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Sharlene:
That is awful for poor Molly. This seems to be such a problem with all these Cush pups. I wish we could find something that really worked on it. I know it is troublesome to see the mucous and blood. That would worry me too. Hope whatever is causing this stops. Blessings
Patti
We're back to very, very soft, with some form, (not solid liquid at least, but not good) and a couple drops of blood at the end each time. Usually one, and then follow almost immediately with liquid. I'm calling the vet first thing in the morning. I'm suppose to be at the office tomorrow, but not sure how I'm going to deal with that yet.
She is starving though. Molly is never a big eater, and since I've just been giving her a little bit at a time, she ends up going back to the bowl to try to lick it clean. She does at least, Love the rice. I haven't introduced any chicken to it yet. I'll cut up some chicken breast in about an hour to add to it, not much though, and then we'll probably have to go out for her to poop about an hour later.
Thanks for checking in everyone. Yes, it is worrisome as I don't like the idea of her getting dehydrated from all this diarrhea so trying to make sure she drinks plenty of water too. (another thing that she doesn't do real well is drink enough)
hugs,
Sharlene and Moly Muffin
Sharlene: So sorry Molly has soft poops. It is such a worry when they have bad poops. I think most of the time it is something they eat or they have picked up something and need an antibiotic. I am sure the vet will figure it out tomorrow. I will be thinking about you and sweet Molly. Love, Joanne
Hi Sharlene
I have the day off as Dad had minor surgery yesterday and I am looking after him as my sister has taken Mum on a trip for a few days to shaky Wellington!! He is fine, but Flynn and I had a sleepover with him last night :)
Sorry to hear Molly still has an upset tummy, apart form the squits she does not sound to sick so that is good. From my dealings with tummy troubles our vet has said if it does not last too long then nothing to worry about but if blood appears then they should have something like metronidazole to settle it down. So pleased to hear you are seeing your vet tomorrow. It seems to have started when you were at the wedding so wonder if she picked something up when she was boarding, either a bug or stress colitis with her fretting while you were away.
I would do exactly what you are doing with the simple plain meals, smaller and more frequently mixing a bit of water into the food to make sure she is getting enough to drink. Not sure if I remember if you are adding a probiotic, but think you had fortiflora? Take a sample when you go tomorrow. Without her being sick with nausea/vomiting and not displaying pain I would not think it would be pancreatitis but you never know with these tough little dogs do you!
Hope all goes well tomorrow and I will be keeping an eye to see what progress little Molly Muffin is making :) xxx
How's wee Molly today?
Oh...I feel your pain. This type of thing has been Trixie's m/o for years. We have had many a bout of soft poops and/or diarrhea with blood. Thankfully only once was it more than droplets and mixed with mucous. It's scary but my vet says can be very common but should be checked out. It's certainly a good sign that Molly seems to not be stressed or feeling poorly.
Metronidazole will help immediately, at least it does with Trixie. You may also want to send in a stool sample if it continues. As I've mentioned probably too many times is Trixie had a clostridium overgrowth and this organism emits a toxin in the colon that causes colitis symptoms in dogs. Here's a link with a short overview.
http://bridlewoodvc.blogspot.com/201...olitis-in.html
It's getting to be more common. Of course Molly may just have a basic gastro upset...just mentioning because the colitis symptoms are prevalent with this when the dog otherwise is doing fine.
I hope Molly will get over this right away...I know how you feel when you see that blood...diarrhea is bad enough but those red droplets really get the worries going. Sending positive thoughts your way!
Barbara
I don't know what to make of this girl. After a weekend of nonstop runny poops, about 3 times a day, sometimes 4, she had a soft one this morning. Then I came home from work early to make sure she could go outside, which she did, but she did nothing, no poop, no pee. Then I took her for a walk just now and she peed, but no poops at all.
She is on chicken and rice, pretty much exclusively for the next couple days, with a probiotic, Florafora.
The vet said to do this for 2 more days and then if her poops haven't formed up more solid, to bring her in for with a stool sample.
Maybe it is just that the chicken and rice are better for her tummy and the florifora helps too. We'll see how it goes.
The vet felt that because it was after the stay over, that she had some stress colitis, and that might have actually triggered a full out colitis attack which will calm down with this regimen. If it doesn't we'll start looking for bacterias.
The girls on last weekend, were new, couldn't handle molly at all and that might have been enough to get molly stressed out. I have verified that she can stay over this sat night and that the two on duty are old friends of molly's, so she'll be fine. My vet said that Molly has people she is partial to and everyone else she doesn't want near her. (that sounds about right for Molly) but it stresses her if "her" people aren't the ones there. She won't let others near to put her harness on to take her out even and it seems that there was even a call to the vet that they couldn't do anything with molly last weekend. She didn't want to come out of her area, she didn't want them to put her harness on, she wouldn't let them clean, just was a real handful. That's not good. :(
If this doesn't clear up, I'll mention clostridium Barbara, thanks.
Thanks for checking in on us.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
No doubt that dogs can work themselves into a stress situation that manifests in gastro upset...I'm sure it happens all the time. I hope that's all Molly's is about. :p As far as not doing any poops I find that's a good thing. The system is recovering and no poops are better than bad poops anytime!! :D
Sounds like the overnight stay for the party will be a lot less stresssful for the little girl with her "friends" there to look after her instead of all the non friends that she doesn't like. Dogs are funny...they certainly have their preferences for just about everything and especially for people!! Good for Molly for being a discerning judge of who she wants around her!! I'm sure she has her reasons!! :D
I hope the vet visit ends up not being needed!!
Barbara
Sharlene,
I hope Molly's tummy has continued to settle with the bland diet. Unfortunately I am acquainted with the dastardly clostridium also. The bacterial overgrowth that Barbara mentioned happens easily in stress related colitis. That used to happen to my angel Dakota almost every time she was kenneled. :( Metronidazole works really well as it controls the bacteria and also decreases the inflammation in the bowel. Jasper has experienced this type of colitis a few times also. :( :(
Here's hoping Molly is on the mend and won't need a vet visit!
Hugs,
Tina and Jasper
Poop update !!
Fingers crossed Molly has turned the corner! A couple of normal ones will all have us giving a big sigh of relief!! Jeepers I bet you are less than keen about Molly having a sleepover at the vets again this weekend, but so pleased to hear her favourites will be on to take care of her and keep her happy. xx
Sharlene:
Hoping Molly does turn the corner. I just pray she does not get her system upset from staying at the vets this weekend. Blessings
Patti
Hey Sharlene...How's Molly today?? Hope "things" have firmed up and that Molly is doing just fine. ;)
Barbara
Hi all, well I thought this morning, when we had soft but at least a bit formed and no blood that things would get better. This evening though we're back to the diarrhea. I'm continuing with chicken/rice and probiotic.
We had a change of computer equipment today and so I haven't been able to get online till now.
We'll just keep trudging alone. Molly feels like she is losing weight, but that could be my imagination. Her belly looks smaller and she feels lighter.
I have to say though, she continues to act like she feels okay, she is constantly hungry on this diet plan.
The vet wanted me to call tomorrow or Friday to let her know how molly is doing. I'll probably call tomorrow.
Thanks for checking in with me gang. :)
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
Sharlene:
Would Molly eat some boiled potato? When my one bird had cancer the vet would tell me to give her that for the runs. The starch binds them up. It would not hurt her as it is bland, but could possibly help. Hope it all gets turned around as I know she will go to the vets this weekend to stay right? Hope your party is a hit. Blessings
Patti
Back to the full diarrhea this morning. I called the vet and will be going to pick up Metronidazole this afternoon. I said the probiotic alone just isn't working and I think she needs something more.
Poor thing, she doesn't act like she feels bad, she isn't tender anywhere like if she had pancreatic issues, no pain at all.
However, she is not drinking enough water right now and that is a huge worry with the crystal issues. She looks like she has lost weight, in that her tummy isn't nearly as pot belly looking currently and she feels lighter when I pick her up. That might all be my imagination what with the concern over how long this is lasting. I'd b feeling much worse than she seems to if it were me.
She is always up for more rice and chicken, just loves it all, even the plain rice, she will lick the bowl. I'd think the rice, being starchy would help with the poop consistencies, but it really hasn't.
So, cross your fingers this works.
Yea Trish, I'm not thrilled about her going back there this weekend, but it's only one night and I talked with the vet about it and we felt she'd be more stressed with a house full of strangers.
Okay got to run, work, work, work
hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin
Oh Sharlene, I sure hope Miss Pretty Molly feels better real soon.
Didn't want to read that. What a shame ! Sure hope the meds help cause what else can you give her?
awe.. Ms. Molly's tummy is giving her fits. :( Hope the meds help & she is back on her sassy way soon.
Wow, had no idea that this Metronidazole had liquid gold in it. 5 pills was 98.97 :eek: :eek: I know we pay a lot for pet meds here in Canada, but is that reasonable compared to the US?
I just paid over $30.00 for 7 packets of florifora 2 days ago, because mine had expired date on it, so needed some new.
I'll pay it obviously but it does seem rather excessive, or am I just fooling myself. It's okay, don't be afraid to say, gf you are out to lunch. :D :confused:
bewildered,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
Ok... tell Molly she IS going to get better only because of the cost of the meds.
You aren't out to lunch, we'd pay triple that and you know it to make them feel better.
Sure hope it works for you. Nothing bugs me more when you pay an arm and a leg for meds and they don't work.
I'll ck back tomorrow to see how she's doing and officially wish you "Happy Birthday" - tell Molly her feeling better would be the best present for you.
I totally agree with you Sharlene. Almost $20 per pill! That is insane!:eek::eek::eek: Are these directly from your vet, or can you get them at another pharmacy with written script? I would certainly try! So sorry to hear that our little diva still has the runs, and so close to your birthday celebration. Kids will do that to you every time!;) xxxxx
That was from my vet. I needed it today and have never found a place to get anything with a script. :( It's not quite as easy to do in Canada.
Yea, I know, holidays and all, is prime time for them to catch something or get sick.
huggers,
Sharlene and molly muffin
Sharelene our vet sends the prescription to the human pharmacy and I pay about $50-$60 for 60 pills 250mgs.
That cant be right, are you sure they did not make an error? I would ask them. How could that be?
WHAT!?? Even my crazy over-priced vets office does not charge anything close to that! Dr. Foster/Smith has it for .45 cents a tab. and 1-800 pet meds has .69 cents a tab. in the U.S.
Wow I can't believe you would have to pay that much more for it in Canada...I always think it's the one cheap drugs at my vet.
Well...you needed it and had to get it for Molly and that's what they charged you...but maybe check it out because it does seem extreme.
The good news about it is that you should see results pretty soon. It always works for Trixie with improvement after one dose...and usually no more diarrhea after two doses.
Hoping it works on Molly right away and that you can feel fine about boarding her for the party...and speaking of that have a HAPPY BIRTHDAY and a super fun celebration!!!! :D
Barbara
Hope Molly feels better soon, poor sweetie!
♫ Happy Birthday To You ♫
Sharlene: So sorry Molly has the runs. That is extremely expensive for the Metronidazole. I never pay more than $1 a pill. Of course we pay what we have to for our pups. Maybe she will not need more than 5 pills. It always really helps CoCo. I know Molly will be fine boarded at the vet's. I am sure they have everything there to help her, but I know you worry that she is not with you. Have a happy birthday and I know Molly will be fine. For some reason these little dogs get diarrhea really often, I know CoCo does and it takes several days to get him back to firm stools. Usually something he has eaten, inside or outside. Much love and I will thinking about you and Molly. Enjoy your party. Love, JoAnne
Sharlene, something is terribly wrong with that pricing!!! :eek: :eek:
Here's a link to a Canadian pharmacy that is charging only approx. 50 cents (Canadian currency) per 250 mg. pill, even for only five pills total. I would definitely pursue this with your vet and demand a refund!
https://www.canadadrugs.com/products/flagyl/250mg
Marianne
How is Molly feeling today? How are you doing?
That price on metronidazole is highway robbery! First you have to do whatever you have to do to help them feel better, but it sure seems the vet has taken advantage of the urgency in needing the medications. I wonder if the dispensing fee is super high or something. I, too would have a discussion with your vet or the hospital manager regarding their pricing....
I hope Molly and you can get some much needed rest!
Take Care,
Jen & Jigsaw
Good morning. :)
Molly this morning still had diarrhea. She'll have her second dose this afternoon, hopefully that will help. She isn't going Often, just when she does, it's a mess.
I Know that when it comes to pet medications here we are definitely Way above what you pay in the US. We don't have the options of buying usually from online pharmacies without a prescription, even flea medication, liver support etc, and I have yet to hear of a vet who will write a prescription to an online pharmacy. My vet doesn't write any prescriptions out of house, so to speak. My flea/tick/heartworm medication is I guess around 120.00 for the 6 month supply. My Hepato Support supplement is around $80.00
I dealt with the office manager when I bought the medication. She's someone I've know for years and I know that she charged whatever the price is that is set there. I think it is two thing, one immediate disbursement (the need at the moment) and the other, that the vets in Canada have a monopoly on what they charge since everything has to go through the vet for a prescription. This isn't new, although for some reason this one floored me. We've known for a long time that when it comes to pet medicines here that we are basically at the mercy of the vets.
I have noticed that many things you can buy online in the states for 1/4 or 1/2 the cost that we pay here for a prescription medicine. Like Hepato Support, from the same place RX Vitamins is 22.72 at amazon.com. They won't ship to Canada and Amazon.ca doesn't carry it.
Just like Dechra won't/can't talk to the pet owner here, we also can't buy the simplest things without a prescription. Everything goes through your vet. *sigh*
Isn't that strange, that it is this hard to get meds for pets, but if you need Tylenol with codeine, you just walk up the pharmacy window and you can get a bottom of #1 strength codeine, for higher #2 and #3, you would need a prescription.
Oh, DEHA, vitamin supplement, you need a prescription for (Human), yet in the states, every drug store has it in their vitamin section. Here you even need to have it compounded as it isn't carried by pharmacies. Although some health food stores have it, and you have to show your prescription to pick it up. :confused:
I'll ask next time I see the vet or office manager, what the deal is though. I won't see them on Saturday probably when I drop molly off, as she is going in at the latest possible time and I know that my vet has a delicate situation scheduled with another owner, at around that same time, so she'll be occupied and that isn't something I want to interrupt for this. :(
Thanks for the birthday wishes. It has started off lovely, other than poopy bums. :) Molly's not mine. :D Hubs made me a cappuccino and flowers and lovely card first thing in the morning. Great way to start the day.
hugs all,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
We need prescriptions for most online pharmacy drug purchases here in the U.S. too, Sharlene, so it's not the prescription that's the difference in terms of the metronidazole. And even though I recognize that buying directly from the vet would involve a somewhat higher cost, the difference between 50 cents and $20 per pill is astounding. I just cannot imagine any justification for that price differential. I'll be really interested to hear the office manager's explanation.
Even if your vet doesn't want you to make an online purchase, can you at least take the prescription to a brick-and-mortar drugstore to be filled instead of holding you hostage for that exorbitant price at the vet practice? If I were you, I'd ask for pricing from a reliable local drugstore and if it is significantly less, present that info to the office manager and ask her, "What gives?"
Marianne
Sharlene:
Please do not pay that much for the Metronidazole. I called 1-800 Pet meds and they ship to Canada and it is 69 cents a pill. You can use the web site and save five dollars on your first order by using the code FIVEOFF. Please go tot he web site. They all deliver quickly . Blessings
Patti
Sharlene:
I think the website Drs Foster and Smith also ship to Canada and they are cheap too.
Wooohooo, its a birthday Day!! And it's a biggie :D:D:D:):):):D:D:D
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARLENE
LOVE TRISH AND FLYNN xxxxxxx
Have a fantastic weekend, it's the festival of Sharlene and you deserve to have fun, so hope Miss Molly's poopybum will settle down pronto on the liquid gold :eek::eek:
Parteee Birthday Girl
I will check with my local pharmacy that dies all my prescriptions and see if they would fill for Molly too and what the price is. I think the tricky part will be getting her to write a prescription for out of house filling.
I'm stuffed. Ate too much I am sure while out with friends today. They had to role me home. Lol.
Party tomorrow so got to make room for more food. Think I can hold over after this weekend till thanksgiving. Lolol
Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin.
Happy birthday!!!!!:d
Party on birthday girl! I hope the little pooper behaves herself at the vet!;) xxxxxx
Happy Birthday Sharlene!!!
Yay, I got in just under the wire on your special day (central time at least!). I hope you have had a great day, and have a wonderful party tomorrow! Party on girl!!! :D:):D:)
Hope Molly is feeling better.
Big hugs,
Tina and Jasper