Confused and Overwhelmed-Diagnosed Anal Sac Carcinoma (Woody has passed)

We,ve made it to the hospital, Woody is on IV fluids at the moment as he hasn't drank at all today and with him getting the diurectic last night the were worried about dehydration, they will keep him on it for an hour or so then he will be transferred to cardiology for tests ECG etc of the heart he will then be transfered back for a US and because silly mommy fed him they won't be using any sedation or if they have to then it will be very light. The have said it all fits with a pheo but due to his murmour need to rule out the heart first, they said the can do a specific blood test that would or could along with his symptoms that a pheo is the problem. So wait and see I,ll be here for a while but Woody is being kept in so I,ll stay as long as I can

I wouldn't worry too much about no sedation for the US. Keesh at 60 plus pounds couldn't be sedated. He hates his back too, but they got it done.

Thinking about you today and all you're going through.

I am just waiting and praying. God Bless you both
Patti

Just catching up on these posts...I'm sorry to see what's been going on with Woody. I'm sending positive thoughts and prayers for Woody and for you Tracy.

Barbara

Continued prayers and positive vibes sent your way. Kim

Hi Tracy
Just popping in before I head to work, hope you are getting some results and answers today and that Woody feels a better with the fluids and has had no more episodes either. Will check in later and hoping for some good news xxxx

I am just waiting and praying for you both. Just know many prayers are coming your way. Blessings
Patti

I,m home at last. Woody is doing not to bad, but will be staying overnight as they need to do more tests in the morning, and some obs.

The ECG has found that he indeed he has a grade 4 murmour, and it is stable at 120 bpm, which considering his stress is good. I am still waiting on the full report there was no fluid around the heart, so, so far so good on that. I was then allowed to walk him to de stress him and we walked around the car park and when we walked past my car he pulled over to it sat down and looked at me, like can we go now please, it was funny but took me ages to persuade him to go back inside the hospital. I had to take a urine sample from him and then he got some more obs taken, heart rate, pulse rate, bp all were quite high and they took his pulse on his back legs and they couldn,t count it as he was shaking that much poor wee lad. He then went for the US and he wasn,t away long when they came to get me he wouldn't stand for the US without being sedated and they really didn,t want to do that, they then noticed that Woody,s colouring had gotten pale, pale gums, pale eyes, and a pale tongue, they were concerned that he may collapse again so he was returned and put into the ICU unit on 10 min obs. They took the BP and it was 190 at this time gulp. I was allowed to go and sit with him in the ICU and sat with him on my knee for over an hour, his nurse Lorraine was really good with him and came every 10 mins on the dot to check on him. It was decided at this time that nothing else would be done to woody as they wanted him just to rest, which I was really glad at as he was shattered. He gets so stressed in these places. So tomorrow he will be getting his US depending on obs, they will also be speaking with the cardiology department regarding the pale colouring which seems to come and go, he will also be getting a urine test to test for the pheo, I said blood test earlier but indeed its a urine test oops should really listen, and they want the neurologist to have a look at him, if they are available as they didn,t like it when I said after an episode he walks with wooden legs. There really do think that it is a pheo that Woody has so should know tomorrow after the results are in. Woody had eaten some dinner and was settled when I left him. It is Emma the IMS that we originally saw that is on duty tonight, so she has put him on 30 min obs during the night for 3 hours and if all ok then hourly the rest of the night. He is in safe hands there as he knows Emma and likes her so he may well not be too stressed.:)

Forgot to say they checked Woodys, eyes tonight for any sign of blood vessels bursting due to the surge of blood to the head and Woody has the start of cataracs in both eyes, making it harder for them to see if any damage behind but they don,t think so.

Tracy:
I don't know how you are handling all this, but you are really doing a great job. So from what you are saying you should have some idea tomorrow what is happening. I am worried about you so please try and rest. I know you have been really stressed so take care of yourself. God bless Woody he is real live wonder dog. He is in the best place now, so try and unwind somehow. I am thinking and praying for a miracle to help Woody. I told Tipper today all about Woody, and told her to pray too. Blessings
Patti

Patti I deal with it by ranting on here and when it gets to much for me I go into the woods alone and scream it out lol

My lovely sister and niece came up to my house when I was at the hospital and I came home to a lovely sausage casserole and some fresh baking, I called them when I got home to thank them and my sister told me that she knows I,ve not been eating right and didn,t want me getting sick. I have to say it was delish.:D

Tracy, I hope that they get to the bottom of things. It sounds like Woody is in good hands. Daisy didn't need to be sedated for her US, she fell asleep as they did it! Must have thought it was an awesome belly rub :-)

It's hard when they don't like the vets. Daisy doesn't mind the IMS thankfully. Keeping you both in our thoughts.

i hope you and woody will both get some rest tonight and hopefully they find out what is wrong with him.

I hope Woody has a restful night, it must be some relief that he has the IMS who he knows there with him. Hoping all goes well and they figure this all out. Woody is such a trooper! Glad to hear you have your sister and niece there taking good care of you!!

Barbara

Holy Cow Tracy! So much going on. My heart was pounding as I was catching up on what was going on today.

I do hope they figure this out. hmmm, Snuggs (a beagle on the forum) had the test for the pheo and Trish and Song, both know a little bit about it too, so can give you some insight on that test.

The symptoms just all seem to jumble together sometimes, and I am sure that makes it even harder to get a firm reading on what is going on with Woody. When he is good, he is real good, but when he is bad, he is real bad. Very little in between staging for him.

A couple questions I think I'd ask would be about these episodes being since the surgery (any possible connection to the anesthesia or anything else) and that the second one was so much worse than the first one, including the during and after. What could the signify.

I'm so glad it is Emma on with him tonight as I'm sure he doesn't like to be away from you for this stuff.

So nice of the family to come over and fix a meal for you! What sweethearts they are. They are probably quite worried about you and Woody. The dears.

Well, we are here, scream, rant, whatever you need to do. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Ok Tracy now that you got my mouth watering for some of that sausage casserole and they baked yet??? Wow what a fantastic family that loves you and Woody so much. I bet Woody would have liked to have some of that casserole too. Sleep good tonite friend we are all here for you. Oh I may need to get that recipe!! Blessings
Patti

I've just called the hospital for an update on the boy, Emma said he had been moved out of ICU as he was getting too stressed by the dog next to him so they have moved him into a side room away from all digs with a blanket and bed. She checked on him and he as fast asleep all 4 legs in the air lol I told her how I appreciated that she moved him to lower his stress levels and she said nothing's too good for Woody as everyone is talking about him and his case lol

I'm so tired but my mind won't let me sleep. Patti I can't cook worth a jot just basic stuff my sister is a chef and is fab at making me food :p

Oh so glad they moved Woody. He doesn't need to be stressed out right now.

oh yum, a chef that cooks for you! Gotta love sisters that cook. My sister bakes, she's pretty good too. Now I'm missing being with her at the holidays. drat!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Tests will be more accurate without the added stress. I'm glad they have moved him and that he's able to sleep.

Hi Tracy
I am home from work and you will be getting up soon, hopefully you have news that Woody has had a good nights rest in his own private room! They sound like they are taking very good care of him and so nice Emma was on as she loves our boy too.

Hope you had a little catchup on sleep yourself, feels so weird when they are not there doesn't it. Think I need a bit of an early night myself after the late one last night :D but will be here or round about a few hours yet! xx

Hospital have just called. He,s had quiet a good night, his obs were good but there was times when his heart rate was high, but did settle down, I think that would be the stress. Laura the daytime IMS is not convinced that his heart is ok, so wants cardiology to have another look at him, as at times last night he went pale for a little while then back to pink (which is what I saw with him) He will also come home with a 24 hour monitor on. Does anyone have experience of what that its.

Neurology department will be seeing him today, he will have his US, he has had a rectal examine to try and determine maybe what is causing the colitis and he will also have the urine test to check for the pheo. So lots going on for him today I hope his stress levels holds up.

I,m alright have a bad migraine, think its stress or lack of sleep but will stay strong for the wee man. So lots more positive thoughts needed for him.

Trish - you deserve an early night and thank you so much for staying up to talk to me I really appreciated it as it kept me calm. :D

Doc isn't convinced. Hmmmm, best to be safe. Sending prayers!

Tracy:
Is it an echocardiogram that they did on Woody? If so I would think that would tell them if his heart is functioning properly. I am not so sure they are going to find anything out about his blood pressure as he is in a stressful environment. I am hoping the tests he undergoes today are going to produce some solid answers for you. I feel bad that you have headache from all this. I know it is so easy to forget about yourself during these times as you are just concentrating on Woody. Me telling you to not get stressed out is like the pot calling the kettle black. Just know I am thinking of both of you during this trying time. When I talk to Tipper about Woody she just keeps turning her head back and forth like what do you mean. So you sister is s chef? I would be staying on her good side and get her an xtra special Christmas present. I am still thinking of that sausage casserole! I will be praying and waiting to see word on Woody. This kind of stuff can age you 10 years. Blessings
Patti

Heading work soon, but wanted to check in on your and Woody. Glad he had a good night. Also glad they are going to check him out thoroughly.

The heart monitors shows what his heart does during normal activity. They use it for people too.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin

Yes, like Sharlene said, the monitor will periodically record his heart rate during all periods of his normal daily routines. I have worn one several times myself. Our Wonder Dog really is a mystery! But I am glad to see he had a fairly good night and hope he is home very soon.

Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

I,ve not heard back from the hospital yet, so no news is good news right! I,ve cleaned the house, wrapped the Christmas presents without a nosey wee dog sitting on the paper and have been and bought Woody his favourite toy a plush squeaky raccoon for his Christmas but have hidden it up high so he can,t find it. I,m sure he can sniff out toys at 50 paces :D Just keeping myself busy until they ring. Thank you everyone for keeping me and Woody "the Legend" in your thoughts.

Tracy:
I had one of those on twice. Not sure if it is the same type for a dog or not. It sends records data and they can pick up on things happening with the heart rate and rhythm. They have a cardiologist read it then. Hope all is good is Woody World today and that you get to see your boy soon. Blessings Patti

The hospital have just called me, Woody is a real sick little puppy and won,t be coming home tonight. So please bare with me as this may not read properly.

ECG - Found no fluid around the heart, and some Mitral Valve issues disease but stable at the same time. I knew this from his previous history.
Nerology report - Woody presented fine and no problems where found.

Ultrascan - Woody had to be lightly sedated for this as he wouldn,t settle. The ultrascan found the adrenal gland to be the same size 9.9mm as on previous scans it hadn,t changed in colour/appearance. The ultrascan also found a tumour on his Liver which covered three quarters of it :eek: They also found a small tumour in his gut :eek:
They said Woody was in pain due to the liver mass (I can,t have him in pain) so they are giving him IV pain relief so he has to stay in the hospital tonight. She has spoken with Ian Woody,s oncologist and he is going to call me later tonight to discuss things. They are shocked at how fast this has grown in less that 2 months as they two tumours weren,t there on his last US about 6/7 weeks ago. They reckon woody,s collapse is from the pain of the tumour, which is why he is taking his time to recover from these. I am in bits my boy is in pain, the one thing I didn,t want for him. I will update when Ian calls later. :mad:

Tracy:
I am so, so sorry. I know you must be a wreck. I never wanted to hear anything like this. God Bless You and Woody.
Patti

Oh my word! That did come on fast. With them not being present 6-7 weeks ago, it would have never occurred to me to think about something like this causing his collapses. wow...what a shock this has to be to you and his whole team.

Please know we are right by your side and waiting with you for Ian's report and recommendations.

Positive thoughts, prayers, and healing energies flying yours and Woody's way,
Leslie and the gang

I checked in from work and appreciate the updates and am so sorry you are going through all of this. I am praying at my desk for you and your boy. Have faith and know we are all right there by your side right now in spirit. Love, Kim

Prayers and positive thoughts from me too and all of us.

Oh no, that is not the news we were wanting. Is it operable? Sometimes these large liver tumours, like Flynn's are able to be removed and sometimes they are the better tumours to have in the liver rather than little ones right through it. When Flynn had his massive liver tumour in 2011 and collapsed (they still think it may have been the pheo in its early stages) but the other theory was because of its size it was pressing on the blood vessels and that is what caused his collapse. He also had a bit of it on his omentum involved - maybe similar to what they think is on his gut? You have seen how Flynn has got through his surgery so I hope they are consulting a surgeon too.

Pleased to hear the good cardiology and neuro reports Tracy. Also glad they have given him pain relief. Waiting on tenterhooks for Ian's update. I really am hoping something can be done for Woody and am here right alongside you until we hear more. xxxxx

Me too! My thoughts and prayers are with you also. ((((HUGS))))

Thanks everyone no call from Ian yet. Trish I think this is why Laura the IMS kept saying Ian wants to talk to you when I asked if surgery was an option she just repeated that Ian would call me , I think because he is Ian's patient that he will be better to answer all my questions. I honestly hardly heard anything after she said he was in pain I am trying to get myself together enough to ask Ian everything, hope I don't breakdown like I did when Laura rung earlier. Surgery finishes at 7 so Ian should ring after his clinic I would think

Trish sorry but do you know of anything else I need to ask Ian as my mind is blank

Your OK Tracy, deep breaths :) I so know how you feel as I was facing this just last month. I am not giving up until the fat lady sings... hold on until that phone call. Have you got someone with you? Call your sister and niece sweets

I would be asking about the actual tumour, is it operable, have you talked to surgeon. What part of the gut is involved, could the tumour be coming from that or could it be a bit of spread from the liver. Does it relate to what they found in the lymph node? Have they rechecked the initial scans to see whether there was any sign of it then

Trish - I prefer to be on my own in times like this. I know some answers to the questions you stated. They (Laura) reckons that the original diseased lymph node which was removed and indicated Anal Sac Carcinoma, was infact in his gut the whole time but didn,t show up on orginal or second US she has checked both. She also thinks it has then spread to the liver so its went from Left Iilac Lymph Node - Gut - Liver but it should have went LILN-Anal Sac but we all know by now Woody doesn,t like rules so he doesn,t follow them lol I,ll see what Ian says when he rings, I keep shouting at the phone ring, ring but alas its not. I feel sick :eek:

I'm sending prayers and love to you and Woody.

I can imagine how sick you are feeling. We are right here along with you feeling the same way. I really hope Ian gives you all your answers and Woody, God Bless Him, for being just the sweet boy he is.