Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Hi Everyone:
Another really bad nite for Tipper. She was up and down all nite. Last nite she kept at me for more food. Then she finally went to sleep after I gave her the melatonin. I read it is good for seizures and I read it is bad for seizures so what the __ do you do?? Well she slept a bit then she was up roaming around and I could not sleep. This went on all nite. I could strangle my vet for making us suffer like this. I will be there first thing Monday demanding these drugs to help her, I will not leave without them. She was up for the day at 4:00 and I am dead. I am actually dizzy from not enough sleep and sick at my stomach. I know she cannot help herself, but my vet could have prevented all of this. She is drinking tons of water too, and ravenous and her cortisol is low so it is not that it is the thyroid, I would be my life on it. I will have meds come Monday or you will see it on the news that Cush mother strangles her vet. I have heard nothing from the rescue for Grace. I need to get her out of one room so after I talk to the IMS I will reach a decision on what to do for her. Tipper needs to be my focus right now as she is really suffering from this. I am ready for a fight on Monday so he better look out. I do not like to see my Tipper in distress and this is all his fault. Blessings
Patti

I'm so sorry to hear Tipper isn't well and your vet is leaving you hanging. Is there another vet near you, you can see instead of this one?

I am praying Tipper feels better soon and your vet calls immediately.

Hi Patti,

I hope that you can get the meds for Tipper and that they make a difference for her and for you.

Sorry that you haven't heard any more from the rescue about Grace. Lets see what the IMS tells you about the risk to your cats.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hi Everyone:
I forgot to add to the scenario of Tipper not feeling well that Tipper is not like you average dog when wanting something. She actually scratched me badly in the face this morning for me to get up at 4am. She did not mean it but she is so tenacious that you will not sleep or do anything when she wants something. She digs at you, jumps at you, scratches at you barks, digs the carpet, keeps drinking more water if she gets no food. You just cannot tell her no or lay down it won't do when she is in this state. She used to listen so well too. This has turned her into a crazy dog. I feel so bad when she does all this, it makes me cry. I just cleaned the house as I will never get it done if she keeps me up one more nite. I am with Grace for a while now. I am hoping I can figure something out on her behalf without jeopardizing my boys. Chance is 13 and could not handle any health problems now. Wish I had a huge room all to itself that she could be in and look out the window and maybe that would suffice for her, but I do not. It would have to be my cat room and my boys know that is their room. Blessings
Patti

Patti,

I have to say this but you might need to crate Tipper at night so that you can get some rest. It might also help to retrain her out of this scratching behavior which is not good. I know that it sounds mean, but honestly it will bother you more I think.

I have to agree with Valerie on this one. You need to get some rest whether Tipper sleeps or not. If not at night, then during the day. I know that it is hard. Buddy went several weeks without resting well at night. I couldn't sleep either. I was beyond exhausted. You need to find something that works for both of you. I laid on the floor many nights right by Buddy's bed, so he could touch me. That helped him settle and rest. I would crawl back in bed after I was sure he was asleep. Sometimes he would settle quickly. Other times, he couldn't settle at all, so I would stay on the floor all night. If crating Tipper is the ony way you are able to get some rest, then do it. She probably won't like it, but she'd be safe. XXXXXX

i do agree with the others on crating tipper or let her roam the room if she wants too. why is it that she has to stay on the bed? can't she sleep on a doggy bed/stretcher or something like that.
my flynn had a very low thyroid level, but never showed any of this behavior.
we are all worried about you. what if she e.g. damages your eye when scratching your face? we know you love tipper very much, but if you collapse, who will take care of them all?

Hi Patti,
Does this seem to be "off" behavior from Tipper? That just doesn't sound good to me, that even not meaning to that she would be so aggressive towards You of all people.
You know that we all worry about you and Tipper.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Patti, I am going to add my voice to everyone elses. I don't post a lot on your thread, but I have been reading along. I am worried about you, and Tipper seems to be changing somewhat in her personality.

If her getting up and down off the bed is an issue, have you thought about just putting your mattress on the floor (getting rid of the bed frame) for a while, just so she can move around and you can try to sleep without being up too?

Hi Everyone:
This is a late post as I had to sit with Tipper for a while after getting home from the vets. He asked me how things were going and I just burst into tears. I told him Tipper is really off. All of the behavior she is exhibiting are symptoms of thyroid problem, including the personality change and aggressive behavior. I told him I did not want to wait for the tests to come back from Michigan and that I wanted him to start her on thyroid meds at 1/2 the normal dose. I gave him all the reasons why the 1/2 dose and he looked at me and very smartly said "don't school me in thyroid I am an expert." I said well in that case why did you not see this coming from the last 12 blood tests done?? He said "I have gone along with everything you have wanted, but I am not giving medication to a dog that does not need it ." I said what about all the other things you would nto help me with including the Cushings I had to fight with you to get you to test her as you blamed it on a hundred other things, and I was right wasn't I ??? He was quiet, I said what about the Reticulocytes I was right about that too, what about the tracheal issues I was right about that too, I said I can go on and on. I said do you actually think knowing how much I love and protect this dog I would ask you to do something to harm her? He said "No" Then he said he would call Michigan to see if they could tell him anything, and a tech called him in the back room. He came out holding the test results from Michigan. They were there and no one told me!!! She has low thyroid function, and he did not even look at my face when he said it cause he knew what I was going to say. I told him I wanted a half normal dose of Soloxine for Tipper and he agreed. I showed him printed in black and white from Long Beach Medical how you cannot give a full dose to a Cushings dog. He had an attitude as the girls in his office saw he was wrong and I guess that embarrassed him. Too bad I thought just give me the medicine and let me get away from you before I haul off and slug you. Tipper was up all nite last nite, panting, drinking, and whining which she never does. I made up my mind this morning I was bringing home meds no matter what. She was so riled up in his office I even forgot to get what her Bp reading was as I record it when I get home on her chart. I will call later. I gave Tipper her first dose at 10:00 so she is past the time if she was going to be allergic to it thank God. I will see how this goes in a few days if she is able to sleep and calms down. I also told him her pre number on cortisol is low and it might be nice if he called Dechra. I will post the rest late as I want to keep and eye on her. I am waiting for emails from the neurologist, IMS and a call from the cardiologist so it should be a busy day for me. The roads were bad this morning too and it is snowing a fine snow. Blessings
Patti