Zoe By My Side- Our Journey with Cushings

Hoping for good results. Are you definitely giving the tramadol or are you going to wait and see how she is doing?

I'm hoping for positive results.

hugs
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Dear Addy
I can only give you my experience, strength and hope.
I pray for you and Zoe.
Like Zoe, Apollo tried so hard to do what he no longer could, and for me I felt the Ivermectin, Advantage, and too many antibiotics, did him in. His little body could not take it anymore. The month before he died his intestines were fine, the next month when I knew something was wrong they found lesions through out his intestines, suggesting cancer. I am still baffled why?
Hold Zoe, love her , comfort her.
Hugs Sonja and Angel Apollo
Zoe knows you have been there all the way to love, support, and care for her. Focus on that.

Zoe is 17 pounds so her rescue dose is about 2mgs. Her IMS wanted her to take 2.5 mgs once per day for 3 days but if that caused too much drinking and peeing back down to 1/4 tablet.

I think she will need the tramadol tonite to sleep so, I am giving it to her tonight. So far I can't say I see any improvement today except we went out for pizza and came home and she got got herself up and walked to the door. She has not done that for a week or more. She really isnt drinking a bunch of water from it.

They keep bringing up bone cancer which is why I think I cant get it out of my mind, Trish. They said it would be invasive and most likely inconclusive to biopsy it. They just know it is NOT arthritis. That they were exact about.

Not sure what plan B will be come Tuesday.

Addy, I will gladly take that as an improvement as I know Ginger wouldn't bother greeting me at the door if she doesn't feel good.
As far as drinking and peeing go due to prednisone, though both will definitely do increase they don't keep going up and up. They sort of go up and stay at a certain level as she isn't becoming back to Cushingoid overnight with her low cortisol right now. If she doesn't usually have accidents in the house you just have to take her out more frequently and maybe Zoe can use diapers during nights. Ginger pretty much wears diapers 24/7 as she seems to have forgotten to go outside to do her business anymore and there's no certain intervals and I know this problem is not related to Cushings.
She wears them to bed not because she goes during night but when she wakes up in the morning she can't make it to the door. You can check it out on her album and they really do stay on unlike all others I've tried. These diapers have lowered my level of frustration hugely.
I hope Zoe perks up.:)

Addy, can you please tell me when Zoe's ACTH stim test was done before this latest one? I went back as far as 12/21/13 ( my eyes are burning now) and I didn't see any results of stim tests unless I missed it and what I saw in Zoe could be a bad reaction to drug overdose though I know she has other issues.
I probably don't know what I'm talking about here and I don't know how to sugar coat things so I am going to flat out come out and going to say what what I'm going to say with my simple mind and shallow knowledge in cushings, you know they say courage ( ?) comes from ignorance. After reading your recent posts tonight I'm left wondering when not really knowing Zoe's stim results you were still trying to lower her cortisol along with other pain pills when in fact there was a chance they were already too low and she could have been functionally Addison's like my Ginger at some point. Lethargic, weak legs.. You said her electrolytes are good, right? Experiencing this with Ginger I think I see a similarity in both girls. From reading your posts I really think Zoe was responding to lower doses of Vetoryl as Ginger did to prednisone. I'm not saying Zoe has gone into Addison's but I don't think her adrenals are making enough reserves right now to deal with stress going by her latest ACTH test. I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud here because I just couldn't shake off this thinking the whole time I was reading tonight. Please, throw everything out of your mind if I'm so off the mark here. I mean all you guys on here are with all the experience and her symptoms can't be this easy enough for me to form an opinion I'm thinking.:o

Addy:
Praying for all of you to come thru this and for Zoe to get better. Song you are doing a great job trying to find ways to help, you are wonderful for helping others. Blessings
Patti

Song, thank you so much for trying to help. Zoe has been on Vetoryl since June 2010. She had been on the same dose for about 1.5 years. We knew we would most likely have to lower her dose which I started to do in November. It is a long story with almost 3 years of stims:o:)

There are multiple problems with Zoe. She has a lot going on, lots of balls to juggle as you can see from her mega paged thread.:o:o

Thank you and you keep posting away with ideas. After all, we are all here to learn from each other, that is what this forum is all about.:):)

Thank you Addy. My heart is aching for you and sweet Zoe and I'm just trying to help in any way possible by throwing ideas from my own experience with my baby. We are all praying for Zoe while holding our breath and waiting for a good news that she is doing better. I hope she is doing better today than yesterday. One day at a time. :)

One day at a time, lots of ups and downs, Song. I have followed Ginger' story. I know what you too are going through.

Last night Zoe definetly tried to walk around the house -more like she was before the trip to ER only problem is that leg is so bad, she pants and pants so. She struggles more at night when she does not have the tramadol during the day.

When I took her off Veotryl for 3 days in December, it took until the third day to see results with her front leg but her front leg was nowhere near as bad as it is now and she did not have that back leg issue then either.

I guess I am trying to gauge if it is inflamation in her spine affecting that back leg and her front leg, would I see a bit of improvement maybe today after her second dose of pred?

I think I read antii nflamatory dose is 1-3 mgs per pound divided twice a day so maybe this is dose is not enough for that though one would think I would see something.

I will pray you will figure out her leg problems soon enough. Zoe has suffered too long of a time now. I will be sooo happy when she is able to walk or run around the house flowing her long hair as she deserves to be. Hugs to you and sweet Zoe. Gotta get ready for work. ;)