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I googled the peppermint flavored sublingual melatonin and seen that this is a time-released product.Quote:
Originally Posted by LabDad
What has been recommended is the regular melatonin, not a fast-reacting or time-released product.
Love and hugs,
Lori
Hi,
If you have a Walgreens near by, they carry Nature's Bounty melatonin, plain melatonin and it is not expensive. Sometimes they have buy one get one free.
Hugs,
Addy
Thanks Addy,
Will look next time I'm there.
When I was giving my boy, Harley, melatonin I purchased it at The Vitamin Shoppe. One can purchase this product on-line, here is a link in-case you are interested: http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/e...jsp?id=VS-1336
Love and hugs,
Lori
Thanks Lori.
As I said Lulu's other vet, left Michigan and joined a satellite office in Wisconsin. She wrote me when I mentioned a second opinion:
"Good to hear back from you. I have seen lots of Cushing's disease dogs and its very common for them to become Addisonian after the Lysodren treatment and that's what happened with Lulu. I think if Lulu is not drinking excessively or urinating excessively then I would not worry about it but if she is drinking and urinating a lot then I would do ACTH Stimulation test for her. Dr. Barr always talks to the endocrinologist specialist for these kind of cases. I mean its your choice if you want to go to Dr. Wilson but I would say even if you talk to Dr. Barr regarding the ACTH stimulation test she will be able to do that test and accordingly decide whether Lulu needs Lysodren or not. Also whether she is still Addisonian or Cushing's is coming back or she is normal. ACTH Stimulation test is the only test for that."
Well I have printed up the lab tests for our vet visit this evening for a second opinion.
I also added the notes from Lulu's doctor that left to go to Wisconsin before the last test was done on Lulu Feb. 17, 2011. She seemed to believe that Lulu's Cushing Disease had become Addison's Disease. She said that the veterinarian that we have now has been in contact with an endocrinologist, and I think maybe she felt it wasn't necessary for us to seek another opinion, although she respects our decision.
My feelings are I will listen to Dr. Wilson in Romeo, Michigan, he did excellent ACL surgery on Lulu in 2005 & 2006 and is the owner of the very successful Wilson Veterinary Clinic with it's four other satellite offices. They not only are good and have 24 hour care, they are very reasonable and do not usually charge the 'upscale' prices though I consider their facility to be very modern, clean and friendly even on a Sunday afternoon.
I will ask Dr. Wilson about the melatonin and may also get another dose of flea and tick spot, (Frontline probably) as we have had a very bad spring with ticks this year, worst ever! :(
:)
Addison's disease comes in three forms: primary, secondary and atypical.
With primary Addison's disease, the dog's adrenal glands fail to produce enough of steroids called glucocorticoids (cortisol) and mineralocorticoids (aldosterone).
Mineralocorticoids maintain the body's potassium and sodium balance. Glucocorticoids aid in regulating a dog's blood pressure, stimulate the metabolism and help maintaining a calm state.
The secondary and atypical forms of canine Addison's disease finds the dog's adrenal glands producing adequate levels of aldosterone, but not enough cortisol.
Have Lulu's electrolytes been checked recently?
Love and hugs,
Lori
Thansk Lori,
Not only did we do the right thing having Dr. Wilson see Lulu, we discovered he is very knowledgeable about the disease. He told me to look up Trilostane on the Internet, which I will do. He had used Lysodren in the past. He said Trilostane is expensive, but they have used a version of a generic, he said it was compounded or broken down, not exactly sure what he meant, except that cheaper generic type drugs I believe in 'most of the time'.
I have scheduled Lulu for next Tuesday morning for a one hour ACTH test. I also will bring in a urine sample, however I just remembered I forgot to get the container from them. So I will probably use a butter dish that I have cleaned out, I'm sure that will be okay.
And yes, electrolytes Dr Wilson said should be checked. He doesn't believe she is in Addison's state. We agreed that it is worth the extra 10 miles to have Dr. Wilson see her than one of his closer Vet Clinics vets. I think he feels that Lulu is doing fairly well and was happy that I have been able to find ways to calm her during storms, such as putting her in her cage for example.
Also, the ACTH test will be one-half the cost as our Port Huron Vet office was charging, and they had taken a hundred off the cost as it was. So we are very happy about this, and we wonder about the prices that are charged sometimes?
Dr. Wilson said 3mg of melatonin twice a day is okay. We picked up two for the price of one at Rite-Aid today, that is 250 pills times 2 or 500 pills for 13 dollars.
Lulu and I (hey I want to see if it helps me sleep) will take a melatonin tablet tonight.
:)
Our Resource Thread has a lot of information about Trilostane/Vetoryl.
Here is a link to that info:Trilostane/Vetoryl Information and Resources.
Love and hugs,
Lori