new from europe (arthritis and vetoryl?) - Ian, Flynn and Enya have passed

yes, the former zuiderzee. so you know where we are going.............
it is a bit cooler during the day, but the nights are sticky.
i promised the dogs to go again tomorrow.
our little holiday!

Hey Iris,

how are things going over on your side of the world. :)

Sharlene and molly muffin

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Originally Posted by flynnandian

yes, the former zuiderzee. so you know where we are going.............
it is a bit cooler during the day, but the nights are sticky.
i promised the dogs to go again tomorrow.
our little holiday!

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I haven't visited the area, but am I correct in thinking it's quite popular with German holiday makers. I spent a lot of time working in Koln and seem to recall friends talking about that area.

yes, germans like our beaches very much, since they are sandy and theirs are rocky.
and they like to drink lots of dutch beer.

and sharlene, it is still very hot and humid, thunderstorm today, but no relief!
i give ian only half his dosage of vetoryl, since he has lost weight because of this lousy weather, and is not feeling 100% in this heat.
the water temp. are very high now too, so not too much relief there too anymore.
we had a winter with no frost, so the water temp. were already high.
and it is only the beginning of august................
literally getting sick of it!
hope your weather is better.

Sorry to hear the wave continues. That is hard for pups and humans.
We have had such a cool summer but we have had a ton of rain also.

I don't think I had any Dutch beer but we did try Hodge Podge for dinner one night in Amsterdam. Bailey's mom, Susan just saw all the tulips in a beautiful park and sent the most wonderful video. It was just so lovely seeing all the tulips and the patterns made with the colors.

Try to stay cool and dry if you can!!!!

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Originally Posted by flynnandian

yes, germans like our beaches very much, since they are sandy and theirs are rocky.
and they like to drink lots of dutch beer.

and sharlene, it is still very hot and humid, thunderstorm today, but no relief!
i give ian only half his dosage of vetoryl, since he has lost weight because of this lousy weather, and is not feeling 100% in this heat.
the water temp. are very high now too, so not too much relief there too anymore.
we had a winter with no frost, so the water temp. were already high.
and it is only the beginning of august................
literally getting sick of it!
hope your weather is better.

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I was always a disappointment to them because I just don't like beer :eek: I was even more of a disappointment to the Belgians when I spent 4 months in Antwerp :D

Is your weather always been so humid? It definitely seemed to get hotter in my last years in the UK, and here is unbearable - from the end of May to mid-September I basically hibernate because of the heat and humidity (and Henry joins me so I can fully understand how poor Ian feels).

i don't like beer too! [male] dutch, british, german and belgian working class people drink a lot of it. it gives them pot bellies, ha, ha!
the weather is getting hotter according to the people who are studying the climate change.
we had a very "hot" winter [no frost] , so the water temp. are high and the wind is "'hot"' too.
normally with a sea climate the wind from the sea is cool, but this year the wind is most of the time from the land side where the temp. are higher.
and especially the nights are hot and sticky. not cooling down much.
@addy and@ mc davis; you both have been travelling a lot for work and holidays.
if you want to sea tulips, you have to come during early spring time.
https://www.google.nl/search?q=bolle...iw=853&bih=609
i've never been to the usa or canada, but i have visited a lot of european countries by car.
i hope the weather will be quiet and cool for all our [cush] doggies.

and i won "'the cushing's lottery"' for the third time.
ian's sister enya is on vetoryl too since 5 days. 15 mg. doing well.
ian is still on 15 mg too since he lost some weight because of the heat.
it is cooler now this week, so we are happy.
hope the heat does not come back.
it didn't do any good to us.
hope the dogs will recover soon from this.
i am still a bit worried.

Oh my goodness!! 3 now! Glad Enya is doing well.

Did you get her tested?
What is causing you to worry still?
Do you think this is a litter issue since all 3 have had cushings?

Glad the weather is cooler, I know you were really sweltering!

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

Well you called it right. Are you ok? I'm glad the heat let up for you.

Are you worried Ian lost some weight and had trouble with the heat?

hi sharlene, flynn was not related to ian and enya.
he was a pedigree border collie, so nothing to do with the others.
the worry comes from the fact that this long period of hot and humid weather did not do the dogs any good.
she was showing more and more symptoms and getting more pot bellied every day.
so i took the risk of starting her very low on 15 mg vetoryl.
she is doing a lot better after 5 days now.
testing her means fully sedate her and that scared me very much, knowing she needs a lot because she is very stressed at the vets office. and because of that it will cost her a long time to clear her body from all this stuff.
last time when she cut her leg badly it took her half a day.
i took her back to give her an antidote. very scary.

Oh, I thought Flynn was a litter mate. My mistake.

Yes the weather can be quite hard on them when it is too hot.

Yes I see what you mean. Poor girl.

Sharlene and molly muffin

it is still cooler over here, so the dogs are feeling much better.
enya is on 15 mg for 13 days now and her belly is already less in size.
she is doing fine, except for the fears.
like tipper and eli she has become paranoid sometimes of noises and things we don't see, but she does.
especially in the dark. her eyes look clear, no greyish film or anything like that.
a bit skittish in the house too.
aside of that she is much fitter, so we are happy.
ian is still doing very well on the vetoryl for 9 months now.
sept. 4 he will be 13.5 years old.

Hope that Enya continues to do good. You'll have to keep an eye on her, as being skittish can also be a sign of the cortisol going low, so they don't have that natural protection of adrenal burst when they think there is something going on.

Glad the weather is cooler for you now. We on the other hand have had the coldest july and october since they started keeping records. Isn't that a joy. NOT! They are now saying me might have a colder than normal winter too so no idea what that will mean for the rest of the world.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

I'm pleased to hear the vetoryl is helping both dogs, and also that it's started cooling down for you - that will definitely help.
I do hope we have a colder winter than last year - we kept having odd warm days which melted the snow which then turned to ice.

i always will watch the dogs carefully.
i hope enya will slowly lose more weight, because she looks like a pot bellied piggy. her brother looks normal now, so i hope she wil too in a few months.
a colder than normal winter, brrrr!
mc davis and sharlene, i hope it will be a winter for you with steady temperatures, so you can go outside to walk the dogs without blizzards and tons of snow and ice.
last winter it was like spring over here, and the winter before we had 3 months of snow and again in april.
i think the climate is off, and we don't know what to expect anymore.
a cold summer after that long winter you had, doesn't sound too good.
it is only max. 65F now/20C so one could say it is cold some days when there is rain.
but the weatherman said that it will be pretty hot again next week?
well we have to wait and see. i hope he is wrong.

my ian will be exactly 13.5 tomorrow, so time for a small birthday party.
he is still doing very well.
his birthday meal will be tripe, his favorite!

Happy 13.5 birthday to Ian - I hope he enjoys his birthday treat.

How is Enya doing after another week on the meds?

Is it still cooling down for you?
We had one truly wonderful day of 16C last week (so I took Henry for a 4 mile walk), then temperatures rocketed along with the humidity. It was 30C when I left the rink at 10pm last night and my car was covered in condensation so I ended up putting the roof and windows down and had to use the wipers on super speed just to see :eek:

thank you for the birthday wishes, it was cooler for 2 weeks, but it is hot and humid again.
16C is what they like here too, good weather to make long walks.
great that your henry is still able to make those long walks.
but 30C and very humid in your area, not what we and our dogs want!
ian's sister enya developed fears like tipper and eli had/have on this forum.
afraid of noises, the dark etc., even in the house.
she made me and her brother very nervous.
her pot belly was much less in size and her body was doing fine, but her mind wasn't.
so i took her off the vetoryl a few days ago to see if she would recover from that side effect.
and she is more happy now already, but already looking fatter and begging for food.
15 mg vetoryl for an 11 kg dog should not be too much. i will wait till there are more symptoms and then try again.
she is still fit enough to make long walks and loves to swim in the lake and river.

Happy 13.5 Birthday, sweet Ian!!!

thank you!

Oh my. Almost missed this!!

Happy birthday Ian !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yuk. Hot and humid is terrible for the people and the dogs.

Less might work better though for Enya. You just never know.

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

Iris, how are you and the gang doing? Finally get some cool fall weather? We had a cool day here today but tomorrow we're heading back to sunshine and warmer temps. We're all thrilled too, since our summer seems to have been mostly wet and cold! grrr

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

hi sharlene it is still pretty hot over here and very dry.
the dogs and i are not feeling well because of it.
last winter was hot and spring and summer too, no relief yet.
send some wet and cold over here please, you can have our dry and warm weather in return.
we went to the beach 3 times in the last 2 weeks to cool off a bit.
very happy doggies!
enys is still off the vetoryl because of character changes.
she became afraid of noises, the dark etc.
if the cushing symptoms are getting worse, we will see again what dosage to start with.
ian is still doing fine on his lower dosage, eating well and taking all his pills!
hope mollies eyes are in pretty good shape and that there is some proper medicine for it if needed!

I am so sorry for your grief over Flynns loss. RIP sweet fellow. Home free!

Tight hugs.
Xo Jeanette

thank you jeanette, it is almost 9 months ago flynn died.
i have an other cush dog ian, and his sister is showing signs of cushing too.
never a dull moment over here.
have to look into your topic to see what kind of cushing dog you have.
oh, i see you lost your dog a year ago, awful disease this cushing is!
i am lucky my ian is doing very well so far.
but like your princess and my flynn, it can be over real fast.

update;
ian is still doing fine on 20 mg of vetoryl and some fish oil.
the 3 of us went to the beach on tuesday-still pretty high temp. over here and sticky- and walked for 2 hours with a rest halfway sitting on top of the dunes watching the sea.
i am so spoiled with him [and enya]doing ok.
ian is on vetoryl since nov. 23, 2013.
his sister has a pot belly and arthritis, and i didn't put her back on vetoryl.
as long as she is doing well and feeling well i will wait till she has more cushing symptoms.
i still don't have the money to pay for all the tests, but if she is going to show discomfort i will visit the vet of course.
so, not too bad at all!

My heart goes out to you and your family.

That is great that Ian and Enya are doing so well. Still doing long walks I see.
We're at risk of first snow flurries tomorrow night. Yikes, not really ready for that yet.

It's great to hear from you again.

Take care,
hugs

So pleased to see an update from you, and pleased to hear things are going well with Ian and Enya, although sorry to hear it's still so hot.
We too have snow in our forecast, but have to wait until Sunday. OH is busy putting the snow tyres on and the Mustangs are tucked up until April.

Hi,Sorry to read about your Flynn. I can't imagine doing this more than once. Good your other pups are doing well.

it is hard for me to imagine snow on the ground as it will be 21 C [70F] over here tomorrow. on nov.1? not normal anymore.
maybe it sounds off, but i would love some snow for a change and the dogs certainly love it too!
it is warm/hot and sticky for almost a year now and cush dogs don't do too well in this weather.
i hope you don't get the long, cold winter you had last year with tons of snow.
is it normal to have snow already?
hope you and your dogs are doing fine, and till the next update.

I don't think it will stick around for very long. Probably only an hour or so. The ground isn't frozen or cold enough yet. So I'm thinking it's just a passing thing. 21c. That is crazy!

Hugs

yes, 21c is indeed crazy for nov. 1, but it will be cooler next week the weather man just said.
cush dogs like the cooler weather. mine certainly do so.
hope molly and all the other dogs on the forum are doing fine........

We've been out all evening and I'm just getting back, first thing I did was to take molly out.

Molly was loving the cooler weather tonight and just ran and ran from tree to tree or from sniffy spot to sniffy spot, it's 1C here right now.

Hugs!

1C.................brrrrr! it was about 17C today. down to 12 the rest of the week.
so glad that molly is feeling fine and is running through the garden...........so the vetoryl is doing her well?

We will know more after the follow up ACTH this Thursday.
Cross fingers that her numbers are actually coming down. We need this for her kidneys and high BP

Hugs

we will cross our fingers and paws for molly!

1C for us today, then 16C on Thursday :confused: :confused:

that is a big temperature jump...............................from snow suite------bikini!