Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Hi Everyone:
Donna thank you for all the moral support you give me for Tipper. This is hard as you know with her being scared all the time. Last nite was one of Tipper's worst nites. It was a bad storm. We were both up all nite, and I acted like nothing was wrong. I turned ont he tv and listened for Tipper as she was panting her head off and scared to death. I ignored her and I am so sorry I did at one point the panting got so bad I thought she would have a heart attack. She will never go out potty when it is storming, but she need out and I did not realize it. I took her out and diarrhea just squirted out of her, she could not stop going even though she was scared to death outside. My poor girl really had the worst time. Then she had poop on her put and snapped at me for trying to clean it. She was so upset it was horrible to watch. The herbs I think are becoming ineffective on her or not lasting long enough. She held that diarrhea for a half an hour and never went in this house. She is an amazing dog, but I am needing some way to help her. I inquired about a sound proof kennel that has air circulation that she could sleep in and not hear all this, it is clear so she can see out. the company is in the UK but they have yet to answer my email inquiring about it. I am desperate. I gave her no Vetoryl this morning for two reasons. One she is sick, and two I want her cortisol to come up a tad to help her with this stress. These storms may be here until Thursday. I may ask the vet to give her a valium and sit in front of his office in the car for an hour or so to see if she has a reaction. This needs addressed she cannot go on like this or it will kill her I am sure her heart cannot take this wither blood pressure skyrocketing, and then her eyes. I am scared of that too. Please God let it be calm today. I can barely stay upright today, I cleaned the house yesterday and was up all nite and I am exhausted. Tipper did eat this morning and did walk for me. If she has no more diarrhea and we have no more storms before morning I will give her the Vetoryl in the morning. I am sure her cortisol is up after last nite. Please pray for her that these storms go away and she can be calm. Thank God for one thing Toby did not start barking at the thunder, he was too tired. Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti & Tipper
Poor baby girl having thunder and diarrhea all at the same time. Have you tried the Rescue Remedy yet? It is exhausting to be up all night worried about your pup. Do try to take care of yourself as well as Tipper. You are in my thought today. Hugs Angelique

Thank you for thinking of us Angelique. We are now having another round of storms. The thunder will not let up. I just gave Tipper herbs and she is in the closet. This poor baby, my heart aches to see her like this, and I am worried what
all this is doing to her. I hope it goes away soon! Blessings
Patti

That sounds quite awful Patti! Poor Tipper, she must have been so upset to get the runs. Stress for sure.
I do hope that these storms stop. You've just been swamped lately. :(

thinking of you both
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
Well the storm is done for now. I gave Tipper a good dose of herbs and she stayed in the closet. I just saw the weather report saying that we are going to get tornadic weather coming from the west with real bad winds tomorrow afternoon. Tipper did just go out on the porch with me for awhile and we did bubbles, but she is panting already from no Vetoryl this morning. It is to get cooler tomorrow. My vet may have to step up and do something here as she goes in the morning.I can't believe how strong Tipper's symptoms are. Every time I have stopped her Vetoryl she starts with the symptoms so quickly. I just saw a bulletin on the weather saying out west is having really bad weather and tornadoes coming this way! Great! Blessings
Patti

i am sorry for you and tipper that the weather is so bad lately.
we are getting temperatures up to 30 C [85-90 F].
these are causing thunderstorms too.
i agree you need something stronger than herbs to control tipper's fear.
if the storms permit you to drive safe tomorrow, you can ask the vet for it.
the effects of extreme stress are worse than a tranquilizer i guess!
this can not go on for tipper [and you of course]

Hi Everyone:
Just a short post as I have to take Tipper for her Adequan shortly. Tipper is developing the habit of sleeping in the closet. I don't exactly like it, but I think she is gun shy because of all the storms we have had day after day, she feels she does not want to get caught out of the closet and it starts thundering. So last nite was at least peaceful. I am going to go over this with the vet again today. Hope he has time to discuss the Chinese Herbs!! I have to get him in a good mood. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone:
WE are back from the vets with no blood pressure done as Tipper got riled up at Toby before we left the house and she was nervous in the car because the weather is ready to get bad and she can sense it. I di however talk the vet into valium. If that is good or bad remains to be seen today. I was going to give her one and sit in his office which he thought was a real good idea. Then I thought if I do this and then the storm comes this afternoon, she cannot have another one. So I opted out of that. His other office is open later if need be, as she could have an allergic reaction. I told him what happened the other nite and said I can't watch this anymore, this anxiety with everything else she has going on is going to kill her and I have worked so hard to keep her here. He finally gave in, but was hesitant as I am too. There is just simply nothing else left, I have tried it all, and there is no other options. I pray to God I am not sorry for giving this to her if I have to. She got her Adequan and we discussed my theory of the vitamin b12 and the tremors. He said it could be possible as the dogs get older they have less of it, he said he will research it- probably 4 years form now! Then I started to ask him about the Chinese herbs, he said I am not ready for that argument today, do that next week please!! Crap!! You can only go so far with him and he explodes. He also said several of the fatty cysts Tipper has have to come off. I said if you put her under than I would want he teeth cleaned and get it all as I will not do it again. The one by her ear is bad, she must have at least 7, 4 of which are bad . Has anyone had anything removed like this? I am wondering if these will heal ok, as I am not wanting to start any skin issues as she has enough going on now. So please some opinions on this please. There would be my vet and another vet working on her at the same time, so I am fairly comfortable that with two vets they could handle an emergency situation if one should arise. The other vet is younger an d I like him, he is very innovative and intelligent. I think it will be in July as she is due for blood work and ACTH then and we could use the blood work to make sure all is well before putting her to sleep. Does anyone think it is possible to do the ACTH then too, as she would not be stressed out from it, or would that not ne possible when she is under?? God I hate Cushings, our lives were so much easier and simplified before all this. I have to go though I know I do. Blessings
Patti

Hi Everyone;
Well this storm was supposed to blow in here around 4pm. It really cooled down though and I saw on the weather that cooler temps came in and we may not get the storm, just rain-YAHOO. The next threat is Sunday. So we will be ok for a few days- Yipeee I do not want to have to use these pills and will wait until the last minute to do it, but it gives me a certain security knowing she won't be crazy and making herself sick over the storms anymore. It is a low dose 2mg of valium, so I hope it works and does not give her reaction problems. Lucky is pretending he is stalking the birds while I type this. He chatters his teeth at them, but one bird in particular I noticed he makes a different sound at. I am disappointed we did not get to go over the herbs at Tipper's appointment, but he is just hard to deal with so next week I will hit him with the print outs I made. I have to up and out of here early and be at the hospital for my echo tomorrow so the dog sitter is employed once again. I am hoping to get some feed back on Tipper's lumps having to come off and what you all have seen as far as healing on Cush dogs??? I hope my Tipper has a good nite. Toby already fell asleep as it looks dark out and he must think it's nite time. I just saw the lower part of the state is going to get the bad weather so I hope we are safe. Blessings
Patti

Hi Patti, did you get the storms today? Did you try the valium? if so how was Tipper? Hope no allergic reaction and it helped her if needed.

I have never heard of an ACTH while they were under anesthesia. I don't think I would do it, simply because I don't think I'd want to risk anything else while they were also under anesthesia and they do have to inject that agent into them, which dumps cortisol into their body, however much that may be. I just don't like that risk. I'd do the ACTH before the removal of lipomas so you know where her cortisol is at.

I think if they have uncontrolled cushings, then it can take longer to heal, but with controlled cushings I'd hope that it would heal better. Since you always have to worry about infections with cushings, I think as long as you get it cleaned out and any antibiotic ointment or antibiotics that they want to have her on, even if they start before, which often they do with teeth cleaning It should be okay.

If I remember correctly Tipper doesn't have an enlarged liver, so that should be one less thing to worry about. Of course the vets have to be aware of her heart murmur nd monitor her closely, but I expect they have dealt with that before?

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin