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Oh Patti, So sorry about Grace, I was hoping she would pose no risk to your other cats. What a shame. I will hope a good and loving home can be found for her.
As for the thyroid..the are things that differ from Cushings, low blood pressure and slow heart rate are common in low thyroid but usually the opposite in Cushings. I know you worry Tipper has a rapid heart rate and high blood pressure, so you may want to watch that the medication doesn't increase these.
Barbara
Hi Everyone:
My heart is heavy as I post today. I was up most of the nite thinking about poor Grace. I can't help but feel an overwhelming sadness for her. I was going to try a different rescue today and when we got up it was snowing so we won't be doing this until the snow is done. Tipper had some of her episodes last nite and was all around the bed moving all nite long every few minutes. After discussing this with Glynda she thinks it may be Tipper's cortisol rising at nite. Before when she was on a split dose I always gave her the higher portion in the morning. I am thinking she should get the higher portion at nite instead. I have taken her off the Vetoryl as I am afraid of that pre number and my vet never called me about new dosing from Dechra. Tipper's safety is paramount here so I need to know she will be safe until I get some good solid answers. Glynda is trying to get me some help with this too. I am going to call Dechra and tell them my vet never called me and ask for help. I just can't believe I pay him all this money, he knows she is low and he just goes off until next week and does not bother about it. I am thinking after discussing Tipper in length with Glynda that Tipper is having muscle tremors from the Vetoryl. Now that does not mean for I am suggesting it is bad and for anyone not to use it, as Tipper needs it to live so I will have to deal with the side effects. I am hoping to get things straightened out with Jean Dodds today as they emailed me and the site was not working properly and they lost all my info on Tipper so I must do it all over. That is ok as I need the help for her. So I will not be posting on your threads until later as I must do this while Tipper is resting. Blessings
Patti
Oh Patti, I am so sorry that you are having such a tough time!
I do have a special request, though, and that is for you and Glynda to please carry on at least some portion of your conversations about Tipper here as public replies. That way, you will not have to summarize them all after-the-fact and we can follow your decisions as you are actively making them. I am starting to hesitate to make suggestions here, for instance, because I don't know whether it's something you two have already discussed and discarded. :o
Marianne
Marianne:
I can't post all the conversation with Glynda as we talked on the phone. I will however try to catch everyone up so they understand what is going on. I know I did not want to deal with another variable as Tipper is on thyroid meds and has a low pre number, isn't feeling well and is exhibiting thyroid symptoms. Glynda and I went over all of Tipper's thyroid. Glynda said her numbers looked good to her, but wants me to use Jean Dodds if I can to get her expert opinion. Tipper has been running low on her T4 for the last 12 blood panels and now on this one did go low. As I was noticing these symptoms in here that is why I had the thyroid panel done as I have been saying she has been off and I know it, she is not feeling well. I am surmising that she is right on the fence of starting to go down hill, but I know her so well I caught the symptoms in an early stage. I told Glynda I read Jean Dodds ahd said that some dogs at a slight low need some help. Tipper has shown Cushings symptoms that are really strong. So I am thinking that is why she is exhibiting these thyroid symptoms early - she is just like that with illnesses. You see it right away. So I made an application to Jean Dodds and will wait to see what her expert opinion is. I am doing this to keep Tipper safe. in all the craziness of her ups and downs her safety is paramount to me. Knowing that I feel this way Glynda old me if it were her dog she would stop the Vetoryl too. I was ready to put it back in the cupboard the other day and then gave it to her, but felt uneasy. I have not heard from my vet which is no surprise. Glynda is trying to help me on her end by getting answers to why Tipper is running low on her pre number. So until I get some answers from someone like and endocrinologist or Dechra that is dealing with this and knows precisely what to do I am not dosing her. Her dosage has been changed and the poor thing has had over 13 ACTH's which have cost fortune, and look at the agony she has endured. It makes sense to me that I have taken her to every specialist under the sun in an effort to make sure she has the best care, why would I then throw caution to the wind with these meds and chance something happening to her especially with the vet I have?? I will tell everyone what is going on when I have my consult with Jean Dodds. I have asked her to consult only with me because of my vet situation. I want to make sure Tipper is on the right drug, and the right dosage for her thyroid. This has seemed to be helping her. Also her dosage with Vetoryl must be looked at due to the fact that Glynda feels her cortisol must be going higher at nite and that is what all the moving about the bed is from. So if she is put on a split dose does Dechra think the higher portion of it should be at nite, as the even split has not worked for her. I am trying to keep her post lower to stop her symptoms with out lowering her pre number. I did advise jean Dodds that Tipper does have both kinds of tumors and the results of her latest stim. She may have some suggestion on that you never know. Thank God for this forum and all of your help. Tipper never has a straight forward case of anything so doing anything with her requires a lot of looking into. Glynda has been a God send to give me her valuable time to help Tipper. I need her input as she has very valuable experience that I do not. Ultimately this is my decision I know, but to have expert guidance is like gold. We are waiting to see who gets back to us first with some concrete answers. I am calling Dechra when I am done here and telling them the situation with my vet and asking for help, as Tipper's symptoms come back quick, and strong and I do not want her going thru that more than necessary. I feel there is a key to keeping Tipper's number in balance and I need one of these experts to help me with it, as I know all this up and down in her numbers cannot be good for her. Blessings
Patti
I have not posted anything here yet because there was nothing new to report. I'm waiting to see if Dr. Peterson will respond to my question regarding Tipper's low basal cortisol. I have no answer for Patti but if Tipper were my dog, I'd be very concerned about continuing treatment until I got some reassurance from somebody like Dechra, Dr. Peterson or Dr. Bruyette. It's a 50/50 proposition with Dr. Peterson when you post on his blogs but I'm keeping my fingers crossed and if he does respond, I'll immediately post his response. I did recommend that Patti contact the person she has a good relationship at Dechra and tell her she's very concerned about continuing to dose Tipper and that her vet is not responding to her. Hopefully that might get Dechra to give her some guidance. I also told her that she shouldn't screw around with dosing until she gets some guidance from an experienced professional.
Regarding the low basal and possible shortcomings of ACTH testing for monitoring trilo dosing, here's one of the comments I was looking for earlier:
I'm not sure I understand the point of the comment, but is it perhaps that the stimulated (post) result is not necessarily an accurate reflection of the actual ongoing adrenal reserve of a dog on trilo (the "real" daily reserve may be lower) and that's why Dechra is becoming more concerned about lower basals even though the "post" seems OK. I dunno -- maybe someone else here can explain what the comment means.Quote:
• Monitoring of trilostane therapy with the ACTH stimulation test may be difficult because ACTH can override the competitive inhibition of steroidogenesis.
One last question for you, Patti, and then I'll check out until you gather your additional info. Did your vet give you a written endocrinological interpretation from Michigan State that accompanied the raw test results? I surely hope he requested that, although it might have involved an extra charge.
That may be the case, Marianne. I know Zoe's IMS was very concerned Zoe did not have enough adrenal reserve after I told her how Zoe reacted after her ER visit and then when we got her blunt ACTH test results back after lowering her dose she was really concerned about it.
First off before I forget, no the vet never got one Marianne. I am in the process of getting all my info on Tipper to Dr. Dodds so I have limited time here. The other very important thing to note is I just had very lengthy conversation with Dechra. Before I explain that just know they told me my vet never called them!! So you know I am not happy right now, but it is par for the course with him. After them reviewing extensive notes on Tipper and all the dose changes we gave made and the problems that have occurred after stopping her Vetoryl this is what was decided between all of us. First they do not want her Vetoryl stopped because the last time her clinical symptoms were so quick and so bad on return they do not want her cortisol climbing that high. They want me to dose her with one morning 20mg dose until I am able to get the 5mg from Diamondback. When I get that I am to give her 15 in the morning and 10 at nite. that way if she is on 20 now her cortisol should not drop, but will not escalate out of control either. That way it does not have to be knocked down too far when she starts on a smaller total dose than what caused all this(28). When we have taken her off in the past and her cortisol shot up too high and then she was put on a lower dose because the pre was low ,it was not enough to bring her post number down to where she was not having terrible clinicals. So when I get the 5mg she will get 15 in the morning and 10 at nite and an ACTH in 2 weeks as my stupid vet did not know to do. I told them she cannot sleep at nite and wouldn't the bigger dose be better at nite and they said no because you must do the ACTH after the higher dose and that would mean she would have to have an ACTH at 10 or 11 at nite and my vet is never going to do that! If this does not work we may do 12/12 split with the 2 mg being trilostane. When Tipper got all 30mg in the morning this not sleeping all nite was not a problem, but that can no longer be because of her pre number. I told Dechra about my vet and they did not comment on him other than to say he never called. He is really a terrible person to do this to Tipper. It will all come back to him sometime. They were not going to help me until I practically begged and said my vet isn't interested in this and I have no other help from an expert and this is a tricky situation. They assured me she is ok on the 20 mg for now. It is ok to dose her on 20 and when the 5mg comes to start the very next day on 15/10. They said the 20 will keep her in a good place to stave off the symptoms as she does get crazy, and will probably really have a hard time at nite until the other mg comes. This is the only combo we have not tried. I told her I do not want to subject Tipper to all these ACTH tests as she has really had enough and we need to get this right so she stops suffering. I want to know what everyone thinks of this especially Marianne and Glynda as you two have been helping me with this problem. I will take Jean Dodds word as gospel when she tells me what is going on and follow what she tells me on the thyroid. A neighbor came and asked me for a picture and description of Grace to take to work, she has cats and many people she works with love them and maybe she could get Grace a home. So I made a flyer and description of her and what is expected of the person who wants to give her a home, I want to put it all right out front so there is no misunderstanding that only the right person will get her and what I require to relinquish her. I am hoping this is not too convoluted and I explained it well enough. Please let me know what you think I value all you input to help my girl. Blessings
Patti
Hey Patti, I totally defer to Dechra at this point and will keep my fingers crossed that this combo will finally be the right one for Tipper.
All fingers crossed for Grace, too.
P.S. Did you tell Dechra that you have started the thyroid med? Also, I am somewhat confused -- was Tipper's Michigan State profile truly below normal range, or just in the lower part of normal?
Marianne
Her test from the vet was below normal. She was low normal on the Michigan test. This is where Dr. Dodds says some of these dogs need help in this range.Glynda said maybe she likes to see them come up in the middle . I would think that especially since Tipper has so many symptoms this may be true, we will see soon. Did what Dechra said to do makes sense to you? Blessings
Patti
Hi Everyone:
I forgot with all this going on that Dr. Bruyette answered my email very oddly this time. All he said was Tipper seems to be doing well, and that is good??????? I am shocked he never answered any question I asked. Maybe he was busy and will elaborate later. He did thank me for referring great people to him. Blessings
Patti
Hi Everyone:
I just sent Dr. Dodds more info on Tipper. I am hoping to get a consultation with her maybe next week or so, don't know how busy she is right now. I wanted to wish everyone a Happy Valentines Day and your babies one too. It would seem after researching on Dr. Dodds site the attack Tipper did on Toby could be part of this problem, and when she tried to bite me, as she has never been like that before and it was one of the many symptoms Tipper has. I am playing with grace and just want to cry when I look at her. Blessings
Patti
Sending you and whole patti gang a great big Happy Valentines Day.
Yes, aggression and personality changes can be a big part of thyroid issues.
Hang in there! hugs,
Sharlene and mollymuffin
I just wanted to add one thing. I have been saying in my post about Tipper whining and she has never done that in her life. Well it is one of the symptoms also, so I think I can see where this is going. Blessings
Patti
i wish you lots of strenght with all this research about tipper''s tests etc.
lots of work it seems.
my ian had the muscle tremors before the vetoryl and it stopped completely after the first pill, so the other way around.
flynn's behavior mellowed after his thyroid got low, so the opposite of tippers.
every dog reacts in a different way symptom-wise so it seems.
i have to go and walk the dogs in the storm.
hope the weather is improving in your area.
sleep well!
Patti,
as you have explained everything, it makes perfect sense to me. Especially since Daisy also does better with the dosage split and given twice a day.
I'm so glad that Dechra is working with you! I wouldn't give your vet another dime. I'm sure that there are others who would be willing to work with Dechra and the other specialists to learn more about Cushings and low thyroid problems.
Crossing my fingers that your friend can find Grace a happy home!
It sounds like things are starting to look up finally!!!!
Hi Everyone:
I woke up to an email from Jean Dodds. Thank God there are some people that take their responsibility serious, I am so thankful to her. I explained my vet situation to her and that is why she helped me so quickly. She is a wonderful human being and I am so grateful for her help. She did exactly what she said unlike some others I hired who took the money and ran and did nothing. So here is the report:
Because Tipper is a Jack Russell Terrier they need more thyroid to maintain their basal metabolic demand. Tipper is on the correct medicine and the correct dose. She would like to see Tipper's levels boosted to the upper half of the mid range. She also felt this because of Tipper's symptoms which are extensive.
She suggested that if I wanted to not go to the Vetoryl since Tipper is having problems to got o the Melatonin and Lignans.
So I know Tipper so well I am fortunate that I was able to realize this when it first started because it can cause paralysis of the larynx and Tipper does have tracheal issues!! I did right by my girl and I am happy for it.
I am wanting to know what you all think of this now that the expert has spoken? What do you think of the alternative treatment? Do you think Tipper's symptoms are too strong to control with this natural method? I thank God I was able to see something wrong with her and get on this right away. I am also glad she is on the correct dose that my vet fought me about to double. I am so glad I never listen to him. No one knows these dogs like their moms! I have noticed Tipper seems better and acting better, not laying around wanting to play and not as moody and depressed. This was the best money besides the ultra sound that I have spent to help her. Now I just have to figure out how to pay the credit card bill! Oh where is my money tree? This is a happy day for me as I knew my dog was off and now that is one less worry put to rest. Now I must concentrate on the dosing and get it right. Her 5 mg will be here probably by Wednesday. She is still moving all around at nite so I know her cortisol is rising then. Thank God when I had my vet call in the Rx's I made him give me refills as where would I be now? I would have no 5mg refill and him no where to be found. I wondered why all of a sudden Tipper starting whining. She has never been a whiner and that struck me as really odd. Well the lady took Grace's flyer to work today and I am hoping someone will rise to the challenge and want her. She has lost about a half a pound since I am controlling her food. So she is doing well that way. Delora goes to the Dr. for an exam on Tuesday as she is still bleeding after 3 months. I made her promise to talk to the Dr. herself and write questions down and have him answer them in writing as she does not hear well. I hope she gets a miracle the poor thing. Thank You all for your help in advance. I am going to email Glynda so she looks at my thread to see the Dr. has gotten back to me. Blessings
Patti
I am so glad you heard from Dr. Dodd. The only comment I can make is that for me, it is hard to evaluate what is cause and affect when I do two things at once to Zoe. Is there any reason her thyroid wouold make her restless at night or any other supplement or medication she may be on? Since some of the low thyroid problems can mimic Cushings, would it be better to give yourself a chance to see her behavior now since she has started the thyroid meds?
I know you said Dechra did not want her off her Vetoryl. I am just commenting on the change to twice day dosing which I thought was the plan. But that is about the only thought I would have Patti.
Patti, if Tipper were my dog, I would not switch to the melatonin and lignans. Our experience here is that they will not control excessive cortisol to the extent required by Tipper. As far as the Vetoryl dosing, I truly do defer to Dechra's recommendations at this point.
As for the thyroid dosing, I think you will just have to see whether Tipper seems better or worse as time goes on. One drawback to Dr. Dodds' differential norms/ranges based on individual breed are that they reflect her personal, unpublished database. Other researchers have not been given the opportunity to evaluate her data. From what I've read on the internet, some pet owners feel that their dogs have improved using her recommendations; others do not. But that is standard for most treatments, after all. So I think that for Tipper, you will just have to see how she does.
I do want to warn you that too much thyroid supplementation can cause some of the very symptoms you are hoping to correct: excessive hunger, thirst, urination, restlessness, rapid heartbeat, etc. So to give your annoying vet a tiny bit of slack, I can see why he may have felt reluctant to start supplementation if Tipper's results still fell within the normal range on the Michigan State profile. But given the complexity of Tipper's situation, it is very unfortunate that he didn't request their written interpretation so you would have it to compare/combine with Dr. Dodd's assessment.
Since you have seen Tipper worsening, I surely understand why you are anxious to make some changes, though. So we'll all be anxious to see how she responds. As Addy warns, though, it may be hard to sort out the source of any improvement or worsening since you will be changing both the amount of the trilo and also the time of dosing alongside the thyroid supplementation. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you will only see improvement, and than we really won't care about the source anyway!
Thank you Addy and Marianne. To me the lignans did not sound good because of Tippers strong symptoms all the time. So I will stick with the Dechra plan. I know it will be hard telling what is what. Tipper is on such a low dose of thyroid meds that there has not been a difference in drinking and peeing with the exception of today as she is only getting 20mg vetoryl and I know that is why. She has been acting more alert and better the last three days than she has for 2 months now. Today she wanted to play and catch ball her favorite activity and she has not wanted to do that for a while so I know she is already feeling better. I am hopeful she continues to improve as it makes me worry less. I guess that is all of us can hope for is improvement and quality of life. Blessings
Patti
i am glad that tipper is feeling better today. how is her leg doing? one day it will be spring and you will be able to walk again. that will help her feeling better too i think.
i hope you will have a quiet sunday!
Hi Everyone:
Tipper is doing a lot better with her leg. She did walk just a small walk yesterday because it was too cold for her to be out. She is running and yes I hate to say it jumping again. I would have to hog tie her for the rest of her life and she is depressed enough being inside so I can no longer restrict her and the therapist said it is best to let her go. She is walking flat footed on the leg and that is a great improvement as when they tear that cruciate they walk on their toes. There is no doubt the laser therapy healed her, and were are so fortunate to have a good therapist too. Tipper had a lot of activity going on when she went to sleep last nite. I noticed when this first started it started with her rear leg. It progressed up her body to her eye twitching, not it is involving her mouth, her mouth is twitching and that almost woke her up. She slept ok but moved about most of the nite. She is drinking more water on the 20mg which I expected. She is doing much better with the thyroid meds, better attitude, and not nasty, seems to be feeling a lot better I can tell she is not acting sick and is up and not sleeping. So I will take those improvements. I was reading on some supplements for the heart, and for the muscle wasting. I will post them later when I have more time as I know the muscle wasting is worrying a lot of us. Most had very little side effects if any. I will clear them with Leslie though. The rescue emailed me about Grace again and told me they have someone to foster her. I asked if they person liked her would they be able to keep her. I will wait for the reply. Grace wants to play with all the toys I gave her as soon as I come in the room in the morning she is ready to play. god bless her sweet heart she is so great I am at a loss for words to describe it. This will be tough , but I have to suck it up and do it. This will be the first animal I have ever taken out of my house and given to someone and it is really bothering me. Tipper walked a small walk yesterday as it was too cold for her, but just the small walk lifted her spirits. Next week 40-50 degree temperatures and she will love that. I got an email that her 5mg was shipped so I am hoping it is here by Wednesday. I can tell her cortisol is rising just from the 2 days on the 20 mg as it is not enough to control her. At least she is not out of control though as that is what Dechra wanted. We shall see if this combo works. Blessings
Patti
Glad to hear that Tipper is doing better with her leg and her activity level too. Nice to see that come together. If only those night time tremors would end.
That is good that the rescue has found a foster at least until a good home can be found. I imagine you'll have to check out all the specifics for it to make sure it is a good fit for Grace.
Just a tad of snow here today, then bloody cold tonight and tomorrow night snows starts again and goes through tuesday I think. Horrid stuff. grrrr
hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin
Praying Tipper gets better.
Hugs Sonja and Angel Apollo
Thank You Sonja
Marianne, I wish that the tremors would go away to they are so hard to watch my girl doing that. Now it is even involving her mouth and I am hoping this does not get worse. I let Tipper out from behind her gate and put Toby behind the gate and Tipper went right in front of Toby grabbed Toby's new ball and she just ruined the heck out of it. As Toby protested she ruined it more, then she kind of looked up and I wear she smiled. She can't get out so she is being a little brat. So when I put her back behind the gate I gave Toby one of her toys and she is really miffed- and Tipper does not forget. Grace told me she wants to stay with me!. I am so weak when it comes to a furry critter. Blessings
Patti
Patti,
if there is a way that you can keep Grace and that she is happy with you, I hope that she can stay.
I'm so glad that Tipper is improving! Good for you giving Toby one of her toys in return. They have memories like an elephant :)
Could her thyroid have anything to do with the tremors? Maybe a combination of both?
valerie, i don't think grace can stay with patti, because this would mean living in that one room on her own forever. i don't think that would be fair to her. she will need a whole home for her alone. [a good home of course with the proper care]
glad that tipper is feeling better. and that the weather is improving, so tipper can have her much needed walks.
i have to walk the dogs before going to bed. it is 4 am now..............
I know, wishful thinking because I know that Patti has become so attached to her.
Hi Everyone:
Well Tipper did her usual activity last nite and it is really bothering me that it involves her mouth now. I am afraid of her biting her tongue. Valerie I did read where Dr. Dodds said that the thyroid can waste muscles etc. so maybe it is a combination. It has just progressed so much it is scary when you see your dog doing this. She lays up against me at nite and I can feel when it starts. She is doing well with her leg and seems better with the thyroid pills, more energy and happier. I am waiting for her 5mg Trilostane I hope it is not delayed because of the pending storm again. I need to get her dosage straightened out. Well the vets office has been open for a while now and no call from him still. Now I kind of wish I would have slapped him that day, maybe get some sense into him. The poor birds here arte having so much trouble getting food as the snow is so deep. I keep putting things out for them and it is gone as soon as it hits the snow as there is a flock that covers the food and eats it all immediately. I must concentrate on Grace this week as I am so weakening it is pathetic. Blessings
Patti
hi patti, overhere they do sell balls made of grease and birdseeds/peanuts in a net, and peanut-slings which you can hang e.g. into a tree or bushes. and more things like that. so the birds can find them even when there is a lot of snow on the ground. i also stick an apple on the end of a branch etc.
and no fights with your vet ! we do not want to have to visit you in jail! he is not worth it.....grrrrr!!
glad that tipper is feeling happier now. good night!
Hi Patti,
I'm not sure how it is where you are at, but here we'll get the snow and it will warm up too so maybe tipper will be able to get a walk in the snow this time. Cross fingers.
Did you hear back from the rescue about Grace?
My neighbor has a few different bird food things hanging from some trees in the back yard, maybe you could put a few of those up for the birds in the winter time?
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin
Hi Patti,
More snow due here too...but warming up out of the deep freeze at the end of the week...hopefully Tipper will be able to get some good outdoor time in if it gets warm enough.
Hoping Tipper is having a good night tonight, and the other fur kids too.
Barbara
Hi Sharlene and Barbara:
I never heard anything back from the rescue yet. Grace is sick of this room and after a month I do not blame her. My heart aches when I watch her, and how wonderful she is. We got bombed with snow, it is still going this morning and the wind is unreal. Hope all is going well with Trixie and that you found out about you salmon oil. Blessings
Patti
Hi Everyone;
Well Tipper had a pretty good nite. I can tell her hunger has escalated with being on only the 20mg Vetoryl. I am hoping her 5mg trilostane comes today. Other wise she is doing a lot better while on the Soloxine. So much more alert, and acting better. I take her to the vets for bp tomorrow and I am going early so I do not run into him as he has still never called me about Tipper's dosing. Why he would deliberately try to hurt her is unbelievable to me. WE really got the snow last nite, it is still coming down and the wind is relentless and strong. We are actually in a blizzard right now. When it warms up next week and rains then the problems will start with flooding as we have so many feet of snow on the ground. Nothing of Grace yet and I am not venturing out to take her anywhere until this is over. This has really put me in a precarious position, as I feel for her and want her to be happy. Blessings
Patti
Hey Patti... I do once in awhile get on here to catch up on things, but you know the reason why I mostly try to stay away.
I'm not a fan of cats, there are very few far and between that I take a liking too, but Grace sounds like one of the ones I'd love.
Sure wish I was in your area, or we could take pets into Canada from the States without so much paperwork... I'd take her in a heart beat.
Glad to hear Tipper is feeling much better, once you get the 5 mg you'll feel a bit better too.
Take care of yourself...
Hugs -
Hey Patti - so glad to hear Tipper had a good night.
I don't know how you all are getting all the snow.. I'm in Alaska and we are hardly getting any. This crazy weather!
Glad Tipper had a good night. That is excellent news.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin
sounds good that tipper had a good night! the weather does not sound good though! hope you will have an other good night sleep.
You should have a nice day after the blizzard, we are today. So hold on to that thought. I am so glad Tipper is feeling better.:):)
Hi Everyone:
We are late as I had Tipper in for Bp this morning and had to get a sitter and go to the grocery store. Tipper has a 150 bp today and that is high for her. I am wondering if she got wound up too much before we left home. If it is high again next week we have a problem that will have to be addressed. The vet never came out of his room when I was there this morning and it is just as well he did not. I am having a time with Grace not having anywhere to go and getting sick of this room too. I saved her and do not want to give her up to a less than ideal place, but it is getting much. Her kitty litter is making dust and that does not mix with computers etc. Tipper seems real keyed up today for some reason. Today is the first day of the split dose 15/10. She was panting a little. Maybe her cortisol is going up and that is making her feel bad. I know she needs an ACTH in 2 weeks will it make a difference if it is 1 day early? I need to schedule her thyroid draw for 30 days but if I can do them both at the same time it is less stress for her. Her thyroid will be due the time this ACTH is due. I know she is so sick of all these tests it is pathetic. She lost weight today yeahhhhhhhhh!!!
I need to get her settled into this new dosage and I pray it works for her. I am hoping it controls the cortisol at nite since that is what is probably making her move around the bed all nite long. We will see here in a few days I will be able to tell. It is snowing here again- I thought it was supposed to rain??? Just a lot of flakes nothing heavy. Tipper walked twice today and was so happy. I will try to post on your threads later I am beat and have to feed the cats. Blessings
Patti