new from europe (arthritis and vetoryl?) - Ian, Flynn and Enya have passed

I am so glad he is using his leg a little. Do you think heat on it may ease the pain like a hot water bottle? I hope he can start to get around and maybe get it used to bearing his weight again. I can't believe what they want to ship something to you, My God! Blessings
Patti

hello patti, he does not want to be touched there , because of the sore wrist, so i won't. maybe later on when it isn't as painful anymore. his wrist is much bigger because of the inflammation and very stiff.
yes it will cost 60 dollars to ship a lightweight envelope with pills to europe. it sounds ridiculous. i read that inside the usa it only costs 8 dollars. cushing dogs are "'an expensive hobby"'
hope you and tipper have a quiet night.....

flynn is using his leg a little bit more when walking. if he wants to go any faster he walks on 3 legs. it slowly improves.
are there more dogs on this forum with an arthritis outburst because of using vetoryl.
before using it, he was a retired working dog, but moved pretty well.

Yes we've had a lot of dogs that have arthritis issues when on vetroyl. The arthritis was there, and the cortisol at higher levels covered it up, when the cortisol drops, any arthritic problems show themselves.
An xray if there is any question will show the arthritis usually. I know that my molly has some already and will have more as she gets older and her cortisol will always need to be a little bit higher for that reason.
She isn't on vetroyl yet as we haven't gotten any clear answers in the past few years. We just monitor her. If she ever displays the typical cushings symptoms though, it will be a fine line to walk as to how much to give her.
Others have gone through the same things. Working dogs, often have arthritis as they get older. It's hard on the joints.

I'm glad to hear that Flynn is using the leg a bit more though, that is a good sign.

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

thank you sharlene for the answer. hopfully your molly does not need vetoryl at all. when she reacts as my flynn, that will be bad for her. it went downhill so fast, it scared me. yes, the arthritis was there before, but it did not show then. he has to be taken off the vetoryl, because of this. the painkillers are not good for his liver, but he needs them very much right now. he is now on forthyron [2x200mg] again for his thyroid problem. he still has lots of energy and his wrist is thinner now. i have to wait and see how this will work out.

It is often, day by day and you just gauge how they are doing. Perhaps a very low dosage of vetroyl would work? It's a fine balance that you need to find.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

he was only on 2 mg/kg. and it did not do much. i will see first how this will work out with this arthritis attack. i'm afraid to use the vetoryl on him ever again. he did better without it.
my other dog is doing very well on such a low dose. hugh difference in just 4 weeks time.
like you said, every dog is different and balancing and patience [baby steps] are the right words.

Oh no I was thinking perhaps a much lower dose, but I don't know if that would help with the other symptoms and allow the arthritis to still be in control.
For instance, my molly weighs 19 lbs, and the specialist talked about only doing 5mg, while my vet spoke of 30mg.
For now nothing, but we'll see what happens going forward. I'm more concerned that for molly it might be liver rather than cushings. No way to know yet and all we can do is keep an eye on things.

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

flynn is walking a lot better today. hope it will progress this way.
so, your molly's condition is a riddle to everyone? it indeed sounds like liverproblems. is she feeling fine? i'm afraid to put flynn on vetoryl again. maybe a very low dose like you said? first he has to get over his arthritis attack before i change anything. it is nice we can help each other here on this forum with advice and tips.

oh yay, glad Flynn is walking better today. yes, I'd be scared too about going back on vetroyl.

Yep, Molly feels and acts fine. It would a 100 percent better if we didn't know there was something going on with her. Just monitor is all we can do.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin