My Pug Scoop (Precious Scoop has passed... )

Vicki:
Have faith and keep praying. Tipper and I are praying for you and Scoop.

Thank you so much. I hold you and Tipper in my thoughts and prayers also. You are doing such a wonderful job with Tipper.
Big hugs.

A few weeks ago Scoop's vet asked me to measure his water for 3 days. It was between 10-16oz. I kept measuring. Then for a week or so it was between 18-27oz. I told the vet and she said as long as it isn't steadily 27oz and over, it's normal. Wed. he drank 24oz, Thurs. 15oz., Fri. 120z. It seems strange it increased for a while now it went back down. I take Scoop out to pee after he eats in the morning and when we come in he usually goes back into the kitchen to get another drink. Then he waits for me to put him on the recliner. This morning he didn't do that. He stayed on his bed. So I asked him if he wanted to go on the "big chair". He stood up and I picked him up like I always do. I wrap my arms around him and put my head to his and give him a kiss and tell him I love him so much. When I picked him up this morning he left out a yelp or cry or something. Just very briefly but he also turned his head and I could feel his mouth on my face. He did not bite. He never has. Something must have bothered him when I picked him up. Don't know what to make of it.

Hi there

I think that we drive ourselves a bit potty looking for every little sign in case we should be doing something.

Was the food different in the week Scoop drank more as different foods have different moisture contents

You could have just pinched his skin when you picked him up :)

For reading through your thread your vets seems as unhelpful as mine, if you think Scoop is off then keep going on till they listen. They are quite happy to take our money so they should have to work for it.

I did all the running for Tia as well and that's not right they should be educating themselves

Hope Scoop is snoring loudly in his recliner now

Mel and Tia x x

Thanks Mel. He did change foods recently. Not sure if it was same time or not, it's possible.

I keep thinking something hurt him inside when I picked him up. Never thought of the possiblilty of pinching him.

Like I said on your thread, I think the vet avoided me the other day. I was bending over to take Scoop's harness off for his weight check and when I stood up I saw her back as she was going through the door behind the reception desk. Unless she dropped something off up front and I missed it but it seemed so strange. There was a lady in the waiting room without her pet. When we got onto the car, I could see through the window. It looked like the vet sitting in the waiting room, turned sideways like she was talking to the lady that was sitting there. Maybe I'm wrong but that's the impression I got. I always feel rushed when she calls me. Sorry for rambling. I guess I'm so angry that my Scoop has so many problems. In the beginning I asked her if she wanted to refer us to a specialist. She said she would let me know if she couldn't handle it. She's always telling me now how busy she is and I don't doubt it. Just frustrating.

Scoop used to snore a lot before he got Cushing's but very seldom now. He doesn't bark much but if he does it is high pitched. That's something that has changed in him since the start of Cushing's. He is sleeping in the recliner. Raleigh is right there, too.

Big hugs.

I can relate. I am not a violent person but I could have swung for my vet a few times! I never switched because of circumstances something I will wonder on for a while. Waiting for them to call is just the worst feeling

If you think this vet is the best care for scoop stay but if you think you can get someone better than move. It's a tough enough disease to deal with and having a crappy vet just adds to the stress

Take care of yourself

Mel and Tia x x

Vicki:
You poor thing I am so sorry you are experiencing so many problems. Does Scoop have any issues with his rear legs? Maybe some arthritis and he was hurting when you picked him up?? There are just so many darn things that go wrong from this disease that it will be hard to pin point. I would try to lay him down and touch and move his legs etc. very gently, and see if you have a reaction. Does he have any back issues?? I think my Vet gets the award for the crappiest Vet. I do all the work and research and he does nothing except collect the money. I can never count on him for a straight answer. I always double check what he tells me. I kept telling him for 2 months now that Tipper's eyes look different to me, and is something wrong. His answer is old age. So before my dog goes blind or something I am taking her to Pittsburgh to the Opthamologist. I am not trying to spend money but this is on my mind, and I need a definite answer- not she's getting old. I go on March 1st. so this will either put my mind at rest, or uncover another problem. I am praying it is not the later of the two. I just feel not knowing, and having something starting that could potentially be corrected if you caught it early is the best method for me and Tipper. God Bless you and Scoop. I hope he starts to go uphill and feel better.

Hi Vicki,
One thing I will definitely say is that Scoop has so much going on that I would probably switch him to a specialist for his primary care. I just don't know how any general practice vet can stay on top of his situation.
I asked my vet about a specialist and that was a definite not going there response, or that she would consult the specialist. So, some consulting on the forum and back I went and said, I want a referral to a specialist for a consult. Not do you think, or can you call, etc, just I'll take her, you give me a referral. They charged me $75. for the referral and then of course seeing the specialist is a larger charge than a regular vet visit, however, in my mind, it was worth it, because then I could speak to them myself and have a conversation which was quite a bit different than the conversation that I had with the vet. It's just night and day in my mind.
So, that is some things to think of. You can check to see if Scoop is having any reaction if you gentle press on any areas of his body, otherwise, yes it could be a pinch, but with Scoop, geez, it's hard to tell. I'd do some running my hands over his body and sees if he shows any particular sensitivity to any area.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

I think you would feel better if you saw a specialist. hugs, Judi

I did not wait or ask for a referral with Zoe, I just called myself and told them I wanted an appointment and why and that I was not going through my vet. Our IMS charges no more for a recheck than our GP vet charges for an office visit, either does the opthalmologist. The initial consultations are more yes, but rechecks are not for us.

Some things an IMS may not be good at, mine tells me straight out she is not good about skin problems.

Vicki, it might be a really good idea to just check it out on your own, not through your vet and see what you may come up with for Scoop. I will admit, Zoe seldom sees her GP and I think that may bother him, we always go straight to the Specialist Clinic , they have every kind of doctor you would want and then her IMS is right there as well. The only vet they dont have is a derm vet, wish they would get one. But I do check in with the GP here and there and he gets copies of all the reports.