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Okay, I am here with the Starbucks. I know it is a little early but I did not want to miss anything and I needed to claim the window seat.
Wake me back up when we are ready to leave:D:D
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it will all be over in a blink of an eye and she will home in your arms.
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Thanks guys.
We're just getting some morning cuddle time in before we have to load up the car. My poor girl is wondering why I haven't given her her "treats" (Denamarin and Cosequin) or her breakfast. And now she's all curled up next to me dozing off. Little does she know she's about to go back to the vet, where I'm going to leave her alone. She hasn't been away from me at a vet or groomer for over a year. She's always been nervous and attached to her "mommy" so I hope she'll do okay. The vet is really sweet and wonderful so that sure makes me feel better.
I have a list of what I want to remind them of:
-her back issues (don't want to start something up again with her struggling during an x-ray, etc.)
-she needs to wear the e-collar when she's fully alert so she doesn't chew her legs
-to check to see if she can drink water with the e-collar (think I'll bring the dish we use at home)
I'm going to bring one of my t-shirts to keep with her so she can smell her mommy. And hopefully they'll give me some idea of when this procedure might take place. They are "squeezing her in" to the schedule today so I hope it doesn't mean she'll sit there until 1:00 waiting. That would drive me crazy.
Addy, I'm just about to come wake you up...I just need to take a few deep breaths so I can actually make it to the car. ;)
Julie & Hannah
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Julie, I haven't posted much to you, but have been following along with your sweet Hannah. I hope she had a wonderful birthday!! (After the vet visit, of course).
I will be thinking about you guys, along with the others that have vet appts today. I hope everything goes well today for your sweet girl. Hang in there, I so understand the anxiety about leaving her there all day. That's great that you are leaving one of your t-shirts with her, I always leave something like that with Jasper for these situations also. I will be checking for an update later.
Hugs,
Tina and Jasper
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Hi Julie,
Hoping all goes well today and that our sweet girl is back home soon!
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang
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I am here with you both as well
Xxxx
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So here's the update so far:
It's a tooth under her gum (her canine) that never came out of her gum when she was a puppy. She will take it out, along with the cyst. So NO CANCER!:D Her chest was totally clear. Phew.
Bad news:
1. It will be in the $2,000 range.
2. She called again to tell me there are other fractured teeth with roots exposed on her right side (which hurt). She would like to take them out too, and said it shouldn't add too much to the cost-maybe $100-$200. This is only on the right side of her mouth...she hadn't looked at the left side yet. :eek:
She said she would see how Hannah is doing under anesthesia and will take what she can. They are all in the same area, which is helpful, I guess. I'm crossing my fingers and saying lots of prayers that she will tolerate the surgery and anesthesia and will come home in one piece. I'm also hopeful there aren't tons of problems on the left side. She only has about 10 teeth in her mouth as it is!
She will call me when Hannah is awake.
Julie & Hannah
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That is great news re the tooth not so great re the cost but the more they can do now the less likely she is to have problems in the future
Hopefully she will call soon to say she is all done
First good news of the day, hoping that sets the tone for everyone else
Mel
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Wow- and I was thinkiing this morning while I was waiting in the car for you ;) too bad she couldnt have a dental while she was there:) Ouch to the pocket book but Hannah is going to feel so much better I bet.
It will be fine, sweetie, I just can feel it in my bones. I know how hard it is to give up control.
Good thinking about reminding them about her back.
Let us know when she wakes up. You know the plan, wake up, walk, pee come home:):):):):)
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Update #2:
Vet called and she is out of surgery and breathing on her own, and is in anesthesia recovery. She said they took a total of 5 teeth. :eek: The left side looks good though, so she doesn't anticipate any more surgery needed any time soon.
I LOVE this vet. She made every phone call along the way, always started by telling me Hannah was okay, and talked me through everything in such a caring, thoughtful way. It's like she provided therapy along the way. She said Hannah did beautifully under anesthesia, with absolutely no concerns . She made me cry this last time because she told me that I absolutely did the right thing and that even though Hannah has a lot of stitches, she'll be feeling SO much better and she said she sure hopes she's lucky enough to be like Hannah when she's 80 to have someone take care of her the same way.
I'm going to pick her up at 3:00. I'm just saying a few more prayers that she won't have injured her back. Then we'll move into phase 2: tonight, with pain management, eating/drinking, monitoring her, etc. So please stick with us just a little bit longer...:)
Julie & Hannah
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Woo hoo go Hannah - glad she is awake and ok
Awesome that your vet did that
Xxx
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we arent going anywhere, girlfriend:)
what a wonderful vet, Julie, I LOVE her too:D:D
wake up, walk, pee, come home soon Hannah
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Great news and great vet!
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So far, so good!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)
Thanks so much for this update, Julie.
Marianne
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Hope she is home soon, Julie!
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ok it is 4:40 my time, guess I will check when I get home:):)
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We are home! She is doing pretty well, but a little weird, of course. I think she's hungry. I'm softening some food for her now. I finally got her to lie down, but if I move she's up. I have to give Buprenorphine every 8-12 hours. I sure hope that goes okay. I know she could be sedated or act a little wacky, but they told me that's more common in cats. I've been told by several vets that it's very safe and they use it all the time. I sure hope so.
I'm going to give a little food soon and then try the med around 7:00, I think. Thanks again for sticking with us!
Julie & Hannah
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Glad you are both home safe and sound
Xxxx
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Hey Julie! Awesome vet! I want her too! Sounds like Hannah did wonderful throughout the whole thing too. Now if her back is okay and she heals up fine, things should be dandy for awhile. :) Crossing fingers for that.
Not going anywhere :)
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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YAY! Our girl is back home where she belongs in Mom's loving arms!
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Thank goodness, now she just needs some holding and a bit of food and a pain pill and a good night sleep.
Dont let her gulp a bunch of water. They told me Zoe should have a few sips and then take it away and offer again in 10 minutes. If they gulp water they can vomit. They get so happy they are home, the surgeon said they can gulp too much water.
Dear Hannah, I am so glad you are back home with mommy. feel better soon.
Love, Auntie Addy
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So glad to hear that Hannah is home and is in your loving arms. Hoping and praying for an uneventful recovery and sending huge and loving hugs.
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Good night, Julie, Hannah and Izzy, we'll check in tomorrow and I hope you all have a good night.
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Hoooooray!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a tooth, just a tooth...YAY YAY YAY!!! let this be a good lesson to us all not to jump to the worst case scenario (am telling this especially to myself, as I am one of the worst offenders :eek::eek:) I am so pleased to read this Julie!! I missed all the action, left my stupid phone at home today... made for quite a peaceful day though :D:D I wonder if the bad teeth have been causing some of her other problelms?? Be great if her tummy and itch settled down too :D
Such a relief, I am so pleased for you both and hope she enjoyed a little soft snack and has a sound sleep to get over the anaesthetic. Are they dissolvable stitches?? Hope she did good with the pain pill too :D:D I am smiling at this post, WE LOVE GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!
Loads of hugs for you lot tonight xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Guys,
I'm feeling worried, as Hannah doesn't want to eat. She ate a little right away when we got home night, about 5. Probably 1/6 c. of wet down food, and had a couple small drinks. I tried again with a little more food about 7:00, before giving the Buprenorphine, and she took a teeny tiny bit off my finger and recoiled like I'd hurt her. She then literally ran away from the food dish. I assumed it could be pain, and gave the pain med. At 2:00 a m., I heard her tummy, so I got up and got more food. She ran away again. From the canned food, softened dry food, didn't matter. I don't even know how she'll get any meds besides the pain med if she won't eat. I tried the Denamarin, which she loves, and crushed it up in her dish. She sniffed it like she was super interested, then ran away. The only thing she wanted was a tiny piece of smoked cheddar, but with the recent I'D diet, I don't want to feed her cheese. I called the vet because this clinic is linked to the ER vet and they said someone will call in the morning. They thought it could still take a little time, or her pain is not being controlled. Ugh. I'm super worried because this is very different from previous dentals. I know she's older, but still.
Julie & Hannah
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Bless her maybe she bit down on the food on the sore place in her mouth and that's why she is reluctant now
Could you try something gloopy like porridge so that no chewing is required?
Hope the vets get in touch soon. Big hug from me x
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Hi Julie
I had that drug for Flynn, I had to squirt it in his mouth. I remember the vet saying it was not quite as important as the non steroidals to give it as food. Temgesic is the other name for it. I bet she is sore and probably like Mel said went to eat, it hurt so she stopped. You could also try the real slushy rice boiled to heck so it goes all gloopy and a bit of minced up chicken in it? Kinda like what we recommend to dogs with upset tummy, don't want anything hard getting stuck in her gums or hurting her. Is it bleeding at all? Make sure she is pretty alert if you have to put it in her mouth, don't want her choking.
I think keep getting the pain relief into her (how often can she have it, as I would go for max dose) and not worry too much about food tonight, then if no better in morning ring her lovely dentist vet. She could be up and unsettled post anaesthetic too, then probably feels hungry, then eats and yeooooooooooooowy! Poor wee girl.
xxxx aww poor Hannah xxxx
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When Zoe came home the surgeon said I should not be suprised if she did not want to eat, they are coming out of anesthesia and have pain. It is not unusual. So dont panic, give her some time. Hopefully she will feel a bit better this morning.
checking in on you. I hope you both got some sleep.
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How are you both doing? Are you and Hannah feeling a bit better now?
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Jenny had 9 teeth pulled at her dental and her vet warned me between that and the anesthesia that she might now want to eat for a day or so. deep breathe
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Thanks for the info. and advice everyone! It means so much.
Hannah has eaten a little this morning. I've discovered that she wants nothing to do with her canned ID food. She will eat the dry ID after I soften it into big puff balls. She also isn't too interested in eating out of a dish, but will eat off the floor, a plate, or a saucer. I'm not sure what that's about. I had Matt buy some hamburger at the store and I'm going to boil that and try it with some rice later on. I'll need some way to get her other meds in her because I usually put the pills in the canned food and squirt the Atopica on the canned food and she gulps it up. I didn't give any meds yesterday or today besides the pain med. I don't think I'll give the Atopica today either. I just don't want to upset her tummy. She did get a drink a little while ago and she is still going potty, so I'm feeling better.
The vet is still beyond wonderful and has emailed me twice, once about my concern of giving Hydroxyzine with the Buprenorphine (saying it would be fine), and once about my concerns about not eating. She said we should not worry yet, and that she had major oral surgery and is still recovering. She said there is likely still some pain, even with the meds, and may just need a little more time. She said she'd call me today or tomorrow to check on us. She is so down to earth, and very kind, and still walks me through it like a therapist. :) Even her write up of the procedure is great. She wrote, "We discovered an unerupted canine tooth in the radiograph and realized it was a dentigerous cyst. Woo hoo! We all did the happy dance!" She is just amazing.
I'm feeling a little better, but still worried about my girl. It doesn't help that she is on a narcotic either, of course, but I hope it's giving her some relief. I just hope things get a little better each day, and that I can start getting some other meds in her soon. I also hope the eating stuff will resolve. At least I got something in her for now though.
Julie & Hannah
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Hi Julie,
That vet is just wonderful!!! I wish she was near here. I'd use her in a heartbeat too!
Poor little Hannah, I'm sure her tummy says she is hungry and then her mouth says Ouch! :(
Maybe the hamburger will work in small little portions. Too much could upset her tummy too and don't want her to vomit. I hope she feels better soon.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin
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I wonder if Hannah would eat baby food? Sending healing and loving hugs, Lori
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Some good news:
Hannah ate a little canned food off my finger (with vigor), and took a hydroxyzine in canned food. We went for a very short walk (a couple of houses) and she was eager to go and trotted. She went potty by the fire hydrant and begged for a little treat when we got home (a tiny dab of canned food). She also got another drink. I'm feeling much better.
The vet (herself!) called this afternoon to check on her. She reminded me that she probably won't poop for a couple of days, and that the side effect of the med can be constipation. That can be a problem for Hannah too, but hopefully with all the wet food it will be better.
She said there was a root tip right in the front of Hannah's mouth, so that could be why she was so hesitant to eat earlier. She also said that she should continue to improve, but there may be more setbacks, like when she gets some food right in one of the sore spots. She is so good! I told her I've been bragging about her to everyone, and that I'd recommend anyone with doggy dental issues to go see her. :D She was thrilled. She said she'd be checking on us again soon.
My mom volunteered to come over to watch my girls for a couple of hours so Matt and I can go run a few errands and grab a quick dinner. (I knew he would not be happy if I said we had to be confined to the house the whole weekend). I'm lucky my mom is so close and so helpful! She loves my little Hannah too, since I still lived there when she was adopted.
Anyway, keep your fingers crossed that the improvement continues! We are supposed to get freezing rain, rain, and snow the next 48 hours, so that stinks big time! Hannah already has trouble and now she'll be drugged and trying to deal with it. I sure hope it's not too bad.
Julie & Hannah
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hi julie !!! you may want to try giving your baby hannah some canned pumpkin,this helps keep the colon moving.i have been given it to my dogs for over 20 years when they have troubles.sending healing thoughts...patty(milo)meka xoxox
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Hi Julie,
What great news about Hannah and your continued wondrous vet. :) I'm soooo jealous!!! LOL Actually I am very glad that Hannah and you had a great vet to do this kind of surgery. It's really reassuring to know that there are some pretty awesome vets out there and we just have to find them. She's pretty inspiring.
That is so good that Hannah is eating a bit and acting happy too. Love that mom of yours! Babysitting her grandpups is very cool thing. :)
Gosh I hope you don't get freezing rain. :( I'd much rather have snow than that icy stuff any time.
Enjoy your quality time with Matt. That will be a nice stress relief for you both you to have a tiny break.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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aweee that is sweet of your mom for watching after your little one. and helps ease your mind i bet tons!!!!! i can just see her being all excited and trotting off with you and going potty by hydrant, eyes probably just dancing like MOM MOM MOM did you see what i just did!!!!!
hopefully she heals up just really really fast and food is nom nom nom yum yum good. :)
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I think we all want Hannah's vet!!! She sounds super wonderful! I was wondering if you would be allowed to put any of that anaesthetic gel on her gums to help with pain, maybe something you could ask next time she calls. Glad she is eating a bit, they must wonder what the heck hits them eh... off she goes to sleep and wakes up with a mouthful of pain! But it is going to be sooo worth it in the long run!
I love that visual of the fire hydrant, we do not have them in my country and I remember growing up seeing American movies of dogs peeing by them or else the water spraying out and and kids playing in it on hot hot days... it just seems so ummm American I guess :D:D I just know Flynn would love a fire hydrant to pee on!
Hope you had a nice relaxing evening out, you deserve it Super Mom!
Trish xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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LOL at Trish saying Flynnie would love a fire hydrant to pee on:D
Hope you had a nice break with dinner and Hannah is feeling a bit better this morning. You are very lucky to have a great babysitter of a mom:):):):)
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My molly loves a fire hydrant too. I'm not sure that she remembers she is a girl sometimes, because that dog cannot pass a good hydrant by. :) So, what is Hannah's position on hydrants, pee worthy or pass by?
I hope she is still doing good and her gums continue to heal nicely.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin
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How are you girls this morning? I hope Hannah's appetite is coming back and she is feeling a bit less pain today.
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang