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So chuffed to read everything looks good and no movement in the wrong direction as I know you were so worried as we all were for you
I sure hope that medicine does the trick for you both and that you can get some rest and peace of mind now.
Look forward to seeing the pictures of Grace, welcome home little one.
Bug hug
Mel
Xxxxx
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Great news to see that Tipper is in such good condition, hopefully the meds work and you can now relax and enjoy each other :)
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Hi Everyone:
Well Tipper is still having the seizures so we will see in the next two weeks what happens. Bad news on Grace though. Her eye, well both actually may have some virus she is shedding that could be contagious to my cats. I have to keep her by herself with no contact. I am not sure what I can do now. She either had to be treated and go to a home with no other cats if she has a virus, as she will carry it her whole life and my cats can get it, or I have to find a home where she is the only cat and have her treated or she will go blind. I am already into 150.00 and Tipper and Toby need teeth cleanings etc. I cannot go another high bill. I have to think this one over. Just do not know what to do. She is sleeping on her back purring while I type, she was wonderful at the vets and everyone said she is the most beautiful cat they have ever seen. Some more decisions to make!!!. Tipper's laser therapist was really upset that they messed her leg up at the hospital, said we now have to start all over again. Oh well what else is new? I am dead tired and if I have to find Grace a new home I am going to be really bummed. She must have her teeth cleaned and maybe one pulled, then while under anesthesia they swab her throat and eyes and send it away to identify what is inflaming her eyes. My neighbor old man would have to keep her while I had all this done so she is not near my cats as she cannot stay locked up in a room alone for 2 more weeks and that will be about how long all this takes. God is anything simple anymore??? Have some catching up to do in the house still. Blessings
Patti
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Hi Everyone:
Another thing I forgot to say on my last post was that when waiting for Grace at the vets today, a Yorkie came in for an ACTH test- yet another dog with Cushings!!. I also wanted to say I am concerned about the statement from Tipper's IMS re- kidneys saying decrease in corticomedullary definition. Can someone tell me if this is the beginnings of renal disease?? Blessings
Patti
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Hi Patti
You have been through so much and I am so pleased Tipper is better than you thought she may be, she is better than Teddy is to be honest, he has the start of kidney problems, and has cretinin in his urine and urea in his blood, he has permanent heart arrhythmia's as well as the mitral valve issues, plus he has his spleen nodule, he is getting more and more tired looking we are scared we will loose him soon, so I am genuinely happy for you, as I know the fears of our dear ones being sick, Poor Grace, and what a dilemma for you too, I hope it works out.
Diana & Teddy x
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How sad about Grace, will your elderly neighborhood be willing to keep her?
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Hi Everyone:
Valerie:
I haven't been able to talk to my neighbor to see if he can take Grace for 2 weeks as he is not home. I will keep checking.
Diana:
I am so sorry Teddy is not doing well. I really thought he was going to defy the odds being at home with you and getting love. I pray he improves. You should be getting ready for your Dr. visit soon??
I am thinking Grace may have a herpes infection in her eye, which will be for life, and she can shed it any time she gets nervous so that would eliminate her staying here and I would have to find her a home. It would make sense as when they get nervous it acts up and she has obviously been abused and nervous about a dog beating the crap out of her. I pray that it is not so she can stay here. At the vets she laid on the exam table wagged her tail and purred and never any panic at all. She was great in the car again. When home she laid on her back, spread her legs out and purred at me. She is truly amazing. Please pray she does not have anything contagious. I need her to live a good life. Blessings
Patti
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I really hope that she doesn't have a contagious virus and that she'll be able to stay with you. Poor thing, she deserves a good life after all she's been through.
I wonder though, wasn't your neighbor going to take your other neighbors car though? They wouldn't be able to be together if Grace has a virus right?
Crud about Tippers leg having to start all over. :(
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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Hi Everyone:
Sharlene: Glad hubs pneumonia was caught in time. I am sad though at the party cancellation as we won't get pics. I am going to try and take pics of Grace tomorrow as I am still tired out today after taking her to the vet, an d Tipper to therapy yesterday. The man that will be watching her is the one I wanted to watch the other cat, but I just found out Delora's situation is not operable so they will be doing chemo and the cat will be home with her. I will need to be looking for a permanent home for her cat though as you never know what might happen. Her son told her it was a different type of cancer that she has now, as he does not want blamed for not getting her the chemo. Well the Dr. blew the lid off that today as he told her it was a re development from the old cancer because she failed to get chemo. So now she knows how her pastor son lies. It is stage 4 so I don't know what will happen and it is in her lungs now too, but the nodules were too small to biopsy. God bless her I hope she beats this the poor thing. I will be really glad for a quiet restful weekend coming up- if I get one??? Blessings
Patti
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i also wish you a quiet and restful weekend. hopefully you do find the cat a good home where she can be the only cat in the house. keeping her seperated in your house in your office is not a good solution as you mentioned. and the money issue as well. you can not save the whole world. tipper and you and your other animals come first.
during my work i see a lot of pets who would be better off somewhere else, but i can not help them unfortunately.
hope tippers leg will heal soon and that the new medicin will do it's work.
is the weather still ok, or is it freezing again?
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Hi Everyone:
I am catching up in the house little by little. I have spent a lot of time with Grace. I have decided against letting ,y neighbor watch her. Since this is a virus that would require contact with my cats they are no where near her or will be. So she just has to wait it out in my office. I thought the stress of another home yet, may make this virus flare up worse. I am worried as I know a herpes virus can start shedding and become active because of stress, and she was stressed at the dog beating her up, and if it is that she will carry it all her life and cannot stay here. I prayed on it last nite. I am hoping God sees what a bad life she had and needs this home and helps her out. I have already started cutting down her food. She is a joy and smart and actually more dog like than anything, sleeps on her back, and likes her belly rubbed unlike most cats. Tipper had a few episodes last nite, but not a lot like normal. She is resting up still exhausted from the Pittsburgh trip. I am still not recuperated either. It is cold out and snowing so it sounds like a good day to make some chili. I will send some to my two elderly neighbors. Delora told me last nite that they do not hold out too much hope for her. She said her pastor son told the Dr. he believes in divine healing. Well I do too, but she needs to try the chemo, I don't think she has much to lose. This must be the first time Grace has been able to look out a window. I have bird feeders all around for the cats and she is watching the birds fly by the window crouching down like she is going to get one and not let them see her. Tipper's leg is a tad better today. So I am resting her up for next weeks BP and laser treatment. She is so content at home. Delora wrote me a wonderful thank you card, I will keep it always in case she does not get thru this. Blessings
Patti
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Patti,
when they diagnosed my father, there wasn't much hope either. Tell your neighbor not to give up. He son can go where the sun doesn't shine.
I hope that Grace has a miracle so that she can stay with you. She sounds a lot like Annabelle Lee who is at least mostly Maine Coon from looking at her.
I'm glad that Tipper's leg is improving. I still can't believe that the hospital undid much of the treatments. You should send them the last appt bills.
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sounds as if grace is a nice cat. but herpes is contagious indeed. does it really take 2 weeks before they know what is wrong with her eyes?
do they really declaw cats in the usa? it is prohibited by law overhere, so is cutting your dogs tail or ears! i am glad it is not allowed.
have a lazy sunday for the both of you to catch some well earned rest. i will try to do the same overhere.
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I really hope that it isn't herpes or a contagious virus that Grace has. That is a long time to work to find out though.
Hope Tippers leg gets back on track today.
I'm going to hope for a miracle for Delora too. Poor thing. :( that is so scary for her.
Hope you are having a nice day.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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Hi Everyone:
Well I either fell asleep on the job or Tipper had very few episodes last nite. I am hoping it was fewer episodes. I will make sure to check tonite as I got some good rest last nite and feel a little better. Tipper's leg is on the mend again so I hope we can keep it going. I though I only had 2 appointments with her next week and one just popped up on my computer for Monday for her Adequan shot so I will get the bp Monday too and not take her out again until the laser therapy Thursday. I must take Grace Wednesday for her culture and teeth cleaning, she meow loud for food and won't be able to have any so this should be fun being serenaded by her all the way to the vets. I noticed yesterday a bit of skin that seems to protrude under her eyelid. I am hoping this could be an allergy, or something they let go and that is not catchy and got bad. My God she is so sweet you just can't believe they abused her so. Everyone please say a prayer for her that this is not catchy. I have just fallen in love with her personality and her sleeping on her back. She is so huge she looks like a tiny submarine. She never acts out or meows when alone in this room. She is truly a delight sent from heaven. I am hoping Tipper's leg only needs two more weekly sessions or I am going to be in the poor house. I think the Adequan shot will help also tomorrow. I should just give all my money to the vet and he could give me an allowance to live on!! Blessings
Patti
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Hi Everyone:
I am back so soon!! Just wanted to give you a picture alert on Grace her album is now up so please look at her. Also I forgot to say I am in the 4th day of transitioning Tipper to Fromm reduced calorie senior food. I am doing this literally a few nuggets at a time as I do not want any system upset, or chance pancreatitis, so it may take about 2-3 weeks this way, but I need to keep Tipper safe. Blessings
Patti
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Oh Grace is just lovely. :) Did the vet look at her and say it may be a contagious virus or think it could be allergies? I hope it is just allergies. She is just adorable.
Glad that Tipper's leg is starting to mend again. That is good. It does sound this therapist is a very good one. Nice to know that success has been had before with the leg issue and the therapy.
Think we might get more snow today too.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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Sharlene:
The vet did not say what he though it was, and probably did not want to upset me if he did think it was herpes. I am sure he had some inkling of what it was. I pray she has an allergy or something else, maybe an eye infection that was never taken care of and it went to the other eye too, as you know how cats wash and maybe she wiped it in the other eye too. I am praying for her, she is just terrific. Blessings
Patti
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Hi Everyone:
I just got an answer to my question I sent the IMS concerning the statement she made about Tipper's kidneys. She told me what she described in her report about the decrease in corticomedulla definition is a natural thing to see in an older dog and not to worry that Tipper has no signs of any kidney problems. Thank God for another blessing. Grace had a hair ball and made a huge mess on my carpet. I just got it all cleaned up. She started meowing the loudest of any cat I have ever heard and then vomited. Oh never a dull moment here. The wind is ferocious here and it is really cold. I got Delora and my other elderly neighbor who is sick again milkshakes from Mickey D's and took them some chile too. They were both so happy to get it. God Bless them both. Blessings
Patti
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Awww, what a sweetie you are Patti. When I am elderly I want a good neighbor like you! I will promise to behave myself and pay it forward by being a good neighbor in return. :) :) (does that get me into the neighborhood???) :D
My tipsy use to yeow something awful before a hairball came up too. I think he just didn't like it and was sending out the warning alarm, coming up mum, here it comes, NOW. :)
Great news, no problem with Tippers kidneys. There seems to be a good many things that you can check off your worry list after this past week. That is all good.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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Hi Everyone:
Tipper is having a nap right now. She seems to be doing a little better on her leg today, she is putting her foot flat on the floor more times than not. I wish I could just keep her from thinking about running and jumping for a while. I was calling to check on Delora and she was not answering. I just got ready to run up there and she picked up the phone. She has been sleeping a lot and very tired so she did not hear the phone, she is almost deaf. She is ok just not sounding like herself. I hope if she passes it is in her sleep as she is very scared right now and I feel so sorry for her. Wow no one told me when a Main Coon throws up a hairball stay out of the way!! It was like an explosion of food like I have never seen. Sorry maybe TMI but I was really taken back by how much they throw up . It always has to be on the carpet too! She sits in my office by the window and looks up at the birds eating at their feeder and she slinks around like she is going to pounce and catch one, she it too cute. I think this is the first time she has had access to a window which is pitiful. I will get her a cat window perch later after she sheds a few lbs and she can get in it. I will have to get a super heavy duty one for her size! My other cats have one, but she would break it she is so big. have to take Tipper out in the frozen Yukon to go potty so I am hoping this weather does not freeze her leg up like last time. Blessings
Patti
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hopefully you don't need a lot of appointments at the laser therapist anymore for tipper. and with all the costs for this new cat........
besides from the cushing tipper sounds in pretty good shape.
when the leg problem is solved, you will have a puppy again.....
sleep well tonight!
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Patti,
Glad to hear Tipper's leg seems to be feeling better.
Praying for Delora.
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Oh Patti!
I laughed out loud at your description of Grace's hairball.
Thankfully, Annie has only left me that kind of present once. Gracie actually cries before she lets loose, makes me wonder if it hurts her.
Hahahha, I can't stop laughing :-)
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Hi Everyone:
I just took Tipper for her Adequan shot. I think I need an apartment above the vets office. I am there 2-3 times a week think of the gas I will save. I forgot about it and it just popped up on my computer. So we don't have to go Wednesday. Tipper lost weight YEAHHHHHHHH!!!!! She also had good BP again. I have bad news on another front to report though. Grace be able to stay here. I have to find her a home. I got her blood results while I was there. I had specifically asked for a Corona test as I have know about it for 30 years or more. If a cat tests positive for a corona titre then that means is has a 30% chance of shedding FIP during it's lifetime. Feline infectious Perotinitis which has no cure and will kill your cat. I cannot take that chance as much as I love her and would love nothing more than to keep her she has to go. I will have her teeth done Wednesday and see after they swab her eyes if she has anything else so the person I give her to knows what is going on. This is preventable and I could just scream. I wish I could find that lady I would be strangling her right about now. If the cat would have been vaccinated and only kept indoors around no other cats that did have the same shots etc. she would be able to stay here. This poor baby. That is why I have found animals to be better than some people. So she will be an only cat somewhere for the rest of her life. I must now start finding potential people for her. It is not fair she is in a room alone. Tipper's leg is getting better, she still holds it funny, but she is walking better. It just sleeted if you can believe it, and the roads are slick so Tipper cannot walk today. I watched her last nite and she fell asleep early and so did I but it seems it may have been the second nite with no seizure activity that I could see. I am hoping she did not do it when I fell asleep and the meds are working- could we really be this fortunate??? God I sure pray we are. Please pray I find sweet Grace a suitable home as I will be very picky where she goes. Blessings
Patti
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Awwww Patti,
That sucks about Grace.
I hope that you can find her a good home!
Can the vets help with that? Many let you put up a poster in their offices.
Good news for Tipper!!!!!!
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Hi Everyone:
I though I was bummed about Grace well now I am really more than bummed. I am devastated for my poor little lady neighbor Delora. He wonderful Pastor son called her and told her to forget the chemo as she does not have long to live. May her rot in Hell yes I did say it and I mean it!!! The poor thing. I have to find her cat a permanent home now too. Her son will take it in the woods and shoot it. I am just sick over this news, what a way to comfort your mother that gave you life!!!! I still am hanging onto to the good news about my girl though, I have been very blessed with that. It is a solid sheet of ice outside as we had sleet all day. I have to carry Tipper to the spot and put her down to go potty and it is not easy holding her and making sure we both don't go down. I can feel the temperature dropping. God help old people that have children like this pastor. Blessings
Patti
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Oh my god! That is terrible. Can't Delora make her own medical decisions as to whether to have chemo or not? Why does her son have the right to say, no you can't have treatment? Dude is seriously messed up. :(
I'm so sorry Patti. This is just too much for anyone to have to bear. :(
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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Patti,
Please call those numbers that I gave you asap.
Your neighbor's son is abusing her and this can't be allowed to happen and you have enough to deal with. Let the professionals take over please but those calls need to be made right away for her sake please.
Her son is a piece of crap. I wonder what his parishioner's would think?
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I think I would show up at his church and give a testimonial to just what kind of "christian" he is. But then, I'm an old B_____!
If he has power of attorney there isn't anything she or anyone else can do unless they take him to court and can prove he does not have her best interest at heart. :(
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That's not true. A social worker can get involved and should get involved. You would be amazed at what they can do or the contacts that they have.
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He probably has a power of attorney and can make informed decisions about her care. I would still alert social services anyway and have them look into it. I would do it right away. I would have to do it because I'm a mandatory reporter for any kind of suspected abuse. They could at least investigate and find out if her sons decisions are in her best interest. You can't do this Patti. You need to get the system involved. That is what they are there for.
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My brother had POA over my mom and he put her in assisted living against her wishes, against the wishes of the rest of the family and against her doctor's advise. He had full power over every facet of her life. Unless we could prove he did not have her best interest at heart, there was nothing we could do.
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I believe that unless a person has been declared legally incompetent or physically/mentally unable to communicate their wishes, they have the right to revoke a POA at any time (both financial and medical POA). At the least, the incapacity typically requires a physician's documentation to that effect. I don't know how this plays out in Delora's case, but I didn't want people to think that just because they execute a POA, they've automatically turned their life over to somebody else forever. They have to be declared incapacitated before the POA kicks in. Before that, they remain in charge of their lives, can change their minds at any time, and can"fire" the POA.
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Hi Everyone:
Well I can tell you that Delora knows how her son is, but everything I say to her like make your own decisions she sticks up for him. It is a hopeless battle. She is not very educated, a little country woman whose husband did everything. Delora did very little and now that her husband passed she is at the mercy of her son who she dearly loves and thinks he would do nothing to harm her. If I get social works involved I will probably not be allowed to see her anymore as he will know it is me as I am the only one helping her. I would not want that as I have looked after her for 6 years now. I need to think this over tonite while I am sure I will be wide awake.
I am wanting some opinions on this subject in the event I decide to have Tipper's teeth cleaned. She has two larger fatty cysts. One on her back, the other on her knee on the good back leg. Is it wise to have them removed or do you think I am setting myself up for possible CC issues if they do not heal well?? I have always had them removed before she got Cushings when she has her yearly cleanings, but this is different now. Has anyone else done this and had any problems with healing?? Tipper teeth were cleaned every year in February. I never cleaned them when she got Cushings as so many things were going on and I was scared because of the heart murmur etc. to put her under. her mouth smells and I know it is from no cleaning. What do you think of this?? I do brush her teeth every day with CET and it is not helping. It is not coming from inside her according to the IMS. So what are the opinions on what to do here? I don't want my dog not waking up just to get her teeth cleaned but understand the importance of it. Poor Grace is purring away at my feet , she is like a dog. She is the sweetest cat ever, I hate doing this to her, but at least she will have her teeth clean and be up to date on vet care etc. I just hate having her go somewhere else. Lots of dilemmas! Blessings
Patti
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i am sorry to hear that you have to look for an other home for grace, but it sounds as an uncomplicated cat with a good nature.
must not be to difficult to rehome a cat like her with e.g. an elderly person where she will receive lots of attention. . she sounds like a quiet cat.
i have no experience with teeth cleaning for my dogs or cats [barf] , so i can not give you advice on this matter.
when it is not really necessary, i won't sedate my 12 year old cushing dog. if you brush them everyday, the teeth can not be too dirty can they?
no experience with fatty cysts either.....can't they stay put if they do not bother her? how large are they?
good to hear that tippers new meds do their work and the both of you are sleeping better.
i can imagine that the both of you do need some time-out from the vet for a while to relax and heal from all the physical exams.
be careful outside, so you don't break a leg or worse......your animals can not miss you.......
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Patti, I think that the general rule with the cysts is to leave them alone unless they bother Tipper like hampering movement or get sore etc.
Maybe they can do a very light sedative to clean her teeth? I would ask.
The fact that Delora's son told her that she is not to bother with chemo is not in her best interests and any social worker should know this. They absolutely can get involved regardless of who is POA.
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Hi Everyone:
Well it seems that Tipper did not have any episodes before I fell asleep so I am hoping she stayed that way after I went to sleep. I am so wanting these meds to stop this for her and me as it is so hard to watch. Tipper insists she wants to jump up on the bed again and we are having a real time of fighting about it. I don't mean to yell at her but she scares me so. I am still limiting her mobility and she is becoming angry with me because of it. I just thank God every day that she is as good as she is after all she has been thru. She will have to have her ACTH, Thyroid panel, Blood work, Urine etc done at the end of the month. I am giving her a break in between what all went on in the hospital before she has a nervous breakdown. I think her dose may have to go back to 30 mg Vetoryl even though that made her low on her top number. She is starting to get hungry 2 hours before her nitely meal and that is not a good sign. You can pretty much read her by her clinical signs as they come on stronger than other dogs may. I am still very sick over Grace. Tomorrow she goes to get her teeth done. Someone will be very fortunate to get such a loving and wonderful cat. She will makes someone very happy. She is tired of staying in my office though so this must end after she is cultured etc. and she has to move on unfortunately. I have been crying when thinking about it. She has had a hard life so far, and is still loving and sweet after all she has been thru. She loves being able to see out the window. Hope everyone stays safe and warm with this new clipper coming along. Blessings
Patti
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Hi Everyone:
Well Tipper started getting hungry again for her 6 o'clock at 4:30, so I think the cortisol is rising again and I may have to revert back to the 30mg Vetoryl as we are at 20 Vetoryl and 8 trilostane now. I hate to do it as it makes her top number go low. I had to leave her as she is getting really pushy wanting to eat so I know the signs to well. I am going to try to stick it out until the end of the month ACTH. I do not want her uncontrolled though so I will see what happens in the next few days. I so not want her to have to have 2 ACTH's if I can get it to one, as she has had enough already.
Well my neighbor Delora called me with some more concerning news. She told me that her son got her Leaves for Lives and that she should take that instead of Chemo. I read up on this stuff and read a lot of bad things. I knew he was going to talk her out of it. The bad part is she is trying to please him so he loves her by doing what he says. I told her how I felt about all of it and she said I have my mind made up and I am doing it. There is no need to call a social worker as she is going to listen to him until her death. His word is good and when someone else tells her it isn't she chooses to believe him. There is nothing else anyone can do if she believes him. I am not going to make myself a nervous wreck if she does everything he tells her. It is out of my hands now, and God will have to intervene. He is the most evil of people I have known. This will come back to him as it always does Karma will get him in the end. I just feel so badly that she is so naïve to his crap. Grace is on her back purring again as I type. She is the most pleasant, sweet natured girl, why did this have to happen to her??? I really wish with all my heart she could stay and have a good life. I guess it was not meant to be. I am all ready to take her in the morning. I will have someone watch Tipper when I drop Grace off. I will get her around 3pm to come home. I put an ad out for her to find her a new home- I just want to cry she is so nice. God Help her. Blessings
Patti
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hi patti, i have to fight with ian too about jumping into the car. they don't understand why they can't do this anymore by themselves.
since he is on 30 mg vetoryl, he does not beg for food anymore.
hope you can find a good home for grace soon with nice people. maybe the vet will allow you to put an ad on their website and/or in the waiting room. my vet has a message board for that.
it is good that you are both sleeping well, so you can recover from everything.
hope the weather is not too bad in your area. [it is +5c. overhere]
there were 2 bills from the vet in the mail. 1 reminder and one new one. i have to find the currage to open them..................