Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Hi Everyone:
I got an email from the nutritionist and she is going to formulate a better healthier diet using the chicken I give Tipper and her dog food and some herbs and supplements. That is so much better for me as I am never wanting to see my Tipper go thru what she did ever again. She really suffered. I have her all cleaned up and teeth brushed for her vet appointment and got her pretty silver coat with the sparkles on and fur hood for her to wear. I am hoping the blood comes back good, and I am having everything checked at once I might as well instead of her suffering thru this again. I am also having the Reticulocytes checked. I will have pieces of mind knowing if her electrolytes are all ok as this was an extreme bout of diarrhea. I am on pins and needles waiting to hear something on Woody. Blessings
Patti

Me and Boyce are ok thanks for asking.

Glad she will formulate a new diet, I figured she would be good as Leslie recommended her but pleased this is the case as I know you only ever try your best for your girl and that diarrhoea must have been tough on both of you, last thing you needed was another bill to rework the diet!

Hope Tracy gets back with some news soon, it's 7pm here now

Mel
Xxxx

Yes me too, I am so fond of Woody and Tracy has had it really rough the last few weeks. Stay safe and warm Mel BIG HUGS.

Hi Patti- Bless you for thinking and praying for me and Woody. I have updated his thread. It has been a horrible day, I really did think I was going to lose him today, but he fights on.

How did Tipper get on at the vets? Again thank you for your prayers

Tracy & Woody

Hi Everyone:
Well we are back from the vets and Tipper is larger than a barrel. They gave her Sub Q Fluids as he said she had 5% dehydration. Charged me 75.00 for something that costs a few dollars to buy. I have done it before to one of my cats years ago, and could have done this if I had the bag etc. We discussed the teeth and he said he would have to use something special that is fast acting and fast awakening on Tipper and said she does need her teeth done. I will have to wait until the tumor and her heart are checked out before I can even begin to consider this. More to think about. The nutritionist told me I am way underfeeding Tipper and she should never be gaining weight on what she eats a day. She told me I need a complete thyroid panel done and have it sent to Jean Dodds. Is anyone familiar with this? She said the vets miss things a lot of times on their tests. All we need is more problems right? No wonder Tipper is starving all the time, she really is! I guess I will get into all of that with the vet tomorrow. Lots of unanswered questions. Blessings
Patti

Dr. Jean Dodds is a renown expert in animal thyroid issues, here is her link: http://www.hemopet.org/

Hugs, Lori

Lori:
Thank you for the help. I had heard her name and wasn't sure of her specialty. I appreciate the help so I can get this done right.

Hi Everyone:
Well we were up again last nite. The vet gave Tipper so much fluid she gained 2lbs. She had to go pee all nite long. While I was up I was researching the information Song found out from the neurologist about Ginger. The focal seizures just made we research them. I mentioned to the vet and the IMS about this stuff Tipper does at nite while sleeping and asked if it could be seizures. I was shocked to see her behavior repeated by these dogs with focal seizures. Everything I have been telling on the forum was in front of me. The eye twitching, the facial twitches, the legs going etc. Tipper does most of the behavior I witnessed. So now I am wondering if the term labeled tremors as a side effect by Dechra is in reality focal seizures. If anyone would know I am sure it would be a neurologist which is where Song went. They can be caused by brain tumors, brain lesions, and medications. So by controlling the cortisol could the Vetoryl cause brain lesions? By controlling the cortisol does Vetoryl have some residual effect on the brain? These are in other words messed up electrical impulses from the brain. Remember when I said when I held Tipper's legs I could feel something like an electrical current running thru them? A DR. said this can start in one place and go to others. That is how it did with Tipper. She never had this until taking Vetoryl. It started in her legs, then her side would ripple, then her eye twitched badly, then her face, then her stomach contracting in and out. I am asking my vet to consult someone on this. I am 99% sure this is what she has causing all this. That is why when I wake her, it stops as her brain is awake. Also the nutritionist informed me that Tipper is not getting her nutritional requirements with the amount she is being fed. She said with what I feed her she is only getting 360 calories and should be losing weight. She said she should be getting around 500 to maintain her weight. So there is some metabolic problem here thyroid or other. I am going to have to get a sample to Jean Dodds and see what is going on here. I am concerned about these two issues affecting her current state if health so I need to get on this asap. I have already sent my vet a fax. I need to get someone in his office to establish an account with her to get his samples sent out. I feel like a zombie from no sleep, but I need to push on for my girl. Blessings
Patti

Glad Tipper had a solid poop and seems to be over the worst of her bad tummy trouble. What did the nutritionist say about what happened to Tipper? Did she know what would have caused such a violent attack...was it the very quick diet change, the buckwheat groats, all of the above? Not sure I would do too much more than chicken/rice for a bit longer.
Trixie has had the sub-q fluids a few times...the weight gain from fluids will go away as soon as she absorbs and pees out all the liquid.
Did Tipper start having the tremors/seizures very soon after starting Vetoryl or did it come on after awhile. I have not seen this with Trixie. Once and awhile when she is sleeping on the couch she has some leg twitching...more like a doggie dream, like she's running...I put my hand on her and it seems to stop right away.
We are using Vetoryl for about 9-10 months now, but the first few months were very low dose. How long has Tipper been taking it now? How has she been without it these last few days? Do you notice the tremors stop while she's not taking it?

I am so glad Tipper is better from her bout with her tummy problem. I hope you find the cause of the twitching or seizures. You are such a good mom! You will get o the bottom of all this soon, it sounds like. My prayers and thoughts are with you and Tipper. HUGS