Thanks Addy-Always lots of cuddles and smooches with my Scoop.
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Thanks Addy-Always lots of cuddles and smooches with my Scoop.
Scoop trembles so much more lately than he used to. Last night he shook harder than I saw before. It lasted about 10 minutes or so. When he fell asleep it stopped.
Right now he seems to be sleeping but he is shaking a little especially around the shoulder area. Scoop has been doing something for month or two. I caught it on video on my camera and showed the vet. She has no idea why he does this. He'll lick his upper lip, nose a few times then he opens his mouth almost like he is going to yawn but he's not. It seems like he has phlegm in his throat or something is caught in there. He'll do this several times in a row. Anyone ever see anything like that? Also Scoop's ears and paws get cold so easily. The vet said her feet get cold easily, too. Scoop's never used to be like that. I don't like what I see happening to my "baby doll" lately. I get so scared.
Hi Vickie
Squirt does something similar and I have asked her vets about it over and over - no one seems to have an answer nor seem very concerned about it. I decided it might be digestive, like indigestion that us old folk get at night ;). Maybe a little nausea as air licking is a sign of nausea and these meds can make their tummies feel a bit yucky even tho there isn't a negative reaction. Plus Squirt is an old lady - around 90 in human years - and I know her absorption isn't what it used to be nor is her digestion as smooth a process as it once was. She will sometimes make sounds and have movements that almost look like she is going to throw up, but doesn't and instead has this kinda "ACHK" hacking sound, then lays back down. She doesn't do the trembling, tho. However, she is on Lyso and Trilo is known to cause trembling so Scoop's trembling could be due to the Trilo.Quote:
He'll lick his upper lip, nose a few times then he opens his mouth almost like he is going to yawn but he's not. It seems like he has phlegm in his throat or something is caught in there. He'll do this several times in a row.
I can't tell you the number of times I have taken Squirt's face in my hands, looked into her eyes, and told her this sort of stuff just can't keep happening as it worries her old mom to pieces. She just blinks, kisses my nose, and takes off for fear I am going to wash her face or something equally horrid. :D
Sometimes, I am taken completely by surprise at the depth of love we have for these little ones, the lengths we are willing to go to for them, and the unbelievable joy we find in our babies.
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang
Sometimes a pup will lip lick and yawn as a calming signal for themselves so I wonder if there is some sick tummy feeling or a bit of pain somewhere. Zoe does something similar when she has been sleeping awhile. The shivering could be from the Trilo.
I know it is so hard to see our babies change with illness. You have had to deal with a lot. I know how hard all of this is for you. I have had similar emotions over Zoe.
(((((((((((((((BIGGEST HUGS ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Hi Vicki,
Just wanted to tell you that my own Cushpup had weird tremoring episodes, too. He had a few before he was disagnosed, but they became a whole lot worse when we first started him on the trilostane. For him, it looked as though he was shivering and it was mainly across his shoulders and back (it was definitely different from the shaky back legs he had from muscle weakness). Weirdly, it happened most often when he was resting or asleep. It never actually seemed to bother him, but it definitely freaked me out. It finally stopped after a couple of months, and we never did get any explanation. I've always wondered whether it was just related to the big changes in his cortisol level -- first when it was skyrocketing before treatment, and then when it was coming down so fast after we started the trilo.
Marianne
Thanks Leslie, Addy, Marianne. It's good to hear what others think because all I do is think the worst.
Leslie-That ACHK hacking sound describes it. Like he's clearing phlegm. It made me smile what you said about Squirt kissing your nose and taking off.
I didn't know the air licking can be a sign of nausea.
Addy-It very well could be he doesn't feel well or is in pain. I just keep wondering about the tumor because I've read that the large tumors can give them headaches. He also has a lot of gas at times from that horrible food he eats. The vet has him eating a can of Hills W/D food plus a cup of dry Hills W/D. Plus he gets some chicken and carrots during the day.
Marianne-That's how Scoop started. He had a few tremors in his back end before he was on Vetoryl and after he started on it they just keep getting worse and worse. He has them all over his body now. I've seen them once or twice while he was standing still but they are usually while he is laying still. He USUALLY doesn't do it while asleep. Hope it doesn't start. He's been on Vetoryl over 4 months.
I'm so glad to have such wonderful, caring friends on here that take time and listen to what I am worried about. Sometimes I think I am just going crazy. I'm having a really hard time dealing with the worry and what's going to happen. Sometimes I wonder what will happen to me after Scoop's not here. I just don't know why I can't deal with it better. All I can think about is I have to be able to help him and I can't.
HUGS to all.
when Jenny had back leg tremors I thought it was the cushings and it turns out her blood sugar was in the 40's scary low.
we have too many things to worry about! hugs, Judi
Vicki:
Tipper also does this. Especially when she first gets up. She will even wake up and do it, during her sleep. I am convinced it has something to do with the throat, as I have talked about Tipper's trachea problems, which I am not sure this disease has not caused. When there are so many doing the same thing it makes you wonder. Since not a lot is known about this disease it could very well cause this. It seems Tipper has mucus or something also. I really wish more was known about all this disease causes.
Vicki if it is any way consoling for you, when Zoe had secondary glaucoma, the ophthalmologist said it is very painful for dogs and that Zoe had a horrible headache. She would kind of hold her head up, while laying down, and slowly blink her eyes and then shut them for a few seconds, you could just see the headache on her face and then finally she would put her head down and just go to sleep. So maybe Scoop doesn't have a headache as you fear:):):)
Hi Vicki! I know everything seems to be scary with our babies. I know it is because we love them so much that it makes it all so much worse. Plus what we can build up in our minds, probably is much worse than the reality. At least I hope that is the case.
How is Scoops blood sugar? Have you tried testing it during one of these episodes? If nothing else you could maybe rule it out as a cause.
Hang in there! You are a good mommy and that is what Scoop knows. :)
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin