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Hey Tina, Hope you are getting some answers and that poor Jasper is starting to settle down a bit. It's scary when they get that sick, for you to have to worry about all the other bits too is just rough. Crossing fingers for you that he just ate something you didn't see and he will bounce back easily.
Take care.
Oh Tina,
I am so sorry you were alone last night dealing with all of this.:o:( I have connected a few times during the night and no one's been around. It can be very lonely. I would have been happy to stay up with you through the night, if I had known. You certainly spent plenty of nights staying up with me through the wee hours.
I hope you are able to get Jasper in to the vet this morning. I will be anxiously awaiting an update. There has been so much poo lately, that is should be able to used for good, maybe to power at least a small city.:D
Many hugs and healing energy coming to you and sweet Jasper. Xxxxx
Checking back to see if you have updates
OMG what a night to go to bed without checking in, I am so sorry I was not here Tina, I was out late and just crashed when I got in. :o
How is our boy Jasper today, I hope he is getting some fluids at the vet, antinausea meds and his results are ok this morning. What a night you have had, you must be exhausted.
Will be waiting anxiously for an update sweet, big hugs for you and the boy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks so much everyone for the support and kind words. I did get Jasper in to the vet. It's a miracle but my vet is working today, however all her appts were full. I had to drop Jasper off first thing and she said she would squeeze him in between her scheduled appts. I am so very grateful for that.
She just called and I provided the specifics about what happened yesterday and last night with Jasper. Well it seems that he is sicker than I thought (!) and she is keeping him in the hospital tonight. :( :eek: She will re-evaluate things in the morning to see if he can come home tomorrow but said he may need to stay another night. I think they have staff there until about 10 pm and then he will be alone over night. :( :eek: :( They are closed tomorrow but she will be checking him in the morning.
It seems he has a lot going on again unfortunately, and I am pretty torn up right now. I just wanted to check in now so you all wouldn't be worried. Gosh, it sure doesn't take long for things to go to pot, does it? I will say that the main big concerns lab value wise are that his sodium was way low at 123 (138-154 mmol/L). His potassium was high normal thankfully but the sodium is definitely an Addison's concern.
The new big scary thing is that his ALT which has shown mild elevation in the past and was WNL on the last check on 8/3, is now sky high at 1280 (< 100 IU/L). :eek: :( His ALP has gone up more also which is obviously not good, but it seemed her big concern is the ALT. So off I go to do some research on liver function tests. She had a lot to say which I will try to get posted later. I am a bit torn up right now with this latest turn of events. I am trying to not panic, but feel pretty worried. Please keep my boy in your prayers.
Love and hugs,
Tina and Jasper
Pleased he is in there getting checked out Tina, remember sometimes those lab in house tests can show higher than they really are. I have especially found that on liver tests.
Is there any way you can bring him home overnight, even with fluids which I am sure you will be able to manage?
What are they giving him to manage the sodium?
Sitting here worrying right along with you Tina xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Did she do the pancreatitis test? That can put up ALT
Prayers rising, healing energies, hugs, and gentle belly rubs flying your way, Tina. Let us hear from you as you feel up to it and know we are all right by your side.
Thanks you guys. Big hugs.. Sorry, I had started to type my last post and then my mom called in the middle of it so it took a while for me to get it finished and entered.
Trish, my vet wanted to keep Jasper there in case he continued to have vomiting as she did not want me to have to try to give him oral meds tonight and the rest of the weekend if the vomiting wasn't under control. He is getting injectable medication for nausea and also got injectable Dex. He will also get an antibiotic injection today. He is getting subq fluids which she said he is tolerating well. I can't remember why she said they went with subq rather than IV but she did explain and it made sense. She gave him a Percorten injection to manage the sodium, she feels this is due to his Addison's. Remember, we discontinued the Percorten after the June injection as his electrolytes remained stable and it wasn't indicated. I am wondering if it isn't a delayed reaction or something. We talked about that, and a whole bunch of other things. She mentioned that she is going to consult with our only IMS in town again. She has consulted with him on at least two prior occasions about Jasper.
We talked about pancreatitis and she said right away that an inflamed pancreas can cause the ALT to go up. I asked about the pancreatitis test and she said she didn't feel it was necessary as he is currently being treated as if he has it. I hope that makes sense. Trish I hope you are right about the in house labs showing higher. You all are so smart and I appreciate all the feedback and reassurance.
Yes, not a wonderful night last night, but so lucky it wasn't a work night, guess I would have missed work today. Although I don't like him being away overnight, I know he is where he needs to be. I DO NOT want to have to try to manage that vomiting on my own, scary. I will post more of what my vet said a bit later. Pretty wiped out right now.
Love and big hugs. I am so thankful for you all.
Tina and Jasper
That all makes sense Tina, she sounds like she is onto it. Pleased she is also discussing with IMS too. You need a wee sleep I think, hope your headaches are staying away as this stress plays havoc on you too and we need you fighting fit at the moment. Hopefully once that sodium comes back up he is going to feel better. It's a fine line with the IV fluids, covering his dehydration but not washing out too much sodium... I guess they are using a higher sodium fluid for that.
Maybe the changes with the addisons were sneaking back up making him feel funky the last couple of weeks with the going off his food recently. Honestly I think we should just cancel out September for Jasper, wasn't it this time last year it all played up as well and he got through that Tina, so paws crossed he perks up real fast with this treatment xxxxxxxxxxxx
Oh Tina, I am just now reading this and am so sorry. Will definitely be keeping you and Jasper in my thoughts and prayers.
Please do keep us posted.
Sending huge hugs and love, Lori
Yes! Regarding the dehydration - she said that overall he did not appear that dehydrated, CBC was WNL, his gums were moist. But she was surprised how low the sodium was, and felt it was a due to his Addison's so gave the Percorten injection. I am thinking maybe this was the reason for subq instead of IV fluids, so as to not wash out the sodium. She gave me so much information on everything and I was writing like a mad woman but couldn't get everything written down.
Ok, we're you conferenced in on the call with my vet?! :) That is exactly what she said, that she questioned if the instability related to the Addison's was slowly creeping up with his recent appetite issues and not feeling so well the past week or two!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trish
And yes, it was exactly a year ago that Jasper had the original Addison's crisis. Some problems over last Labor Day weekend and hospitalized. Home for a couple of days and then sh*t hit the fan on 9/5 and that was when he had the full on crisis and HGE and back in the hospital. :eek: :eek: Yes, I think we need to cancel September for him!! I am hopeful he perks up quickly this time also. I am wondering if he should have continued on Percorten even though indicators were that he didn't need it. He did well and was pretty stable the whole time he was on it. However it does affect how the kidneys function to stabilize the electrolytes. Hopefully this is not a concern related to his kidney issues.
xo
Oh my goodness Tina. I have just signed on and read thru what's been going on with Jasper. Wow..you had quite a night..I'm so sorry that Jasper has had such a bad bout of something, poor boy!
As hard as it is to have him staying at the vets, (I hate those overnights too!) it is necessary right now..they will keep him comfortable and hydrated. With all that vomiting and diarrhea he probably needs those fluids and whatever meds they're giving him.
Now that he is being taken care of I'm sure he will begin to stabilize today. Jasper will probably be so exhausted after last night that he will be sleeping soundly tonight and hopefully in the morning when she checks him out he will be getting back on track and maybe could come home tomorrow.
So, so sorry for what you're going through, those terrible nights with vomiting and everything are so scary and so long!! Try not to worry too much about the liver number...if it makes you feel better Trixie's is also very high...and at one point was up in the 2000s. I read online that they can go way higher than that...so it could even be a infection causing that number to rise. I'm sure the vet will get to the bottom of this.
Sending lots of positive thoughts to you and Jasper! Hope you'll have another update today after you hear from the vet again. Try and get a little rest if you can!!
Barbara
Haha yep I have accessed your phone lines and was listening in :eek::eek::eek: That just makes me sound like a mad scary stalker woman :D:D:Ds Truly I'm not :)
Makes sense about the subcut fluids and the sodium Tina. Good that he is not dehydrated. I think once he is stabilised that he will most likely have to stay on the Percoten. Can't have this happening again, our nerves will not be able to take it, even though tough little Jasper will just keep trucking along!!
LOL, you are totally not a mad stalker. Just trying to emphasize how smart you are Trish! You are right on, that is exactly what my vet discussed. You know, when she said she wanted to try to get him off the Percorten, in my gut I had a little fear about it. But since the dose had been decreased to less than half of what he started on, and the electrolytes all stayed WNL for a month with checks every 10 days x 3, I figured that proved he didn't need it. I am thinking he will need to stay on it now also. That's right, our nerves can't take this, and I don't think his little body can really take it either. He has been pretty tough, but I know it takes its toll. He really did look pitiful during all that vomiting, they just look so helpless when that is going on. :(
I read that you are taking your Dad out for lunch. How nice, hope you have a good time, and something yummy to eat. Getting kind of hungry myself, I guess I have forgotten to eat today with all that has gone on.
xo
Just catching up, had to run out to my mom's. I checked on my phone for updates but cant post from my phone.:o
Well, I think yup, staying on the Percoten may be the ticket along with canceling any future Septembers, no more allowed, simply cannot have that month for Jasper anymore.
Gosh, Tina, what a time you and Jasper have had and I know it is hard when they are in hospital and not home with us but I am sure he will be home soon.
Sending much love and many prayers, sweetie. I really believe this will all turn out all right but wish I could be there with you in person.
Me too Addy, be so nice for us to pop over to Tina for a visit, loads of chocolates, flowers, wine, tissues and some poppers to crack when we get the good news that Jasper is coming right, as surely we will!!
I do have to log off now Tina, but know you will be in my thoughts all day, so for now a big:
PAW UP JASPE xxxx[/COLOR]
hehe you know what I mean!! Sorry about the typo xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Aww, you are such a sweetheart Addy. Wish you could be here too. Big hugs.
Yes, he is where he needs to be. I am just not too keen on him being by himself all night. But this will allow some quality time for Shelby tonight. Poor little girl, she has not had much Mommy time in the past 24 hrs. Seems that her needs are put on a back burner lots of times due to Jasper's issues.
How's your Mom doing Addy? I know it has been a tough time lately for both of you.
Love and hugs,
Tina and Jasper xo
Thanks Trish, yes, paws up Jasper! Thanks for thinking about my boy.
Gosh, that would be so nice. You and Addy both pop over! Trish have a nice day with your family, I will catch you later tonight.
xo
Four Paws Up Jasper:):):):):)
Mom's up and down, thanks for asking. She has had medication induced delirium. We'll get her straightened out in spite of her doctors;););):rolleyes::rolleyes:
How is Shelby doing? Maybe tonight a nice long hot soak in the tub with a warm washcloth over your eyes so you don't get a migraine and then a bit of chocolate, some mindless TV like old Bob Newhart shows and then a cuddle with Shelby to put you to sleep:):)
Some of the old sitcoms really can make us laugh even when we don't want to.:)
Four Paws, 20 toenails AND a tail Up JASPER!!! :D
Now I really am going! xxxx
Oh my Tina,
It sounds like Jasper's exactly where he needs to be right now. It's the pits when our babes aren't home where they belong. We'll keep you and Shelby company this evening. You are never alone. You have all of us right by your side praying for both you and Jasper. Try to get some rest. I'll check and see if you're around and want company in a bit. Until then,
Many, many loving hugs coming your way. :)
Wishing Jasper a peaceful night's sleep...he will probably be so, so tired after what he's been through. I think he will just be sleeping and gaining his some of his strength back over night.
You must be running on empty by now Tina, hoping you and Shelby can try and relax and get some rest...you've got us all here cheering Jasper on!!
Barbara
I was going to take a nap, but you and Jasper are on my mind. So I thought I'd hang close by instead, in case you surfaced. My first week back to work was only four days, but it was crazy busy. There was barely time to catch my breath. On the upside, it flew by.:)
I know how worried you are. It wasn't long ago when I was feeling just as worried. All of you angels kept me talking and semi-sane. The entire flocks of angels floated out to stay with me throughout many days and nights. I am so sorry that you were alone with all of this last night. Now that we are aware, many of us will be checking on you much more often. It is okay to lean on us. I certainly leaned on all of you. In fact, a couple of days there I think I was actually carried!;)
Sending you tons of love and healing energy.
Hi Tina
Well busy afternoon day here, just got home and checking in!! Hopefully you are sound asleep after a lovely Shelby snuggle on the couch. I am around for a few hours yet if you wake up, which I hope you don't :) not that I don't want to see you, but rather you getting a good sleep xxxxxx :)
I'm just catching up on some posts. I'm sorry to hear Jasper isn't doing well.
I know what you mean about Jaspser being by himself overnite. They don't feel well, in a strange place and all by themselves. Hopefully he will rest and feel much better this morning.
Paws up for Jasper !!
Hi Tina
I see your little green light on, not sleeping? xx
Aww, you guys, I am a bit choked up with all of your sweet messages. Thank you, thank you, thank you for all the kind words and support, and for looking in on me. True Angels. ((((Hugs)))).
Well I am up for the middle of the night pit stop, but no Jasper! :( I guess my sleep schedule has been permanently reprogrammed!! Shelby and I did get some much needed sleep, whew, I was a bit wiped out. She is kind of clingy. Probably wonders where her brother is, but more likely doesn't know quite what to do with herself without him to terrorize! :rolleyes:
Well, no news from the vet last evening is good news I guess. She said she would be checking on him again last night, I imagine by touching bases with the vet on call last night. It sounded like she will be checking on him herself in the morning and will call me then. She wasn't going to call last night unless something had changed so I am going to take that as good news.
Thanks for all the support dear friends. I don't know what I would do without you. Love you guys! ❤❤
Big hugs,
Tina and Jasper xo
Phew, well I agree no news is good news! :) Now for a good morning report and we can all breathe a sigh of relief! So pleased you have had some sleep! - Think I will be checking on the phone tomorrow, with work getting in the way of keeping up with Jasper :rolleyes:
I know what you mean by work getting in the way of checking on things on the forum. I feel that way most days, but especially when something urgent is going on with one of our babies.
It's kind of difficult to check on my phone, it doesn't get a good signal in my office. I have been checking real quick a couple times a day from my work computer, but I should probably stop doing that. They recently "announced" that the internet usage would be more tightly monitored. :rolleyes:
Yes, looking for a good report in the morning. The more I think about it, I feel like he went into another Addison's crisis. That kind if occurred to me when all the vomiting was happening, but just as a quick thought. I really thought it was just a bad flare of colitis. I have to think it through a little better because he had been stable from the Addison's regard. We had it under control I thought. The only thing I can think of is that it is some very delayed response to stopping the Percorten, and we got in trouble with the aldosterone and his electrolytes got out of whack. Such a delicate balance.
PS no headaches so far, I am so thankful! They do seem to be stress related for the most part, and this is certainly stressful! Plus last week at work was a bugger so I was a bit wiped out from that too. But so far so good.
Thank goodness no headaches, did you ever get to the bottom of why you had them, was it a virus do you think?
I was wondering about the aldosterone too, plus if he did have a bit of a tummy upset that might have been enough to send him Addisons again too with his electrolytes getting mucked up then the Addisons just made it worse really quickly??
You know, I tend to get pretty severe headaches from time to time if I get too run down, or lots of ongoing stress. But that migraine headache that I had in July where I was throwing up, in bed all day and missed work - I feel like there was something more going on there. I can't remember ever being that sick with one. And I certainly have not needed to miss work because of one. Normally if I throw up (which is rare) it will be once , and then the nausea improves. I got a little worried when my Dr mentioned testing for West Nile, but I think that is not necessary as I don't feel so run down now like I did.
With Jasper there is so much to think about, and all things are inter related. I wonder if his sodium was slowly dropping due to not enough aldosterone, and it finally got low enough to make him sick, and then the vomiting started? Which of course then further complicates everything.
The Percorten injection that he used to get replaces aldosterone in Addison's, so without that, I wonder of it was some sort of delayed reaction, and the sodium got out of whack due to that? These are all things I will be asking my vet, and I think are part of the reason she will be consulting with the IMS again. Jasper has certainly been a challenge for her, and he historically has not followed the text books, so why would this be any different?
Oh gosh Trish, I just realized the time, after 5 am here! I should try to get a bit more sleep before I need to be up and waiting for the vet to call. And it must be starting to get late there for you as well.
Lovely chatting with you, and as always, your support and feedback is so appreciated.
Hugs, and smooches for Flynn xo
I had just let him out for his last pitstop and was following on poop patrol as we do! He ran around the house a couple of times, no doubt that pesky cat from next door called by! Flynn has decided it is his bedtime and just taken himself off, I am going to have a cup of tea and that will be me in bed as well, it is only nearly 10.30pm here so that's the weekend finished :p too fast!!
Your theory sounds very likely to me too, I just want him better asap and I am sure with the meds, fluids and some rest he will be feeling better in the morning, I will be checking on my phone Tina so you get a few more hours and see you tomorrow night, give that boy of yours an extra special hug from me and Flynny xxxx night night :)
Morning shift reporting in:D:D:D:D:D
Hoping to see some good news for Jasper, whom by the way I am sure could take 1st place at Westminster so just phooey to the snooty dog show lady. As I always joke to my Kate " Oh yeah? Well we've been thrown out of better places than this!!!!":p:p:p:p
Hope you are getting some sleep Tina as it seems you were up late;)
Good morning Tina,
Dropping in to check on you, Jasper and Shelby this beautiful Sunday morning. I hope you got little more sleep after chatting with Trish during the night. It's been triple digits here all week!:eek: September is ALWAYS the hottest month, just as I return to work.
I see no Jasper report as of yet. Hoping that his tummy had has a chance to settle during the night and he's doing much better this morning. I'll be watching for your update.
Glad to hear, no headaches. That is a blessing. Take care of you, too.
Many big hugs this morning and belly rubs for the kids.xxxxxx
Girl, you were going to bed as I was signing on! I hope you are able to rest a bit and that you have good news on our sweet boy today.
Omg, I am just getting caught up on what is going on with Jasper.
Lordy Tina, but you have been on a roller coaster. I think you are on the right track with the thinking that this is Addison related and probably related to the Percorten stoppage. It's all connected and relative, one thing leads to this and then this leads to that. So, one thing gets out of whack in a bad way and it's like a domino effect until you can catch one and stop it. Then it's work to get everything straightened back out again.
Hopefully the next news from the vet is going to be that you can start working on getting him sorted back out and on the right track again.
Sending you really big hugs Tina and a belly rub to Shelby and Jasper (hope he is coming home soon!)
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
Trish, Kathy, Addy, Leslie, Barbara, Judi, Lori, Naomi, Sharlene,
My Little Man is home! :cool: :D :) :p ;) My vet said she was a little on the fence with letting him go, but since there was no more vomiting and was eating and drinking a bit for them, she felt he would rest better at home. And she said "and since it is you, I feel comfortable letting him go". (Thank you, I'll take that as a compliment! :) )
Thank you all for checking on us again today. I wanted to post a quick update as soon as I got him home. The only thing I did first was give him a nice bath. He seemed not so "fresh" after being in the hospital and along with all that vomiting and pooping, he needed freshening up. :rolleyes:
I will post details and all my vet had to say a bit later, but basically, it looks like he had an Addison's crisis again that, in hindsight, we think was brewing for at least a week. I don't think it was quite as severe as the first one, but still pretty severe. And now we have the issue with the highly elevated ALT. She is quite concerned about that and is not messing around with treating it. Jasper is on lots of additional meds now. He seems MUCH better, but still a little mopey, which I would expect. He is snoozing on the couch right now. The fact that he is even able to rest is such an improvement!! What a trooper my boy is. I love him so much.
I am going to try to get him to eat a little something now. I wanted to get an update in for all you wonderful Angels so no one would be worrying. I will be back on later with details and our plan.
I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone again, Administrators on down, for allowing us to stay in this wonderful forum even though Jasper technically has Addison's. I would be lost without you all. All the love, prayers and positive thoughts have carried us through once again. 💜
Love and big hugs,
Tina and my resilient boy Jasper xo
Oh my gosh, what a relief!! My alarm went off and I rushed out of bed to see if there was any news... I don't usually get out of bed that fast especially on a week day, but Jasper is a special case!!! :D:D
So pleased he is home Tina, of course your vet was right letting him out into your tender loving care, no one else is going to take such good care of Jasper!!
I bet he is mopey, what a horrid time he has had of late. Hope you can tempt him with some food and he is good to keep it down and then can relax and catch up on his sleep.
OK YAY Monday is starting off good for me with this news, awesome!! Good Boy Jasper!! xxxxx