Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

It sounds like the medication is helping Tipper at night and you are both getting some good sleep.

I hope that you are able to find Grace a good home. She will make someone a wonderful pet and I hope they love her and give her the best of everything.

Well, if Delora is going to be stubborn and not want to help herself, then there isn't much anyone can do, she probably wouldn't work with any social workers to help herself either. That is too bad, but in a way I understand it. After her husband died, I'm sure that she felt her son is all she has in way of family. A lot of elderly are not going to go against that even in their own best interest. I don't agree, it just makes me feel sad, but I do understand. :( :(

Hang in there and just try to relax and enjoy your own life for a bit.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Patti,
I'm so glad that Tipper is free of seizures!!!!
Hoping that someone kind will come through for Grace soon.

I have a rule, I help those who are making an effort to help themselves. I would still alert social services and tell them everything, including this medicine that her son got for her and what you've read about it. After this, focus on your own life and let Delora be. Her son can arrange everything from now on. I would still find a home for her cat though if the need arises.

I know that I sound harsh but I've been in your place. Nothing good came out of it, just more stress for me.

Xoxo

Hi Everyone:
Well no seizure activity last nite, but and that is a big but, I fell asleep early. I don't know if I am so tired I am missing this now or if the meds are working so I will keep my tired self up tonite to check out the situation as I need to know to report this to the Dr. if it is working or not. I pray it is and that I never have to see her do this again. It is heartbreaking to watch this. Tipper is wanting outside and acting up and being naughty. It is so frigid that is not even possible. I have a hard enough time carrying her to go potty. She wants to romp around and I understand that. I have to take Grace this morning and she is miffed at no food. If you would see the size of her you would understand. She put her paw under the door and started shaking the door like crazy the dogs went nuts. She wants her food and she is letting me know. I hope someone will give her a good home vet said you are paying for all her vet care and giving her away? I said yes, I can't afford it but she needs it. I thought he may said he would do it for free, but no chance. I said it is my little part in helping an animal have a better life on this earth. If everyone did a little it would make a big impact. Nothing was said after that. I am getting ready to take her. I will not allow my boys access to this room once she is gone for a month to make sure all germs are gone after I clean it up. I am just so sorry she is leaving I have grown very fond of her she is easy to love. The weather is horrible and we will have to go slow as I am sure the roads are icy. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
My vet just called me he is working on Grace. He said she is the most beautiful cat he has ever seen and so sweet he may have a home for her. I pray he does maybe he will give me a discount too. He is cleaning her teeth now, so pray for dear Grace that she has no more problems. I am still fretting over her, she is the nicest cat I have ever run into, what a pity people do not vaccinate and take care of these majestic animals these people make me sick literally. I just feel terrible that this happened to her. Blessings

Patti

That would be wonderful for Grace if the vet had a home for her!

Hi Everyone:
Grace is still at the vets. She had a molar with infection, and infection in her jaw too. Also he cleaned her eyes out, and her eyelids were full of lipids. He expressed them out. He said that is a first for any cat he has seen. She will need eye meds and antibiotics. The cause of the lipids is being too fat and a fatty diet.
Poor Grace she has had such a bad life. Thank God I can help her in some small way. It makes me sick the number of people who don't take care of their pets, and here we are doing everything we can to keep ours alive. It just makes no sense to me. Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti

Thank goodness Grace found you to help her does this mean you will still re-home her when she is better? It is wonderful you were there to help her.

WELL DONE YOU !!!

Diana & Teddy xxx

That would be wonderful if the vet has a good home for Grace. Your worries would be over on that front. Although I know you will miss her terribly.

Glad Tipper didn't have any more seizures last night. I'm inclined to think that either she is not having Any or they are very mild because previously you have been woken from sleep when she is having seizures. So, if you aren't being woke up now, then something is different. (just my thoughts)

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

Sorry Patti I missed the post you posted above the one I replied to I see it says the vet may of found her a home I do hope so. X

is grace awake and at home with you again? i hope the vet has found her a good home. she sounds as a very lovely cat. hope he will give you a large discount since she is a rescue and the dental work was more complicated than you thought.
he knows how much tippers illness costs you.........
i hope the roads were cleaned from ice and snow.
do you have to make that trip again tomorrow with tipper for her laser treatment?
hope at least you all sleep well.

Awww, I'm so glad that the vet is able to help! Grace sounds wonderful and that poor baby! Too bad that you didn't get the name of those losers who had her, your vet could've sent them the bill and reported them to animal control!

I hope that he can give you a break.

As for Tipper not having seizures - you have always heard her when she has so it sounds like the meds are working :) Yeah!!!

Hi Everyone:
Well I stayed up last nite and have to report that Tipper did have seizures. She had 2 small ones while I was awake watching, so they are not gone unfortunately. I up her medicine to a full tablet tonite though and we will see after a week of that. It is really disappointing , but I guess that she has been having them and it did not wake me up. So back to the drawing board we go. She is getting miserable with no walking and being confines so she does not jump. She is acting out and beating up her toys and digging on the rug- all the attention getters. I know how she feel as she ahs always walked and this is awful for her.
Grace moaned a little last nite, and she wanted the bandage off her leg. She was all happy when I took it off. She has settled in again, and is her sweet self. This is killing me to make her move. The vet was unable to find someone to take her. I brushed her hair this morning, gave her some soft food, and put her meds in her eyes which she hates. It is an ointment and must temporarily blurr her vision and scares her. Other than that she is fine and all fixed up and ready to be a wonderful companion to someone. I can see she has taken off some weight since she has been cut down on food. This is all good. She needs to be put on a quality low cal food and monitored carefully as to the amount given. I did not sleep well last nite and have to take Tipper to therapy this afternoon. I will have to drag myself there. I must try and find Grace a home by this weekend it is not fair she is closed in one room and she wants out. I have a friend back in Pittsburgh I may try her, but that would mean driving all the way back there. Oh well she must have a permanent home. I got the 500.00 bill from the vet yesterday and he gave me no breaks whatsoever, so much for his big heart. Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti,
Catching up on your news...I've been dealing with my mother in law who fell and broke her leg. She's in rehab now, so I've been back and forth to see her there.
I am so sorry about Grace. Those stupid people who had her were abusive pet owners...guess that was obvious when they were going to just dump her in the dead of winter.
Well...sorry you still saw some seizures but it does seem like there's been an improvement with the medication, I hope that upping a bit will help even more.
Super cold and I'm forcing the Trixie to wear her sweater. Doing very short walks and she's bored inside. We have a foot of snow in the park but it's just too cold to have Trixie outside so she's forced to stay in and tear up paper bags and play tug of war with me! Hope you and your babies keeping warm. I'm hoping you find Grace a good home and someone who will love her like you do.

Barbara

Hi Everyone:
Oh Lordy!!! Now my other elderly neighbor the man is sick real bad with the flu and bronchitis. He is really sick as he is diabetic and it hit him hard. I am calling to check him and made two different soups vegetable and wedding and put on his porch as I can little afford to be sick. I put it on his porch and he got it after I left. I was in the process of trying to talk him into taking Gracie too. He is very kind and could use the company since she is more dog like she would have it good as I can look in on her and still see her. We will see. For now he has to get better, he went to the Dr. and got meds so I hope they do the trick. I will not take her there until he is better, but want to know today if he wants her as this is unfair to her and she wants out of this room bad. I know he is older, but I cannot find anyone else, and I would place her if anything happened to him. She is on her back laying and purring up a storm. The weather is awful and we just got a wind alert until 12:00 tomorrow. I have to take Tipper out in this to therapy, and she must go so I will have to suck it up and take her. Blessings
Patti

hi patti, did you manage to drive to tippers therapy and back safe? is her leg better again as a result of the therapy? no walking would bore my dogs to death too.
if your neighbour wants grace, you can keep an eye on her and keep in touch. the weather sounds terrible.
we had a cold drizzle today, but it is still +2c. so no slippery roads.
hope the full seizure pill will do the trick.
i am disappointed that the vet charged you everything he did for grace, considering you are one of his main customers i think, and the fact that grace is a rescue......my vet is acting more commercial also. i still get discounts, but nothing for free anymore.....

Patti,
2 small seizures is definitely an improvement for Tipper. I hope that your neighbor takes Grace. That poor cat has been through enough. Good luck today and be safe.

Hi Everyone:
Well I took Tipper to therapy yesterday. The therapist said she is ok to be loose in the house. I am so worried as she is wild after this confinement and have to watch her carefully. If she hurts this again I will scream. The therapist said she felt her ACL where it crosses over her knee and she has no swelling. She said she ahs responded well. Tipper was bother by the laser yesterday though and something is hurting her, could be on her back. As she was touchy there. Also I thought I noticed a small red spot on her Koochie yesterday. She may be sore there for some reason as when I tried to look she snapped. I will have to get her in a head lock and put some zinc oxide on it. It was funny I told the therapist yesterday and she kept trying to get a look at it and Tipper would put her tail way down so she could not see, so the therapist shot it with the laser a little bit to start it healing. Which gave me a brain storm idea. Could cold laser therapy possibly help CC heal since it rejuvenates the cells??? I am going to ask her next time as this may help Dawn and Renee etc. I am still searching for a home for Grace. She want out of this room. God she is sweet and loving and so funny. Tipper did have some small seizures last nite and the cortisol is climbing as she is moving all over the bed and being hungry. I do not know if I should do 20 mg Vetoryl and 9mg trilostane as we are at 28 combined now or go back to the 30 mg which made her pre number low??? I would like some opinions please on what you would do?? This is just a balancing act all the time it wears you out. It is frigid and snowing here. The roads were bad on the way home yesterday. Glad we do not have to go out until
next week. Pray I find Grace a home. Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti, I hope the full tab will work for Tipper. Every time it makes me laugh when I read about her beating up her toys to express her dissatisfaction about something.:D:D:D I wish I could see that. None of my babies do that. Hopefully the weather will get warmer so Tipper can have her walks as she really needs them. BTW, your vet is in the wrong profession, he should be in a cut throat kind of business!:mad:

What about splitting the dose more? Instead of 20/8 how about 14/14, same over all dosage but splitting it more evening through the day?

Interesting idea on the laser therapy and cc. I was trying to remember if any of the members have tried that in the past.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Sharlene:
I tried the split dosage before and does does better on one in the morning for some reason. So it has to be one dose of either 30mg Vetoryl, or 20mg Vetoryl and 9mg tirilostane. Don't know which to do and hate to buy more trilo and it does not do it. Hate to give her 30 vetoryl and make her pre low. It is just a catch 22. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
I just looked up Grace's eye meds and I am soooo disappointed in my vet. He knows I am treating her out of the kindness of my heart and her charged me 35.00 for her meds which cost 17.00. I just get so sick of his crap that it makes me so angry. He knows I need this money for Tipper and over extended myself to be humans and help this poor cat. You would think he would have given me a discount!! No he over charges me!! It makes me sick at my stomach knowing he had no empathy for this cat. Tipper is napping I let her have the run of the house and she definitely smells Grace, but cannot see her so that is good. She is happier not that she is free, but I am scared of her jumping on the sofa. I am watching her like a hawk. Blessings
Patti

Oh that is so disappointing that he over charged you for Grace's medicine :( I bet that his office has a set price that he charges for medications and unless someone questions or the vet comes out and says explicitly to not charge that much, that they just do it. The only way that you get a regular price is by saying, this is what I'd pay here or here for the same thing. I wonder if they would refund you?

Okay I see what you mean. You need to a larger dose in the AM. Do you have some 1 - 2mg doses to try to add to?

Hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

the over charging is indeed disappointing , i do not understand why your vet is acting like this. [well i do...money]
i hope tipper will keep her 4 legs on the floor.
glad that the laser therapy is working for her leg. is tipper almost finished with her therapy?
sleep well.

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Hi Everyone:
I just looked up Grace's eye meds and I am soooo disappointed in my vet. He knows I am treating her out of the kindness of my heart and her charged me 35.00 for her meds which cost 17.00. I just get so sick of his crap that it makes me so angry. He knows I need this money for Tipper and over extended myself to be humans and help this poor cat. You would think he would have given me a discount!! No he over charges me!! It makes me sick at my stomach knowing he had no empathy for this cat. Tipper is napping I let her have the run of the house and she definitely smells Grace, but cannot see her so that is good. She is happier not that she is free, but I am scared of her jumping on the sofa. I am watching her like a hawk. Blessings
Patti

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I wish all vets could be as loving and selfless as the beautiful people on this site... But alas, there is always a bottom line :( I don't think people understand the love between an owner and a dog until they've experienced what we experience. Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers patti. Xoxo

Hi Everyone:
The vets office does have set prices for things unless the vet writes otherwise, and in my case he did. Tipper has one more therapy session then she will go back to once every 3 weeks unless something happens. She tried to jump yesterday but I caught her. She is throwing her toys in the air and beating them on the floor to get her frustration level across to me. Believe me I am getting the message, but can't do anything about it. We have 40 mile and hour wind and snow, and temps around 7 so she cannot go out. last nite she had the second of a whole pill for her seizures and had many little ones all thru the nite. I am not sure if this is even working, maybe just mentally! I am disappointed because it is really hard watching this nite after nite and not worrying. I will email the neurologist in 5 days and tell him what is going on to see what the next step will be. I called a cat rescue near me to see if they have any people waiting for a nice cat, no luck yet. I swear this is really hard to do. I saw something yesterday that I have to look into. It was an article stating that most cats that come form breeders or catteries have Corona virus already. If that is the case then my Chance sis come form a breeder and maybe when he gets his blood work soon we could throw that in there to check. If he has it then maybe I do not have to make Grace leave. The poor thing is being so patient waiting to get out of this room. She is just a delight of a cat. Yesterday she sat up like a big Budda- her belly was so big she could not sit up right, I should have taken the pictures as it was funny. She lets you brush and touch her anywhere unlike a lot of cats. She is more dog like than any cat I have ever had. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
Well Tipper seems to want to make up for things since her confinement. She wants to jump up on the sofa and look out the window. I clearly cannot be with her every second and I am so worried she will reinjure herself. I have to let her be free for a while she is really depressed form being confined. She was always such a happy girl and enjoyed life, not so much anymore. I am trying to please everyone in the house and spend time with them all. Poor Grace, she needs out of this room and into a new house where she is free to roam. The weather continues to be miserable. The wind is not letting up either. Very boring day for the babies that have not been able to walk now for a long time. Toby's feet froze in seconds outside today when he went potty. He was picking up his back feet and walking on the front ones like he was doing a hand stand. Today is a good day to bake, but I just don't feel like doing anything. This has me all worn out already. Oh God now I just got my tax bill!!! I cannot catch a break here. Blessings
Patti

the weather sounds still terrible overthere.
the fact is that you can not explain to a dog why he or she can not do what ever they are used to do because of an injury. they feel fine and get really upset. it does not feel good to have to do this to them.
ian's hotspot has to be treated, but he gets very, very stressed!
he cried out loud, having a panic attack.
i really wish i did not have to do this. i hope this was the last time. i do not want him to hate me for it.
hope tipper is sleeping seizure free tonight, so you can have a proper rest too!

Patti, as if you don't already have enough expenses :( :(, but what you said yesterday got me to thinking. Might you truly want to go ahead and just test the other kitties for Corona if it means Grace might be able to stay? Or maybe drawing blood from a cat is a pretty big deal and you don't want to have to do it unnecessarily.

I love kitties as does my hubby, but he goes all asthmatic with them so we can't have one of our own. But my family was a cat family my whole time growing up. Of course, I didn't pay any attention to their vet visits when I was a kid, though, so I don't know a thing about their blood draws or other testing. :o

Marianne

Hi Everyone:
Well we still are having some seizures at bed time. I wish they would just stop, but I feel we are going to have to go to plan B. I am getting ready with a letter to the neurologist with my questions and will send it Wednesday.
Marianne:
You are reading my mind. I read an article that said cats that come from breeders and catteries very often have been exposed to the corona virus. I am do to get Chance's blood work for his 6 month check up and I am going to throw a corona check in with it. I know for certain Lucky has not been exposed as he was tested before I left him come in the house with Chance for everything under the sun. I feel so bad for her and she sits by the window in this room looking out and is anxious to explore her new surroundings.
Tipper was very restless and up most of the nite. I don't know if it is because she had slept a lot in the day or it is the cortisol. I think it is the cortisol. Her Acth etc. is scheduled for Wednesday so we will see from there. Also I was looking at all Tipper's T4 results from the last 2 years she was always low normal so you think I should still test her thyroid?? Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
I am done shoveling a potty spot for the dogs. Tipper is really getting ansy not being able to walk. We never have a dull moment here. Elvis my normally sweet Yellow Naped Parrot decided to really bite me badly when I went to take him out today. I have had a million dogs bites, but the worst bite you will ever get is from a parrot his size. Their jaw power far surpasses a dog. Wow did that hurt. When I poured the peroxide on I went thru the roof. Needless to say Elvis will be in his cage the rest of the day and no one here is speaking to him. He knows he did something really bad. Thank God I am not scared by it as he would never get out again! I had to run out to the store for Delora. I can't just leave her there with no help, and her son has not even been back. She is bleeding again and the Dr. told her if she does she has to go to the hospital and they are going to use radiation on her. She has not told her daughter in law to take her yet!! I told her she has to listen tot he Dr. and it is falling on deaf ears! All I can do is help her with whatever I can and be her friend. My elderly man neighbor is getting better from the meds the Dr. gave him. I wish he would take Grace then I could see her, but he wants no animals. I will send his dinner over today to help him out. I am praying I find a way out of this mess for Grace.

ouch, that sounds very painful! do you know what triggered him to bite you? is he a jealous parrot?
maybe your neighbour can take grace till you have found her a new home? sort of co-owner, maybe he will fall in love with her.................problem solved....
if your own cats were never exposed, it will be a risk introducing grace to their room and lives.
it has rained the whole day overhere, so dirty doggies.
a short walk in the rain and bedtime. they do not p and p in the garden.

Hi Everyone:
Tipper had a really restless nite last nite like something was hurting or wrong, can't explain it. She moved all over the bed every few minutes so I think the cortisol is on the rise. We will know after her test on Wednesday. She did not have a lot of seizure activity, probably because she was never really in her Rem sleep as she kept moving about. I am almost ready to completely switch her to Fromm food by next week. We have taken this slow so she has no ill effects going on. I am hoping she will stay good on the total switch. We got more snow last nite and unbelievable winds. Tonite we are to go below 0 and more snow. Hope it is better for our trip to the vet Wednesday and Thursday is therapy. I have been brushing Grace and talking to her a lot and she does respond to my voice. This is a smart cat, and you can brush her anywhere or do anything on her and she never gets nasty or rattled. What a pity she was not cared for and would not be in this situation today. I am going to call a lady where I live she lives alone and ask her, she had a puppy she got rid of because she could not house break it, and Grace is like a dog that goes in litter so maybe it will work??? Delora is supposed to go for radiation if she continues to bleed, but she has not told her son yet. I told her she needs to do what the Dr. tells her or she will be gone even sooner. I just do not understand her reasoning unless she is resigned to dying and getting it over with? I have some black and purple marks where Elvis got me, and when I went to take him out today he was his old self and came right out with no problems. I told my girlfriend yesterday if he does it again he will be living elsewhere and she laughed and said that will be the day! I would never send him somewhere. I am hoping Wednesday comes soon as I think Tipper needs her dosage upped. I still have the 30mg Vetoryl and may need to go to it again and test more often unfortunately to check her pre does not go low again. I am thinking because the compounded version Trilostane is not always accurate maybe she is just not getting a dosage close enough to 30 to manage the cortisol.
Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti,

Maybe if you have to go to the 30mg again, then since the main concern is the pre, you could do just baseline cortisol, frequently and then full ACTH if the pre shows any problems, outside of the normal schedule of testing? That would allow you to know what is going on, without the full cost of the ACTH unless needed.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Good idea Sharlene. I just hate to put Tipper thru that all that time. It is so hard on them.

hi patti, i hope you will find a dosage for tipper which will suit her well, so you and tipper can sleep better.
i hope that lady wants to take care of grace, that would be nice. plus you can visit her i hope.
i am only on the forum for 5 min. because it is 5 am overhere................[have been busy with the tax-forms.]
too much to worry about to go to sleep.

Hi Everyone:
I thought I had a home for Grace, but it will not work out. I will continue trying. It is to be 7below tomorrow morning and Tipper and Chance have to go to the vets. I am hoping to get Tipper's Vetoryl regulated by early next week at the latest. I probably will go back to the 30mg Vetoryl. She needs to be controlled as I worry about more damage being done in her uncontrolled state. She is hungry an hour and a half early again today so I know what is doing this. I guess it is nice to sometimes live in a bubble though. Tipper's both back feet froze immediately upon going out to go potty. I had to carry her and she is no light weight anymore. I am guessing she will be up tonite and all around the bed again. I am waiting for the thyroid test until she starts on the new food not mixed with the old and give her a week on it to see if it starts to make a difference for her. Stay safe and warm everyone. Blessings
patti

Patti,
Just wanted to let you know I'm praying for you and Tipper. And hoping for Grace to get that new home soon.

Try to stay warm.
Donna

Prayers coming your way as always Patti.

Good luck at the vets today!

Fooey, sorry that things didn't work out for Grace. What about putting a notice up in the area you live in? or at the vets office or even with some rescue organizations who might have applications from someone suitable.
I'm just throwing some ideas out.
Hope all goes well for Tipper and Chance's tests.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

our vet has a messageboard for those cases in the waiting room and hall. flyer with picture of grace must get lots of attention i quess.
supermarkets do also have messageboards and pet stores [at least in my country] we also do have lots of re-homing sites for pets.
hope this will work out for grace.
good luck with your vet visit tomorrow, and a safe drive through the blizzard................bbbrrrrrrr!!