Tipper - adrenal tumor/breathing issues

Sharlene, Mel, Valerie, and Everyone:
I was anticipating monitoring Tipper last night, but again she went to the closet. I think it has become a safe haven for her in so much as she knows she doesn't have to keep waking up and worrying if it is going to storm and she is safe. Unfortunately I could not listen to her breathing, or swallowing again. I will just try again tonight. The other part that makes this tuff is she gets these pill in the morning and at bed time. So they are starting to wear off when she lays down and it is not giving me a true indication if it's working or not. That is why I need to keep her in bed for a few hours until the bed time dose starts to work. From what I have seen it appears she is not sticking her tongue out as much, and I don't hear that sticky sound when she is trying to clear her throat. I talked to my Vet yesterday about my experience at the IMS. He was kind of shocked a vet would act like this. He did tell me that he has another Jack Russell that is having throat and swallowing issues and they are taking the dog to Pgh to the same hospital in the next 2 weeks to get scoped. He said to hold off until he learns how it went with this dog, and how this dog recuperated afterwards. I am getting scared if I don't find out what this is that it is taking such a toll on Tipper that she may have a real emergency situation. Oh I got a fax from the nasty IMS that saw Tipper yesterday with a complete estimate on this whole procedure. Now instead of a couple thousand we are talking between 3-4. This is so wrong, how can the average person living on a fixed income afford this?? The really bad part is that I used so much of my savings on Tipper's diagnosis and testing, and treatment. Then this comes up out of the blue. I am really scraping the bottom of the barrel for money. I think I may have to get some work from home. I didn't want to do that, as I wanted to spend whatever time Tipper has left being with her exclusively. This disease really has robbed so many people of quality time with their beloved babies. No one ever said life was fair, but this disease can really put you over the edge even when you are trying anything to keep it from progressing. I try to take video of Tipper all the time, especially if she barks as I always want to be able to hear her voice and see her. God Bless You All and all your babies.
Patti

Patti-God bless you and Tipper. Never in my wildest nightmares did I think I would be dealing with something this incredibly hard physically, mentally, emotionally and financially. Why can't someone figure this horrible thing out and be able to help our precious babies. I'm sorry to hear you may have to look for work from home. I hope things get better for Tipper and you. Hugs

Hey Patti

Bless her, I wish these storms would disappear for you as its horrible she is scared, you want them near you when they are like that but they don't want to be. Boyce is the same he goes to our bathroom and I cant get him out till he is ready which can be hours.

Maybe the other JR can give your vet an indicator of what it could be with tipper, it's hard as they can be so different sometimes. It's so confusing when they say one thing and the IMS says another. I hope for a miracle for everyone all the time

What has changed on the quote? Seems a bit of a jump. It's not fair that it costs so much to do all these procedures. Surely it can't cost them that much..

Hope she is having a good day today and that you don't get storms tonight

Big hug, kisses for Tipper

Mel
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Mel:
Yes quite a big jump in the quote. I think the more they see you love you dog, the higher the bill as they know you will do anything to save their lives. It has just become a big business, and the animals don't even get any consideration any more. I am so sacred I see changes in Tipper that scare me. The other person on here George, his dog passed so suddenly and it scares me to death. I took her today for her laser treatmant and she did not even want to sit still for that. She is not normally bad there, and not wanting to sit down. She won't go out on our front porch or in the back yard and she loves it outside. It is breaking my heart to see her like this. She shakes at the slightest noise from anything. Before she got Cushings in the summer we stayed out all day as she did not want to come in. I am scared I will not have her long if this continues. I have just been crying everytime something wierd happens, and so worried about her throat issues. I have been down in one of those deep dark holes for a few days now since the trip to Pittsburgh. I 'll get out of it I just have to keep busy. I hope you are doing well, I wish you lived near me you are a good friend. God Bless you and your baby.
Patti

Oh sweetheart, you build yourself up for these appointments praying for the best but secretly thinking the worst. So to be insulted and then get no real answer to the questions you wanted answering is frustrating.

I know that every little thing is noticed as you don't know if it means anything and that can take its toll on you

I read George's post too, it was a horrible thing to happen, I think you have to try as hard as it is to put those thoughts to the back of your mind. One day or one hour at a time, you know your girl and you would move heaven and earth to do what you could for her, none of us know what is around the corner but you can't anticipate that

Am sure those storms have probably got a lot to do with her behaviour. When they keep on happening I think the pups expect it, Boyce is the same with fireworks, he is like it for about 4 weeks even when there aren't any. He hears a loud noise and goes running

We are all here to help you through those dark days as we all have felt them ourselves. I am right here with you. Feel that big hug I am sending

Kisses to Tipper

Mel
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Hey Patti, I'm sending you a big hug to comfort you will all your worries about Tipper, it's so hard isn't it? Every little thing we notice in our pups, they can't even age like normal pups, too much going on with their bodies...praying that Tipper settles down and gets calmer for you and that she's not scared of things...take care, here for you!

Hi Patti, while I was reading your thread I was struck by something, and that is cortisol is a natural mechanizm of the body in reaction to anything, a storm, a sound, a smell, it goes up and down all day long in reaction to outside stimuli. When we are treating dogs for high cortisol levels, we bring that level down and the medicine basically keeps it in balance, so it doesn't shoot up and down in a normal reactive mode now.
That is why when some dogs say do something that they might enjoy alot or something that scares them, often people will let the cortisol come up a bit, so that buffer is there to help them.
Tippers last levels are at the lowest that we've seen during her testing and it could be that this level doesn't allow for her to be able to process things as she is use to, as her body is use to. Just something to think about. Not every dog is great at the same levels. Some have controlled symptoms at post 9, some at post 3, some do really well at an intermediate level. I'm just thinking, I might be inclined to let Tippers come up a point or so and see how she does.
It is possible since this other JR has the same type of throat issues that this is something completely unrelated to the cushings. I wonder if any other JR's have had this.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hi Patti,

Sharlene is on to something here I think. Squirt has had only one very small dose of Lyso since last Mon and she handled a storm better than she has in ages last week. We have storms starting today and going for the next four days so we will see how she does. I'm not seeing signs in Squirt other than an increase in appetite - but that is a more normal level, not the cush appetite.

Another thing I am noticing about her without the Lyso - her night time lip smacking has stopped and her nose isn't running like it used to from time to time. So now I'm wondering if lowering the cortisol increases production of mucous and saliva...or are these signs all related to allergies allowed to surface with treatment. :confused: We need more research on this disease and the treatments! I'm with you all the way there.

I hope sweet Tipper is feeling a bit better with the allergy med and that you get a chance to observe her to see how it is working. ;)

Keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers,
Leslie and the gang

Mel, Leslie, Sharlene, Lettie:
I think Leslie has unknowingly unlocked another clue for me about Tippe, and a lot of other dogs on here. I know Sharlene is right about the low cortisol and storms, Tipper's cortisol may be even lower than it was before as I have not had a new ACTH yet it will be due shortly. The vet thinks that is what made her stop eating because the cortisol was too low, and the storm started and she could not handle it at her cortisol level.
Leslie you said something that made me really think on it. I know there is a connection between Tipper's mucus or post nasal drip and this Cushings. She never had this before. She never snored before either. Most of the posst on here talk about dogs smacking their lips,snoring, and runny noses. These are symptoms of what Tipper has as the IMS did tell me that. So there is a common thread with all these dogs and nose, breathing, and tongue licking and smacking. This Cushings causes something to go wrong inside their nasal area. I read where someones dog developed a polyp like tumor in the nasal cavity. The post nasal drip etc. is said to be a sign of airway disease, so this is all connected somehow. Leslie when you said about Squirts runny nose that put me onto it. You dog is on Lysodren and mine on Vetoryl so it can't be the drugs it has to be the Cushings. The nasal thing is what is causing Tipper to struggle breathing at night. Also if you read Georges post about his dog passing away, and blood came from it's nose, that ties in with it too. I must get to the bottom of this because I feel it could either help or save some dogs on here. Anyone that goes to an IMS please question them about this issue as we need as much information to figure this out as we can get. The other Jack Russell doesn't have the same issues as Tipper Sharlene, sorry if I confused everyone with my post. The other Jack has some breathing issues, don't know if it has Cushings. Also what I found out a while back when Tipper started getting sick was that Tipper's sister died of liver disease. Could it have been high liver values from Cushings and the Vet just like my vet was so inexperienced with Cushings that he thought it was liver disease. So this could be hereditary?? So maybe she did not die from liver disease alone?? Anyone who has a dog with these symptoms please let me know what they are doing and when it started. I am going to call my Vet since I had Tipper's sisters records sent to my vet and ask him to check her Alk Phos levels on the records. He told me to increase the drug I am giving Tipper for the mucus/post nasal drip to 1 full tablet at bedtime. I observed her last night for a while, then she left the bed, which is unlike her. She has always slept up against me all night. She did not do the throat clearing or tongue sticking out as much, and I could not hear that sticky noise. So maybe this is helping her, but the dosage is not high enough. I will let you know what happens tonight with the increased dosage I hope it completely stops it. It would be a God send not to have to put her thru a procedure to determine what this is. If it is mucus, the Cushings must do something to their sinuses that causes it. God Bless You All and your babies.
Patti

Patti, it does sound like Charlene is onto something!
Hope that Tipper feels better soon! It's so scary watching them not being their usual selves.

Hello you

Maybe it's worth discussing the theory with the vet and adjusting her doseage through storm season... It could be the medicine is affecting the way her body would usually handle the effects of a storm

Hope you are feeling a bit better today?

Big hug, kisses to Tipper the Ripper (hope she feels like that soon!)

Mel
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Hi Patti
Just wanted to say thank you for all your love and support.The shock of losing Fella has lessened somewhat and I've finally been able to start reading your threads.My heart is with you and Tipper!.Its awful to worry about them so much and feel so helpless.And all we want is the very best for them and I hate that we have the added worry of trying to fig out how we can afford the treatment!Big hug to both you and Tipper and hope the storms have passed.
Love,
Patty

Hi Patty,:)
I read your post on the runny noses. I found it very interesting. Buddy has had a lot of issues with his allergies since his cortisol level dropped after starting Trilostane. He gets the runny nose, sneezing and wheezing thing. After reading about Tipper's issues, I wonder if some of Buddy's so called allergy symptoms could be Cushings related. Yes, Buddy does have many allergies, but this could be a new twist on it.
Sending a big wind your way to blow those big,bad storms away!
Many hugs to you and Tipper,
Kathy and Buddy:cool:

Hope you and Tipper had a good nite. Marcela's baby, Nina, is in the hospital...say a prayer for them this morning, 'k?

Leslie:
Tipper and I are both praying for Marcella's baby. I hope all goes well. Tipper was not well last night and she is not real great this morning either. Please read the post to Valerie and Daisy and you will see. God Bless You and Squirt, and May God Bless Marcella and her baby at this difficult time.
Patti

Mel:
Pray for Tipper she is not well today, and it is scaring me. Please read the post I made to Valerie and Daisy. GOd Bless you for all your support, I need it. Blessings
Patti

Hi Sweetie,

I know you are distraught so I'm copying your post to Valerie here on Tipper's thread so you don't have to retype this. I want to be sure everyone who is watching Tipper's story reads this post -

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...The hospital wants to schedule the procedure with Tipper with another IMS. Tipper is not getting better with the drug I have been giving her for post nasal drip, so I guess that is not the answer. I am really scared now. I stupidly thought this would be the answer. I am so scared they will come back and tell me the best thing to do would be to put her down. I would be hysterical at that point. I have been crying since they called this morning, going back and forth on what to do. I am so petrified something will happen to her during this procedure. How much more of her can I really ask?? She has done everything so far like a real trooper, but this is much more involved. I am just sick inside at the thought of either more bad news or having to say goodbye to my baby girl way before I am ready to. I am torn on what to do, out of not want ing to let go of her. God Help Us Both.
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I have never had a vet fail to tell me if they thought what they wanted to do would be more than my baby could withstand - they always spoke up. I feel like Tipper's vet knows how very special she is to you and would tell you if they thought she couldn't take this procedure but if it will help you, ask the vet what they would do if Tipper were theirs - would they do this or not? It's so easy for us moms to see the worst in everything while the vets see something else entirely...and sometimes we have no choice but to trust their expertise and instincts. So ask what they would do in your shoes.

Patti, learn a lesson from me - don't waste one precious second worrying about the next second. Don't lose time with Tipper that can never be reclaimed. I wasted almost a whole month with Squirt fretting over what was to come and I missed so many opportunities to just sit with her, touching her and talking to her. We can never get that month back and she doesn't have that many months left that we can afford to lose a single one. So lay a blanket in the closet floor next to Tipper and talk to her. Touch her with your loving, familiar touch. Tell her your fears, your hopes, promise her you will always do the best for her no matter the cost to you. Don't let your agony shut Tipper out like I did with Squirt. Our baby girls need us to be by their sides now more than ever. We don't have to be strong, we just have to be honest with them and with ourselves.

We are right beside you, sweetie. You are never alone.
Many hugs and gentle belly rubs,
Leslie and the gang

My dear Mel,
Yes, it's scary! :eek: I am so sorry:( I will putting my prayers into hyper-drive for you and very special baby girl.

Many hugs and much love,
Kathy and Buddy:cool:

Hi

I have been sending you positive mojo all day I just didn't get chance to tell you so cause of work

I am so sorry to read this latest development I had hoped you were onto something with the OTC stuff

It is so difficult to know which way to turn in these situations, did you manage to speak to the vet to get their input like Leslie suggested?

Please know that whatever you decide I am here for you as are all the others and we all hope for the very best outcome for your girl. Let us know when you can how you are both doing

Big hug, kisses to Tipper

Mel
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I'm sorry Patti,:(
I accidentally called you Mel in my last message. I did know you name and do feel so sad for you and your precious Baby. Pease forgive my blunder.

Much love and prayers,
Kathy and Buddy:cool:

Hi Patti, thinking of you and Tipper. What is going on with Tipper today? You said she isn't well.
What exactly is it that they want to do for 7000 dollars? That was the cost of a complete surgery at the university hospital with over night and after care, so I'm a bit bewildered by the pricing. And it went up after your last visit. Did they answer you at all concerning your email about the first IMS?

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hey, how are my girls doing. You have been on my mind since you posted yesterday. Hope you are both ok?

Sending more prayers, positive mojo, hugs and lots and lots of love, hope you can feel it....

Let us know when you can

Mel
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How are you and Tipper doing?! Worried about you.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers, sweetie. Let us hear from you when you can.

Mel,Sharlene, Leslie, Kathy:
What I meant by Tipper not being good was she was having trouble breathing again, drinking water and panting at times. At night her chest was really heaving up and down and I could hear the wheezing as she tried to breath. Her respiration seemed very rapid also. She has just not been acting the same, she is distant, not coming around, and still not wanting to stay out on the porch that she love. She gets her ACTH testing on the 8th. As I stated before the hospital tenatively scheduled her for this procedure on the 14th. I am going to the Vets office on the 8th as my cat is sick and Tipper gets her Acth so I will discuss what to do in detail with him. I did not send any complaint letters to the hospital about Tipper's experience with the IMS as I thought about it and maybe shouldn't burn that bridge in case of any emergency that could not be handled here. They have several other IMS'in that hospital, so I don't have to ever see the nasty one. I am going to have to amke a decision on what to do here asap. I know if I don't get to the bottom of what is going on with her she may so go on too much longer. The breathing problem, and throat issues are mounting up and have to be dealt with as much as I want to stick my head in the sand and ignore them. She will be getting a Ct scan also so they said they will know the size of her tumor. That is what has me petrified. If they come and tell me she has a macro I will meltdown on the spot. My other two fears are if they find something and I am out of money to treat it, then I just threw away 3000-4000 on finding out what it is, or if this procedure puts her in a weakened condition and she starts to go down hill because of it. I am back and forth on this. I did notice this morning again mucus in her eyes, and her nose running like so many others have said. Could it be the pills are just not taking away all the post nasal drip. I would hate to waste all the money I have left only to find post nasal drip. Could you please give me some opinions??? I am as a loss. At least the appointment is almost 2 weeks away and I can cancel it. Leslie thank you for copying and transferring that post to Valerie. I was not paying attention so I screwed it up. Please pray for my Tipper. Iam praying to God to tell me what is the best thing to do. I am very frightened to do the wrong thing and make matters worse. God Bless All of you for your constant help and support. Sharelene the procedure is closer to 4000.00 now form 2000. These places just rob you. I still need moeny left for her ACTH and meds, this is a crime what they are charging. Blessings
Patti

Patti,
here is the link to Care Credit online. http://www.carecredit.com/vetmed/.

My father used this same company to pay for his dentures. He had 12 months to pay without interest. You have to find out what is causing this for Tipper please. Poor thing doesn't sound at all comfortable and you are an emotional wreck sweetie.

If you have the names of the other IMS docs who work at this hospital, look up their names and customer views online so that you can pick one who others have liked. Neither you or Tipper need another bad experience.

HUGS!!!!

Hi Everyone:
I decided while laying awake again last night that I am going to try Akron Animal Hospital for an IMS and see if I get anywhere there. I am just going to talk to someone over the phone as that is another 2 1/2 hour trip. I want to see how much experience they have with this sort of thing. Tipper slept ok last night, not too much labored breathing. It seemed she did not have to much of the throaty issue either. I am wondering if the drug for post nasal is just not working all the way for her. I may go back to the Benedril tonight and see if that works better for a few nights. Then at least I will have a better idea if that is the problem. I had only tried it 1 night, I will try again for a few nights starting tonight as it makes her sleepy too. She did drink more water yesterday and pant some, but it was starting to get hot here. Leslie I know it is hot in Arkansas I hope you have a way of cooling your babies down, and everyone else in the hot climates I hope you do too. These Cush dogs no longer have the ability to cool themselves in their core like they used to so I hope everyone takes extra precautions. I have a cooling pack in Tipper's harness when she walks. It is lightweight so as not to weigh her down too much. I thought of going to the store and getting one, but they were all to heavy for her to carry. I got this one on Amazon, the harness has a pouch right under their core area to cool them. I will post on what I find out about Akron that is my last hope that is close enough to get to for us. God Bless Us All and all our babies
Patti

Typically we are getting rather warm by now but this year is weird. We set an historical record yesterday for our state - the northern part of the state got up to 5" of snow! First recordable snow in May in Ark in history! Our temps are running about 20 degrees below normal this week. I love it as do all my babies except Brick - he doesn't handle cold very well. Squirt won't stay out very long when it gets really hot; she does he business and come right back to the AC. This house has floor vents and she has claimed the ones in my closet and bathroom as HERS! :D She'd sit on them last summer! :p

Our walks are typically in the field and woods near the house and only Sophie has to be on a lead - the others stick close by and in Squirt's case can't run fast enough to escape anyway. ;) I've taken them out to events in the area, tho, when it was quite warm and that harness would be nice for them then. We went to a kite flying event last summer and after saying hello to everyone, all three wanted in the truck with the AC on. LOL Needless to say, we went home shortly after.

I hope you and Tipper have a good day. Do let us know what they have to say in Akron and how you feel about that conversation.

Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

Hi Patti,

I know I have not posted often, but I have been following everything that has been going on for you and sweet Tipper. I do understand the possible importance of proceeding with the diagnostics associated with her throat and her breathing. But I am wondering whether you really want to also put the expense into a CT scan unless you think you would actually proceed with radiation treatment in the event the pituitary tumor is indeed enlarging. It's true that you'd know the size of the tumor for sure, and so maybe that would make the testing valuable to you. But it is also a lot of money that perhaps you rather spend in other ways as far as keeping Tipper as comfortable as possible. Just a thought to throw out there. I know that the uncertainty of all of this can be so very hard to shoulder. :o

Marianne

Hello:
I was told the Ct scan was to guide them with any throat or nasal issues, but that it could also show her tumor size. They were not strictly doing it to see the tumor. I just gave her some Benedril so we will see if that works better and if it is truly psot nasal drip that is thick. Thank you for keeping up with my precious Tipper's story. This has been a rough road for us, and I am trying as so many others are to keep her as long as possible. God Bless You
Patti

Hi Patti,
Sending mega hugs, prayers, and lots of love to you and Tipper.:)
Kathy and Buddy:cool:

Sure have been thinking about you and Tipper, sending hugs!

Good Morning Everyone:
Thank you all for keeping Tipper in your thoughts. Yesterday was an ok day, and last night Tipper was a little restless. It makes me nervous as when she pants sometimes I don't know if it is the heat or the Cushings! She gets another ACTH on Wednesday and I guess we will see then. I had been noticing Tipper biting at her foot, but she would not let me touch it. I can see a red bump above her toenail, and now she is constantly lisking it. Her personality has changed so much that if I try to look at it she will bite me, she has never done this before. I guess I will have to wait until Wednesday and have the vet look at it and treat it. She needs something on the foot to make her stop licking it. I cannot put an E collar on her, as I cannot restrict her neck. I need the vet to wrap it up in something indistructable for a few days so it heals. She has not had any of the skin issues like many of the babies have, so I wonder if this could be one?? Last night when I tried to give her the Benedryl she fought me. She is getting sick of all this crap, I think she has had enough. I only has the liquid so I could not get it in her. I will get the pills asap and try them in food it is easier thatn fighting with her. Even though she is sick she is still very powerful, and she gets angry very fast now. It is a darn shame the things these poor babies have to go through. I did take her to the llama farm again yesterday, she loves watching them, and they came up close to her and stood there and she loved it. Any little bit of enjoyment I can give her I try to. My one neighbor called me yesterday and said "I never see you too much out on your porch, why don't you come up and vist me?" I said "Tipper has not been well and I have to stay with her as she is having many issues." She said " Are you going to let that dog ruin your summer?" I said "any time I spend with her makes my summer, it doesn't ruin it!" That really burned me up when she said that, why bother calling someone only to upset them? If you don't like the fact I spend all my time with my dog, just leave me alone that is all I ask. Some people just will never get it. The connection I have with this dog is stronger than any bond I have with people. Hope all of us have a quiet weekend. Blessings
Patti

It's sad to me that most folks don't get it. There were some gals I went to high school with who reconnected a few years ago and we started spending time together, having a ball. But if one of my babies wasn't doing well, I stayed home with them instead of going places with the girls. Some didn't understand and I learned several of them were ridiculing me for worrying about "dumb dogs" instead of out spending money I couldn't spare to be part of their activities. When Tasha died, only 2 of them said anything to me, offering condolences. The others glossed over her passing and my grief, choosing to make fun of me instead both in group conversations and in public on Facebook (one of them posted that I had chosen a "dead dog LOLOLOL" over lunch with them :() - even tho I had been there for all of them through various crisis' in their lives. Guess what? I have no need for those "friends" any longer. ;)

Some folks just don't have the capacity to feel the depth of love we do for our babies - we are the lucky ones! :)

Tipper's toe is a bit worrying to me and I think I would be taking her in Mon to have it looked at. If this is an infection it might cause a delay in the testing on the throat so I would want to start getting it addressed as soon as possible just in case. ;) I know that would mean an extra trip and stress for Tipper but giving an infection two more days to get hold would be scary to me. But then, I'm a nervous nelly! :D Would she let you soak the foot in Betadine or some such?

Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

The Betadine iodine may help it and you dont need to rinse it off and it does not hurt them if they lick the paw afterward.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...foot-bath.aspx

I give Zoe treats and tell her how lucky she is to get a spa day while she is in the soak and then she does not mind it.;)

Leslie and Addy:
I am going to soak Tipper's foot in the Betadine. Leslie I was really sick at my stomach when you told me about your so called girl friends. I have had similar things done to me because of Tipper. What cruel, stupid, people we sometimes associate ourselves with!! I would take my dog over so called friends any day, as you see what they can do to you. People can be so mean and hurtful, and not to mention no empathy whatsoever. I only involve myself now with people that understand my situation with Tipper. In the end the so called friends are the ones who miss out, and will never know the love of a wonderful companion and true friend. Tipper is my world and whoever does not like it can stay away. She has dedicated her life to being my loyal and loving companion, and I owe it to her to be with her in her time of need.
I would give everything I have if Tipper could be made well again. Material things mean nothing to me anymore. The love of my precious Tipper means more to than anything. I pray to God to have mercy on her and to give her a miracle every day. There is absolutely nothing on this earth that I cherish more than her companionship. God Bless Us All and all the babies we so diligently care for.
Patti

Just popping in to give you a hug a kiss or two for sweet Tipper

Hope the foot soak helps and that she will stay still for it!

Thinking of you

Mel
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Mel:
You are an angel about always checking on my Tipper. God Bless You.
Patti

Leslie and Addy:
I did soak Tipper's foot in Betadine. She gave me some grief over it, but I got it done. Seems that she left it alone for a while. Maybe that soothed it. I will have to call my Vet tomorrow morning and tell him. Blessings
Patti

I hope it helps, Patti. Make sure the water is warmish not cold. Zoe hated her bath, but I made sure the water was warm not coldish, then we plopped her in the sink I sudsed her all up and she had to stand for ten minutes like that so hubby fed her chichen, tiny pea size pieces every 45 seconds to a minute and now she loves her bath:D My girl is so easy to bribe;)