Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Hi Everyone:
I sent the nutritionist some things that Tipper has eaten that maybe she can build on, as she just informed me that Tipper's dog food does have some grains that are worse than the brown rice she used to eat. So if the rice is healthier and she can eat it she can build something with that and the chicken and green beans and carrots she has eaten in the past with no problems. After hearing how little calories she is taking in and gaining weight it is imperative to get this straightened out. She does need some kibble at nite before bed though as many have said on here there dogs get an acidy stomach. I hope to hear from my vet on how soon we can do her blood and get it sent to Jean Dodd's. If she has an underactive thyroid that could account for the weight gain. So we shall see. In the mean time the healthiest diet that does not upset her is what she needs. No wonder she has been hungry all the time. The vet said she was eating too much, well I guess that is not true as she is eating too little. I am very concerned for her health so I need to get her straightened out here as soon as possible. Tipper has not eaten a lot of meats during her time. Mainly just chicken, so hopefully this will keep her happy and feeling full instead of being hungry all the time. I know if it was me being hungry all the time I would not like it one bit, so I can't expect her to do it either. I am just praying and waiting to hear some news on Woody. Hope everyone prays for him. Blessings
Patti

my ian had tremors [over his whole body] before using vetoryl instead of afterwards. they have gone since the day he got the vetoryl strange maybe? o, well there is one difference : he also got more foodmoments/ day since than because of the pills he needed. . he is on BARF his whole life and got only one big meal/day. those are the only things that changed: the vetoryl and more snacks. so far [on vetoryl for 4 weeks now] no more trembling.
i hope you will find the solution for tippers tremors.

Patti, more proof that each dog handles this disease so uniquely. Any time I've tried to change Daisy's food from Royal Canon it has not gone well and the IMS says not to change.

Praying that the combined vets and nutritionist can figure this out.
Hugs!

Hi Everyone:
yes I am hopeful we can get Tipper straightened out here. I am glad to hear Woody is in good hands and that he gets along well with Emma. I am still hopeful with all these Dr.'s looking at Woody that he will get a miracle. Just keep praying everyone. Blessings
Patti

Patti regarding the thyroid my friend here in the uk was sure her dog had thyroid issues but the results and her vet said no. What she did was email the vets report to Jean Donaldson and she interpreted it and emailed it back to her and indeed her dog did have thyroid issues and us so much better. Just a thought if you can get your vet to do the bloods then you can email her direct with more info.

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Causes of Peripheral Vestibular Signs

Otitis interna, hypothyroidism, Idiopathic Vestibular Disease, Neoplasia, Congenital vestibular syndrome, and rickettsial (Rocky Mountain spotted fever or ehrlichiosis) diseases.

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I wonder if some of the tremors could be associated with hypothyroidism, if Tipper has it. Just thinking since I know you are anxious about the tremors and seizures, etc.

Patti, I am glad the nutritionist is going to build on what Tipper can tolerate. The quality of the calories definitely matter, not just the quantity. She could be getting all the wrong stuff and essentially starving nutritionally, but putting on weight from the bad calories.

It's so hard to find that perfect balance!

Patti, if Tipper can tolerate veggies, carrots have a lot of sugar. Stick with green vegetables. Green beans are a favorite of Daisy's.

I think that what we always have to remember is that every dog is different and this includes the foods that agree and disagree with them. Medicines have to be tweaked and diets obviously do too.

I am sure that working with the nutritionist, you'll come up with something that works specifically with Tipper to give her the nutrition she needs daily and is tolerant for her tummy. It could be that because of the diet she has had for so long, that the first one just didn't work for her, or something disagreed with her.

Nothing has been easy with Tipper, so expect diet will be trial and error also. I am Sure though that you can figure this out Patti.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin

Hi Everyone:
I tried and experiment with Tipper last nite as my vet thinks Tipper could have focal seizures also. I read where a Dr. wrote that sometimes melatonin will help with these. So I asked Leslie if it would be ok to do and she said yes. So I gave her one 3mg last night. I should preface this by saying the other time I gave her the one before the storm it took about 2 hours to start to work on her. So knowing what time she lays down I gave it to her 2 hours before. She did have some, but not as bad as they were. I have to say that she is doing this all thru the nite now not just when she falls asleep. So I was thinking maybe 3mg is not enough. Is a higher dosage safe or not??? This is why she is waking up so much. Her eye did not appear to twitch as much either, at least while I was awake. When I get up at various times during the nite to check her I have seen her doing this then that is how I know it goes on all nite and that is not good. Also I did read that the newest and safest drug Zonisamide can possibly cause liver issues and that scares me too. If I could get her to a safe mg of melatonin maybe it would stop this for the most part??? Addy I think Hypothyroidism could be a culprit, as there were many causes that were listed for these seizures. Tipper does also have vestibular disease. I keep going back to the fact that she never did this before Vetoryl though. She need the Vetoryl to go on, so I must figure out a balance of that and stopping these seizures all nite somehow. I also read they have the potential to happen more during the nite so that is why I am seeing this then. I know I do need to get her eating healthy, although I have to say that in comparison the other foods out there on the market I felt she was safer on the Newman's Own as it has never been recalled and is made from human grade organic chicken. The part about the 2 grains and sorghum is not good according to the nutritionist, so we need to build on what I know Tipper has already eaten and had no problems with. I am worried about her not having proper nutrition and having this disease, but want to use baby steps as I do not want her sick like she was again. She may just have a system that can be real touchy with things as she has had an allergic past history. Either way I must be especially careful not to upset the apple cart. I am waiting and praying to hear some news today on Woody as he is undergoing testing today. I hope he can keep his stress level down, it is so hard for them to be in a strange environment and try to act normal. I so wish the Dr.'s could have witnessed one of those episodes with Woody, and maybe it would have given them some kind of clue as to what is doing this. Tracy is a strong woman, I just hope all this stress does not get her down again, as I know how that works all to well. Blessings
Patti