hope molly will be her old self after a good night sleep!
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hope molly will be her old self after a good night sleep!
How is miss Molly today, hoping that it was just an off day yesterday and she is back to letting the neighbours she is there :D
I think it was an off day yesterday. She seemed fine this morning and last night, she had this spurt of energy with her toy bunny, ran in and pounced on it, (first move that fast all day long) and played a bit with hubby on the floor then walked away from him and her toy and went to take a nap. Go figure, just left them both laying on the floor.
She was good on her walk this morning so taking that as a positive sign. I think she is a bit more lazy over all on the melatonin so maybe it is that, although I thought she had adjusted to it, so not sure.
Her poops are fine, good even, and as that is usually one of the first signs if something is going off in her, I'll just hope this is nothing.
You know how she always sucks her tail before bed and cleans her paws of course. She hasn't been tail sucking since starting the lignans and melatonin. She does still clean her paws, but then a girl must have some standards. I wonder if the tail sucking was anxiety related behavior and the melatonin might be helping with that. Just something I noticed when brushing her tail yesterday. I didn't have to try and clear out saliva induced knots. This is a behavior she has had since she was less than a year old.
She is back to snoozing now, but that is to be expected after breakfast. :) I'll update at the end of the day and let you know how she is acting.
hugs all,
Sharlene and molly muffin
Good news on Molly. Em it may well have been an anxiety thing with the tail sucking but yes a girls must have clean feet and nails :D
Very encouraging news on our Miss Muffin. Leaving the boys high and dry, sounds just about her style. ;)
That sucking tail observation is interesting.:confused:
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Hi all,
So now I am going to try the sam-e meds at night before she goes to bed. It's just not working trying to find that time during the day or morning.
Molly is getting so many pills now all wrapped with wet food around them to cover up the pill that molly now thinks she is getting a treat every time a pill bottle rattles. I think she is putting on weight as she is getting all these 'treats' all the time now.
You know I thought that she had adjusted fine to the melatonine, but I think the lack of energy with her is after she has had her melatonine pill and then it takes awhile to wear off, hours and during that time she is just less than interested in anything going around her. I notice that after about 7 hours or 8, she seems to perk up a bit. I don't know, maybe it's my imagination, but she just doesn't seem her normal perky self since starting the melatonine. I'm doing 3mg morning, 3mg night. That is the only change I can think of that would be affecting her, unless it is something internal. Since she perks up a bit in the late afternoon I'm thinking it's the melatonine.
Well, we are going to have a wedding in our family too. Step daughter just got engaged while on their European trip. She sent a text from Morocco, and is very happy.
It's going to be a busy few weeks coming up, as we have a bbq/pool party in 2 weeks, then we have grandson and his mom home for the next weekend, then the company big party at hour house (which by the way, hubby has told me he has hired a band for!! That man knows how to throw a party!) I still have to get the food stuff organized for that, since the social committee isn't really doing it and our caterer is away until next week so we'll see what happens then. I think the mexican is out and beats me what is in, waiting on the proposals to be sent next week.
Today was a non day, as I woke up with a major headache, so bad my vision was all blurry trying to do work this morning. As soon as I could I took a sinus pill and headed for the couch to lay down for a bit, and then back to work but I've felt sort of fuzzy all afternoon now. Anti histamines Always do that to me. Make me feel loopy.
I'll have to get it in gear though, no time for headaches and being out of commission. I seem to have appointments all over my calendar for this that and the other these days. So, if I miss any of your threads, I'm sorry and really things will calm down at some point I'm sure. I'll try to keep up though!!
hugs to all,
Sharlene and molly muffin
Oh no Sharlene, headaches will not do. I have enough migraines for the both of us!:o I hope you are feeling better now.
Maybe 3 mg twice a day of melatonin is too much? She is only a little dog. I take melatonin occasionally when I'm really keyed up at bedtime and have to go to work the next day. I only take 5 mg myself and it knocks me on my butt. Just thinking.:confused:
You are the party girl aren't you? What fun! I love to live vicariously through you.;):D xxxxx
hmm, I went with the dosage as given on the university of tenn site for atypical cushings and <30lbs. I did see someone else say their dog about the same weight maybe a tad more than molly is on 1.5mg am/pm. Maybe i should try splitting the pill? they say you need to give every 12 hours basically.
LOL My headaches are generally sinus/barometric pressure, weather related, but they can be doozies. My mom got migraines and those are just horrendously bad. Mine was pretty bad today but I don't think it even comes close to what those with migraines go through.
We do have our moments it's true. Some times it's very quiet and our most energetic activity is to get dressed on the weekend. Then others, it is just stuff going on constantly.
I like it as long as I get quiet time in between. I don't get very happy if too much is going on that affects molly though and these some of them at least will, she'll have to go the kennel so she doesn't over stress with too many people in the house and I don't like that. In fact, I cancelled a jaunt up to Ottawa for the weekend of the 16th because I couldn't stand to put molly in a kennel that often with the other things coming up and that is how I ended up saying, lets have some peeps over for a bbq here instead. These are molly people, so she will be fine with them. They are her buds too. She'll only have to go in if the stepdaughters insist on a kids party at our house while grandson is here, then I'd put in while that is going on, but if it doesn't happen then she'll be at home with all of us. She is fine with our grandson, but not with a bunch of kids running around being all crazy and playing having fun, she'd get way too worked up and I'd have to watch her every minute for her not to nip anyone or get stepped on or something.
Gads, I'm stressing just thinking about it! I don't know how other people do it and maintain calm and organization and safety.
lol
Sharlene and molly muffin
I'm thinking I'd like to go to a party at your house! Band. Caterers. You mean business. Lol. No more headaches! Have fun planning. Glad you found my Instagram. I posted you tube videos so you can see little man there too! Take care. Glad to hear Molly is enjoying her "treats".
My gut feeling tells me that Molly is getting too much melatonin if she's that out of it. I would personally try splitting the pill for a while and see if she is more alert. Hopefully others will pop in with their thoughts on this. There maybe a medical reason for the higher dosage.
I don't know how you keep up with your social calendar!:eek::eek:
xxxxx
Ok all.... I will make out the list of all of us who will be at Sharlene's LOL-then designate who brings what !! :D Bathing suits mandatory!!;)
Sharlene... hope you get Molly straightened out. Don't these pups of our keep us busy. I know there is nothing I can do now at all without making sure Keesh is involved. Have fun at all your social events. I'm hoping I can start just becoming more social once the headache of this house is out of the way. Never freakin worked so hard in all my life. I'm physically destroyed I think. Keesh gets his bum stitches out today.. (oh joy) and he continues to hang in there.
If you are trying to control the intermediates, UTK recommends 3mg 2x/day for a dog Molly's size. That is what Squirt started at then ended up taking 12mg 2x/day (per her IMS) before we stopped all meds. When I started these back, it was at 3mg 2x/day planning to build back up but we never did. She did fine with the melatonin after the initial adjustment period. Since UTK has done the research on this, I never thought to question the 3mg dose - I simply gave it believing it would help with her hormones, and it did. If it were me, I think I would contact UTK and see what they think - if they will talk with you. Since Dr. Oliver passed, they aren't as willing to interact with the "public" as he was but you never know. But if other pups have had a hard time adjusting surely they know this and can direct you a bit. Hopefully. ;)
Since the Mexican seems to be out, don't forget about the lobster! :D You could serve them on tostitos for a blended cuisine. :p
When I started Zoe on melatonin, I started her on 1mg twice a day for a few weeks, then slowly increased to 2mgs, for a week or two until we were at the 3mg mark. It made her a bit tired but she was not out of it.
Party! Party! Can I come early?:p:p:D:D:D:D
I had that same dang headache sinus stuff Tuesday, could not go to work and it is still lingering. Feel better, it is no fun.
Happy Friday!
Oh maybe I should have built up to the 3 like you did. She just shows no interest in anything but sleeping till after she has had it in her system for awhile. It's so weird. I thought she had adapted but maybe I was wrong. Sigh. Kids! She doesn't care to be in her window seat even. Ignores when someone stops by and we are outside talking even if there are dogs with them. This is not how Molly behaves even when she is sick.
My hubby had the headache this morning but mine is better. I felt bad for him since he had to go to the office. I just merged him and he said it is better now. So that is good.
Come early stay late. Works for me every time. LOL
Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin
I have a solution for you and Molly, I,ll fly over and do a bit of dog sitting for you while you party best of both worlds you get a stress free party life and I get Molly cuddles ..... Simples :D I can give you references if that helps lol
Awwww so sorry to hear you are under the weather Sharlene, hope Friday and the weekend gives your and hubs the chance to chill out and relax with Molly. BTW what did you do to hubby to "merge" him?? :eek::D
I bet it is the melatonin making Molly a bit snoozy. is it a pill you can safetly split or a capsule? I agree might be worth trialling a lower dose.
If Tracy and Addy are coming, I am too!!! Be such fun!!
When the melatonine wore off today she ran around like a wild thing with tons of energy. So I am guessing that is what is going on. Other difference is I gave her the Sam-e before bed instead of in the morning or mid day man it is hard to figure this stuff out.
Rofl. Message i meant. Hehehe. I was like what Is she talking about! You know me and the autocorrect thing. It is a disaster.
Now have been informed we have some Chinese Canadian art dance tv show gala thing to go to this Sunday. Totally mystified of what that is or what one wears to such a thing. It certainly isn't dull around here this month.
Off to fix dinner.
Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin
I was afraid to ask how you "merged" him. Lol :D:D:D
Glad that Molly is doing better today!:)
Sorry to hear that you too are under the weather. I hope you and hubby are feeling better soon, and he recovers from being 'merged'.
My hubby is currently jet-lagged after a long weekend trip to the UK to see family and pick up some new skates for me - he's been doing well, but I think he decided that once the weekend started he could relax / recover. I'm still not sure Henry actually noticed he was gone, although he was incredibly pleased to see him when he returned (hmmmm - maybe it was more the doggy chocs!).
I used to have reminders in my calendar for every pill Hamish took, and I tracked everything on spreadsheets and make notes of any changes. I know, I'm strange, but it was incredibly helpful in identifying the effects of the different meds, and organising the vets, etc. I miss doing that - I'd give anything to still have him around :(
Headaches are better. It is just sinus headaches caused by this cold/hot/cold/hot, wet weather that has been our non existent summer this year. Both hubby and I get them but usually more in the spring and fall when the weather patterns change and the barometric pressure goes up and down. We'll live! Thanks for the concern all. :)
Oh nice, he went and picked up some new skates for you while on his visiting trip. Now that is a good guy to have around. LOL Wow, though, a fast in and out to the UK is a doozy. I had mentioned going to Paris for a long weekend at some point and hubby was like, no way, not for that long of a flight, might has well stay at least a week if you are flying that long. So, kudos to your guy for going for it!
I know MC. We miss them so much when they aren't around. These furbabies with their medical issues are just such a huge presence in our lives that when they are no longer in it, it leaves a hole a mile wide that is hard to fill.
So, I am hoping that switching the sam-e 100 to night time will work and perhaps it will negate any interaction with the melatonin, which I really don't think there should be at all, but that was the only thing I had introduced in addition, which might have caused her to act more sleepy, not feeling great attitude. I know yesterday as soon as that melatonin started to wear off, right around 3:30 in the afternoon, it was like she had another gear in her body that went into on position. She ran, and ran and played and jumped and was having a great time. She was still going pretty good by the time came to give her the night time melatonin. I haven't seen that in a few days.
Here is the other thing I noticed in the last couple days. She is jumping well, legs working, don't see as much shaking and I think I can attribute that to the dasiquin she has been on, but that one step to the front door, she has been a bit hestitant coming up to it and twice she has misjudged the distance of the jump. Like she walks up to it and then jumps up the step. She use to fly over it. It doesn't seem to be an issue with her legs/joints, but maybe one of sight? Just wondering about that. I had her eyes checked and they said she had "older dogs" eyes in that they aren't as clear as they use to be, but that was all that was mentioned. She is only 11 1/2 years old (if it was true she was 11 months when we got her from the rescue) It is very weird because she'll spot a dog down the street from the window seat and see very well. So, wonder if it is things closer or why that would be. Do dogs get near/far sighted? I've never heard of it as in humans. She has always been freaky at night with shadows, etc. But that I put down to their black and white vision and how things look at night vs day time to an animal maybe. Wow, I'm just rambling on. I'm sure there is a logical reason for this thing and it's only been going on for about a week, so maybe it's nothing.
okay, back to regular scheduled programming! hahahah Hubs is having a guys night with his BFF who recently lost his dad. I think that will be really good for him. We all miss his dad, he was a heck of a person, so intelligent and kind. Flags flew at half mast at the University, the Canada aerospace program and NASA when he passed.
Here is an intereresting tidbit. We all know the movie Apollo 13 movie and how they showed the astronaut left behind solving the problem of how to disengage the module and have enough oxygen for the ones in space to survive and make reentry. That isn't exactly how that happened. Nasa, contacted my friends dad here in toronto, and him and a team of 6 from the space engineering department worked on that, figured it out and sent it to NASA. He said he thought at the time there were many teams working on the problem and then found out afterwards that no, it was only their team. He said he might not have been able to do it if he had known that going in. He still has/had a photograph that they had taken from that trip and all of them signed. He also worked on the design for the current space station canada arm that is used on the international space station and a whole host of other things, like satellite patents, etc. So like I said an interesting person and one that also leaves a big hole in all the lives of those who knew him. Just thought that was an interesting tidbit and not one that is widely known.
Here are two links from obits in local papers, if anyone is interested, I know it's not cushings related, it is just one of those things interesting and a part of my daily life stuff:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014...ead_at_96.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/techn...board/follows/
Back to daily activities now. Molly is having her morning snooze. :)
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
Pleased to hear you are feeling better today.
So sorry to hear about the passing of your hubby's friend's dad - he sounded like a great guy and will be very much missed.
I'm definitely not an expert on dog's eyesight, but one thing we noticed with Hamish was that sometimes wouldn't see something which was right under his nose (but would find it by sniffing), yet he could see something that was really far away, and we've seen the same occasionally with Henry. I remember reading somewhere that sporting dogs are usually far sighted, allowing them to spot prey, so I assume it's possible for other dogs to be near sighted, just like humans.
Hubby got lots of brownie points for getting the skates - I organised it all from here by tracing my feet, calling the store, etc. but it was worth it because I saved around 40%. I had to get them after the two foot injuries earlier this year :(
I am happy to hear you found the cause of Mollys apathy. and great to hear how she was acting like her adorable self again! I hope you are feeling better as well! My sympathies on your loss :(Quote:
Originally Posted by molly muffin
HUGS from Me Snugs & Branny
Wow what a legacy your friend's Dad has left for the world, his family must be very proud of him Sharlene. Still never easy losing anyone so my condolences to them and to your family too.
So pleased Molly is doing good, you know Flynn can happily trot up steps but the one into the house he is notoriously slow at getting in, dunno what is up with that either. Sometimes he boings over, others lifts up one leg at a time, when that happens I think his arthritis is bothering him. He has the cloudy eyes too, but we got the same answer as yours 'old dog eyes'. One test Mike showed me was to throw a cotton ball close to the face across line of vision, not hitting her and see if she reacts. So an easy one to do!
Haha on the daily activities, Flynn is copying Molly from a few hours back and is having his daily snooze too. It is the most gorgeous blue sky, with no breeze but a real heavy frost. So once it warms up I think we are in for a stunner! I quite like frosts now I know they get rid of fleas!! :D:D xx
So, I did my own test to see if it was the melatonin causing the change in her and it is. I skipped an evening dose, the next morning I gave 1.5mg and then in the evening 1.5 mg of melatonin and she was her normal self all day long, playing, snoozing periodically, but in general energetic most of the day like normal and back to the window seat.
I didn't stay there, I went back to the 3 mg x2 the next day but it does confirm that it is the melatonine making her out of it and just wanting to sleep and not be interested in anything around her.
I still have to check the eyes, so I'll try that cotton ball thing.
Tonight, I am hoping she is able to sleep through the storms we are suppose to have. You know how it is, if they are up all night scared, then the humans are darn well going to be up to. :) I think Jo Ann blew her storms up this way. LOL
hugs all
Sharlene and molly muffin
Hmmmmm.....So it was the melatonin. Did you go back to the 3mg. hoping she'll eventually adjust?
Yes, with all that Melatonin, Molly should sleep clear through those storms. ;)
Good job, Mom! I hope Molly adjusts to the dose soon!
I agree, Good job!!! Harley was petrified of thunderstorms, but when he started taking the melatonin his fear went away and he could sleep right through them, hope Molly experiences the same.
Yes I went back to the 3mg because that is recommended dosage if treating solely atypical cushings and IMS wants to see how she does on this. So, back we went.
Well, yes and no, she had a case of the nerves, but we weren't having thunder, just really torrential, hard rain at times, so up on the bed she came between hubs and me and we all went to sleep. Until her fur touched hubby, who came wide awake like a mad man and molly and I woke up to. I was like what on earth!!! So, I guess he'd been dreaming that fur wasn't a good interjection into dreamland. ROFL!! Anyway, molly had enough at that point and started to pant and I put her down to get water and she did and off she went to her own bed and we all went back to bed.
Not bad, I do think she was better on than off.
Does melatonine build up in the body? I'm curious that I thought she had a adjusted and then back to the lethargic state, then when off, back to normal.
hugs all,
Sharlene and molly muffin
I'm not sure. I know I had a pharmacist look it up because it bothered Zoe's eyes after awhile. She would be ok with a dose at bed time but after 3 nights, her eyes would get red so I could only give it to her 3 times a week.
Oh dear, that made me laugh. What a shock for poor hubs, then waking up like that.. probably took ages for all your heart rates to slow back down. Poor Molly having to go back to her own bed for peace LOL, that is cute though!
I did a quick google of the melatonin, it has a short half life of under an hour and total body clearance in 10 hours, that was in humans but I also read it was similar in dogs. Hope that helps xxx
hmm, so maybe not a build up, it just makes her sleepy. Okay, well, we can deal with that.
Today we have mucus poops this evening. Hopefully some pro-biotic will clear this up. Not really sure what caused it, nothing off that I can see.
Will see how tomorrow looks. Sometimes she just is off, as we all know from the years on this thread.
It's been crazy busy lately, with so much going on every weekend. Yesterday just to keep things interesting we had a van explode into flames a couple houses down from us and blocked off the street with police and fire services. Cutest little guy, about 4 years old though, dressed up as a fireman (his halloween costume) and charmed each and every police and fire man that was here. They all took pictures of him and with him. He was a happy little guy. :)
Hugs all,
Sharlene and molly muffin
Hi Sharlene,
I have been meaning to ask how Molly's been doing on the Melatonin..so it seems to be making her a little lethargic?
Those mucous poops!! :mad: Trixie had the same a couple days ago. Gave me the stare down around 1pm...a time she never goes out. I ignored her at first but she made me pay attention and take her out-- there it was. Not as bad as Trixie sometimes has but it was a not a good poop that's for sure. Luckily I have the metronidazole tabs and I give her half when this starts up...works right away thankfully.
Anyway that van that caught on fire sounds scary! Glad no one was hurt in your neighborhood. :)
Trying to catch up on the board..I've missed being here. My eyes are getting heavy so I guess I'll have to try to read more tomorrow. :p
aww I hope Molly's poop goes back to normal quickly. Is she adjusting to the melatonin yet? I hope so!
I may not be remembering correctly:o:o:o:o I thought melatonin made Glynda's Lulu lethargic and tired too.,
I hope poop patrol is over:):):):):)
Well, a bit of probiotic and some fiber and poops back to normal. :) yay!
Splitting headache tonight, we've been out since we got off work, looking for a lost little shih tzu. Didn't have any luck finding him, but I did get a positive confirmation that he was in the area we were looking in yesterday morning. We still have searchers out tonight so crossing fingers he is found. His foster mom is out there, little guy was adopted and immediately escaped from the adoptive family. I'm so irritated as they aren't even out looking for him. :( The rest of us, along with our local humane society (whom he was fostered and adopted through) though are looking.
I have to wait an hour to give molly her sam-e and she won't be getting her melatonin tonight as our schedules are all off, since hubby and I were both out on the search. I'll be taking some headache med and then heading to bed as soon as I can give molly her meds.
hugs all,
Sharlene and molly muffin
Hey Sharlene, did they find the little guy?
Well yes and no. About midnight I got a text that they has located the muddy little black dog and rescued him, but it was not the one we were looking for but yet another.
Isn't that awfully sad to think that there are several little black and white dogs (shih tzu's and they are so small :( )running around scared. This little guy will be taken in, cleaned up, an appeal put out by the humane society for owners to come forward, and he will be put into foster. Either he will be returned to owners or adopted out.
I spoke with the guy who tried to catch him for an hour sunday morning. The dog was on it's driveway, very scared and skittish, but seemed to be familiar with people, looking for his people maybe, and not willing to let any others touch him. The girl (the foster mom of the dog who is missing) is who found him and she is very good with animals and was able to get him, so on that note I'm very happy, but I hate to think of gizmo still missing. Nothing new today and he has been missing since last wednesday, so a bit nerve wrecked here. The foster mom has been out every day from early morning till late at night, door canvasing the areas, putting up posters, whatever can be done.
The adopted family will Not be getting him back if he is found. They didn't place him in a secure area and keep watch on him till he settled in and then they have not joined in looking for him once he went missing. I am beyond furious at them.
Thanks for asking
Sharlene and molly muffin
So glad Mollys poop are good now YAY wish mine were LOL been having a stomach virus since Friday :(
Poor scared lost babies I hope you find em.
But glad you found the other and now he is safe and will be well taken care of. WHAT is wrong with some people! I will never understand them.
Pleased to hear that Miss Molly's poops are back to normal, but what terrible news about that poor little dog. I can't believe that the adoptive family weren't out looking for him - at least they won't get him back if he is found, and hopefully they won't be getting any other dog either.
I really hope they manage to find him - I can't remember where I read it but I remember hearing of a dog that was lost somewhere in Southern Ontario, and it was reunited with it's owner after 10 days - despite a lot of sightings near major highways it appeared to be totally unscathed.
They certainly won't be getting any from the local humane society, but there are plenty of rescues and they don't all check with each other.
He ran into a wooded area behind a mall and that is where the coyotes were seen, so there is some concern as to his safety. So far no news.
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Sharlene and molly muffin