to taste part of my food today....not eating saw-dust anymore!

I am glad you are turning the corner with this. I felt bad you are alone and have to walk the dogs too. I have the same situation here. Had an exhausting day today and I am waiting to hear from Tipper's cardiologist. There are just so many problems adding up that it is hard to deal with all this. I am glad Ian is good as you don't need any additional problems either. Hope you are up and around soon. Blessings
Patti

hi patti, i hope you will hear from the specialist soon.
luckily ian is doing fine!
he is shedding like crazy, but overall shedding, no signs of cc or bad skin.
his former hotspot is covered with lots of new hair already. i hope his coat will come back. does tipper still have a full coat?
we had an almost dry day today, but i suppose your weather is still very cold with snow coming down?
i hope you will sleep well tonight.

That is wonderful new that Ian has hair on the hot spot! I bet you are happy with that and he is too as no more looking at it and scaring him. Tipper is still acting rather funny and her pre number is low again so I am going to call Dechra today. Hope you are good as new after that flu. Blessings
Patti

It's about time that you're getting some relief. The flu is miserable and each year it seems to be more resistant to antibiotics.

Try to rest so that you don't have a relapse. Hugs.

Fur growth is good! Yippeeee!

Sounds like Ian is doing good, getting hair back and that you are on the road to recovery too. :) Hopefully by the end of this week, (the tiredness is hard to get over) you'll be back to feeling more like yourself.
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Hope you are back to feeling like yourself. Tipper had a decent note, but lots of seizures and one time shook her whole body. It is so scary to watch and I keep waking her to stop it. I am resting today, not feeling real great. Blessings
Patti

i was not on the forum yesterday because i am still a bit miserable from the flu and very tired also. frontal sinus is hurting.
no snow here but lots of wind and rain.[almost a storm]. in the afternoon it was sunny for a while, so i thought i should make for a long walk with the dogs. but because of the flu i only managed to walk for just half an hour.
it is so difficult to hide ian's vetoryl so he will eat it. since the cushing is under control, he is back to being a picky eater.
he is suspicious of every food i try to offer him.
any suggestions?
patti, i hope tipper will be her old self soon. and i hope you will have some quiet days and rest well.