Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy- Good Bye Flynny We will miss you

Thanks Kathy, He has had a great day, perked up really well so think he was just a bit tired after a big day yesterday. Barking like a banshee tonight at a couple of dogs walking in the park and having a ball kicked for them. He had a big romp with a Staffy Terrier up the beach and was running fast! He has had his dinner and now NBM, not even water allowed. I even gave him a couple of whitebait that I was having as a treat :) His latest mix is chicken and vegie and they must grind up quite a lot of bone in it as his poops were rock hard today :eek: But other than that he has been perfect :D:D

Hi Trish,
Darn, looks like I missed you tonight/morning. I haven't been able to be on the forum much lately unfortunately, and am trying desperately to get caught up on everyone. I have scanned all the latest info on Flynn, and I'm sure happy to see the improvement in his most recent UPC! Going in the right direction for sure. I don't think the fact that his urine was more dilute than usual is a problem because it's my understanding that the UPC is not affected by urine concentration. And I remember my vet saying that you can't look at the urine protein and creatine values separately as any indicator, I think maybe they fluctuate throughout the day. My lab reports don't give a normal range for them separately.

I'm so glad you are getting the liver values repeated sooner rather than later and am hoping for big improvement. I know Jasper's ALP fluctuates all over the place, and during that whole Addison's crisis in September it shot up to over 4000. :eek: But he takes dexamethasone which accounts for some of that, I know his issues are different than Flynn's. When his ALT went up, I know my vet was much more concerned, so glad to see that value has gone down for Flynn, and hope it is down even more tomorrow. Jasper had the bile acid test way back when we were doing all the diagnostic tests to rule out things before he was diagnosed with Cushings. I remember my vet saying it was a test that was more specific for liver function. Has Flynn had it done before? And has your vet said anything more about the calcium level or low serum creatinine? I know you mentioned you were concerned about those.

We have all fingers and paws crossed here and are hoping for improvement with tomorrow's tests. So happy to read that he had a great day and is overall feeling good. I hope to get an update posted on Jasper one of these days. I just don't seem to have enough hours in the day! :rolleyes:

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper

PS Your pirate costume sounds great! I'm with Sharlene, I expect some pics!! :D

How funny. I just said molly was carrying on like a banshee on her thread, come over here and read that Flynn was carrying on like a banshee on his thread. Cracked me up! Banshee wailing dogs. Do the Irish proud!

LOL Sounds like Flynn had a pretty good day, out and about and running and having a great time. He probably needs some recovery time after that kind of day. Plus, stopping the tramadol, so he might feel it a bit morning after stiffening up over night while sleeping. Still if it is working itself out as the day goes on, then that is a good thing and he can do it without the tramadol. Save that for those times when he seems to need it more perhaps.

Hey Tina, great to see you popping in!

hugs
Sharlene and Molly

Hi Tina and Sharlene

I have read heaps about the UPC test and agree that it is not meant to impact, but when I have more time tonight I will post you the results over the last year or so Tina and you can see the trends with the decreasing Creatinine. Protein level is best ever, Creatinine lowest ever so it does seem to make a difference.

I am quite keen to get these results, as he seems a lot better than before with that jerky twitching gone, eyes not looking pink at times, more energy, better poops and less itching!! So I have the fingers crossed too, he keeps looking hopeful every time I go to the kitchen wanting his breakfast to materialise! Least he won't have to wait long :)

Better get myself organised as nearly time to leave, bah humbug Monday mornings suck!

Yes, Monday mornings do suck!:o i'm glad it's Sunday morning here!:D Rub Flynny's ears for me and try to have a good day.:p xxxx

Uck, Mondays. I guess I'll have to pull myself out of bed and go to work, can't seem to find a good enough reason not to. LOL I forgot that we changed our clocks here in North America today. Wasn't till I was at a store and someone said it was 2:18pm and I'm looking at my watch wondering how come it was off, that it occurred to me. Duh.
I am going to try to get a start on my Xmas shopping I think. My hubby said his is almost done and my youngest step daughter said the same thing and I'm like, hello, haven't even started, who Are you people.

Molly has finally settled down with a tooth chewy bone and seems to be happy. She has been a bundle of energy all day. This morning though, she crawled into bed with me and said, nope, we aren't getting up Yet mom, just stay right where you are. LOL I did. Good thing she she has been on a rampage ever since she decided it was time to get up.

Well, I'll be interested to see those liver test results too. I am still hoping for good numbers. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hi Trish, hope your Monday went well and Flynn did ok at the vets. I will check in later for the other UPC's and in the meantime I am going to hunt up all of Jasper's, (I think he has had just 3) and compare the protein vs creatinine values also and see what's what.

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper

Man, I have had trouble posting this as a table, basically I couldn't and if I put them in a row the spacing went whacko!! Anyway, I have had to resort to listing it... Date first, then next row Total urinary protein g/L, then Urinary Creatinine umol/l, bottom row ratio

6 April 12
Protein 1.84
Creatinine 13521
Ratio 1.21

22 Nov 12
3.1
18566
1.48

26 Jan 13
Ratio only 1.5

22 Feb 13
6
18194
2.92

5 March 13
3
13954
1.9

9 April 13 Started Benzapril 2.5mg daily
5
12411
3.57

2 May 13
Ratio only 1.49

22 May 13
2.45
11781
1.84

10 July 13
2.27
10380
1.93

30 Aug 13 Benzapril increased to 5mg daily
4
9124
3.88

22 Oct
1.71 lowest protein ever!
7955 but lowest creatinine ever too and if this was bit higher it would bring the ratio down according to the formula
1.91

He was fine today, perhaps little quiet tonight. Our vet emailed before and there are no results as yet. He said no need to do ammonia etc as as bile acids are the indicator of hepatic Nitrogen clearance.

Hey Trish, if you know that Flynn's urine was dilute at the time of this testing, wouldn't that be explanation in and of itself for this lowest urinary creatinine? As far as there being a trend towards lower urinary creatinine levels, do you have any reason to believe his urine has been getting more dilute over time?

It seems to me that is a different question than the validity of the UPC testing. Since we're told the UPC automatically corrects for variations in urine volume and concentration, those results should remain trustworthy, regardless.

Marianne

Hey Trish,

I have absolutely no idea what is going on with UPC and associated tests, just wanted to let you know I am here riding along and hoping all goes well.

Hope you enjoy Pahia at Christmas too, it's a great spot (I've actually been there!) and if you're into boat trips, I thoroughly recommend a day on the bay for a relaxing cruise and possible swim with the dolphins. Take care, and just remember I wanna see the pics too! :p