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Hi Patti, glad you got some good news from your vet finally on something! LOL Great to know that the herb mixture is a winner and can be given more often If needed. Also that the worry for surgery can be put on the back burner hopefully for a long time, so long that in fact it never becomes an issue.
What is the size of Tippers tumor? I know you said it increased by only .31 which is very little indeed.
Mollys tumor is 1.30cm x 1.26cm. Do they think Tippers tumor is secreting cortisol too in addition to the pituitary tumor or do they think it is just perhaps a nodule non functioning on the gland?
It sure does take a wallop out of you doesn't it. Try to get some rest, enjoy the walks between rain and hopefully NO thunder. :)
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin
Hi Everyone:
Now I am back at the upset stage. The IMS just answered me and most of the answers were what I expected except this one. I asked her what were the chances of this tumor rupturing? She said you never know it could embolize, or rupture and I could lose my Tipper and could I live with that decision?? That made me sick at my stomach quite frankly. Also she said the Dr. that owns the hospital that would do the surgery has done at least 300 of these operations. I need some guidance here as I am right back to worrying now. The smaller the tumor the less chances of problems. She said if this tumor is active removing it could help control Tipper better. Blessings
Patti
the woman with whom i share the vetoryl went to the veterinarian university in nl. with her cush dog to have a ct scan to determine if she needed an operation.
depending on how the dog is actualy doing, they do not operate under 2.5 a 3 cm. as long as the dog is doing fine.
surgeons always want to operate, that is their job.
i do not like the way they scare you like this or doing a guild trip on you for deciding not to operate tipper before you know the numbers of the next us. tippers tumor is groing very slowly so far.
she is feisty and can handle long walks, so she is in pretty good shape for her age and illness.
so i think your vet was right about the 3 a 3.5 cm. at least it is also the dutch scale. [this uni is famous for their cush knowledge!]
hope this facts can give you some hope that tipper does not need an operation right now.
Well I am not impressed with that IMS's wording. I'll ask my IMS when I talk to her about this very same thing.
I'm not inclined to do surgery just yet either. Trish's Flynn has a nodule on his remaining adrenal gland too and it hasn't grown or changed in over a year. Tippers has changed a very small bit, if at all.
I don't know what the answer is Patti. I wish I did. As you know, I'm in a similar situation and I don't know what to do either. Right now I am thinking two things, that it is small enough that I can wait and redo ultrasound in a couple months and see if it is changing and it is small enough that if I were going to operate, it is less risky to operate on a small tumor than a large one.
However I still can't accept the possibility of she might not make it out of the hospital and you have to be right in your head and your heart, that the decision to operate is the right decision for your baby. I'm not there yet. I might be and who know, I might not be, might not ever be, I just don't know, but I Do know, you don't go into surgery unless you are sure it is what is best, or if anything goes wrong, then the devastation would be unbearable.
So, that being said you cannot let any IMS or anyone guilt you into doing something that isn't right in both your head and your heart. If you determine that this is what you think is Tippers best chance, then you have to come to terms with it prior to doing any surgery and make sure you are at peace with the decision before going forward.
I don't say any of this to discourage you or point you in any specific direction, because I'm probably the least best person to choose for anyone being in the same boat myself. I do say these things because based upon the time that I have known you and the bond that I see between you and Tipper and how very heavily, your own health and well being is tied to hers, I would not want you to do anything for other than the right reason and if that decision is to do surgery, then I would want to know that you are absolutely okay with having made it.
You absolutely Have to be able to accept that you have made the best decisions possible and are okay with any consequences of those decisions going forward. You have done exactly that, every step of the way on this journey and I don't want you to stop doing so at this point. It really only matters, no matter what you decide, that you are at peace with whatever decision you make.
I'm leaning towards monitoring in 3 months redoing ultrasound at this point, based on size, location and my not being at peace with surgical decision right now.
I know this is long winded and I have probably said the same thing in a dozen different ways. So, I hope I haven't bored you to death or said anything to further upset you. Your health cannot withstand much more of this pressure Patti.
Sending you big hugs and strength.
Today you found something that helps Tippers thunder fears. That is a big baby step worth celebrating. For tonight, that is all there is. Another storm to be survived.
hugs
sharlene and molly muffin
Patti,
I would wait and see if the tumor grows or something else changes. I wouldn't rush into surgery. Hugs.
I'm certainly no expert on this but a small, slow growing tumor does not sound like a tumor that would be poised for a rupture, and how often does this actually happen? Is that a common occurrence for a tumor like this? If it were something growing fast or very large..well maybe then it would be more of a possibility.
It seems to me surgery would pose the greater chance of difficulty for Tipper and much more of a risk than leaving this alone for a few months and seeing if it grows or changes in any way.
Trish's specialist just spoke with her about nodules and said that nodules can exist on any organ and sometimes they are just there..small growths that come with age and don't do anything, at least this is what I took from what she wrote..I may not have it exactly as written. Do you know for sure if this is even an active tumor..perhaps it's a benign nodule or growth.
I understand if you ask a vet or a doctor any "could this happen" question that you have to expect the answer will most likely be "it could happen"..because they can never say for certain that something won't happen. If you ask the same questions about the surgery you are going to get the same scary answers. It's a tough decision but the question is, right now which is the bigger risk?
Barbara
Ditto, Barbara.
Patti, you should ask your IMS this question and see what her answer might be this time. What are the fatality rates between adrenalectomy (during and post surgery) and slow growing, small adrenal nodule ruptures and which poses a greater risk to a dog?
Hi Everyone:
Thank you, Barbara, Song, and Sharlene for the input. Please read on Sharlene's thread what I think about this so I do not have to type it again. I am curious who thinks this is the best thing to do and why? Maybe thinking not the best thing, please tell me your opinion, it does matter to me. Tipper slept a lot yesterday and that made me nervous. She never does that, and it seems her rear leg may be bothering her a bit. I had to corner her this morning to get the Benadryl in. Last nite she would not let me do that or the drops. I must go to the store in a bit and get the tablets. It is too be 85 today and I probably will have to turn the air on for Tipper so I must get a new furnace filter in after all this housecleaning I did I surely do not want to blow dust around. I am going to tackle another room today so I will post later. Blessings
Patti
Hi Everyone:
The sadness I feel today is just crippling. I was up most of the nite thinking and praying for Leslie and Squirt. Tipper did not sleep well, and was swallowing mucous a lot and clearing her throat. I gave her a tablet of Benadryl but it did not to help for some reason. I think this is the reason her breath started to smell.. I have to find out from the vet next week if there is anything else to get and rid of this mucous that is safe for her. The dogs have walked, and yesterday I had to turn the air on because it was 85 and Tipper started to pant. I am thinking about my trip to Pittsburgh Tuesday and really do not want to go. In have one more room cleaned, and 1 to go plus the cat room. I am so welled up with sadness today it is hard to function. I think I will stay the course with Tipper until the next ultra sound and see what it brings. I surely hate this disease, especially today. Blessings
Patti