My Pug Scoop (Precious Scoop has passed... )

maybe try........use the kibble (crunchy food) that you were hoping to use. put it in a blender. it will ground it up almost to powder. Then add water. you can even heat it a bit and make it taste better. sometimes it is hard on their tummies to try and break down the kibble and that is why they may not want it. but if you take the kibble and turn it into soft food normally they gobble it right up. and you can make it as soft as you want. and you never know it may also hurt his gums or a tooth to crunch on it. but the blender....love the blender...lol.......it goes to really really fine mix.

i home cook meals for shysie and she has to be a on VERY low fat diet. and then i add her supplements in according to what the nutritonist says. You can reach her online i think as well as clinic if you want her name.

Thanks for the tips. That is different with the blender for the dry food. Will definitely keep that in mind.

As far as the nutritionist goes, I'll have to see how things go along here first before I do that but thank you so much. I appreciate the offer.

Vicki:
You can just google Sean Delaney and you will see where to email him on his website. I cannot say enough good things about him. Tipper and I pray and ask God to please help Scoop. I know how scary the tumor thing is. Sometimes I get scared because Tipper exhibits some of those macro signs. I would have to have and MRI done to know for sure, and since you can't do anything to remove it, except extreme brain surgery there is not really any sense in me knowing.I think being given a time frame that your dog would live to would really freak me out. I know the Vetoryl is supposed to make it grow faster, but my Tipper could not do without the Vetoryl. Her symptoms were so bad. So I go on in hopes that God will spare her since I need her so much. I never give up hope, or trying to find something or someone else that will help her. I have never cried nor prayed so much before this. I pray for all these poor babies to be healed. This is such a heartbreaking disease. I know Sean has no supplements for Cushings, but more than likely has one for diabetes. He told me Tipper needs to be on a very low density diet. I emailed him one weekend and he answered me on a Sunday!! He is really up on everything about nutrition. I hope Scoop has a better day today. What about if you would cook beans or lentils and put them in the food processor or blender, and they would make a low fat gravy that would not be bad for him?? I know what it is like to struggle with this. God Bless you Both, and we hope to hear Scoop is on the mend soon.

Hi Vickie,

At this point, I'm not sure that a major diet change is the way to go with Scoop. It may not stimulate his appetite and may cause other issues, like digestive problems, that he doesn't need added to the mix. A friend used the UC-Davis diet and vitamin supplement suggested here and her pup did not do well at all with the supplement. You might try some simple things like Parmesan cheese sprinkled on his food to stink it up a bit, or some water from sardines or tuna fish. Green Tripe is stinky and good for them; you can get this canned, too, and give him a spoonful or two in his food. Cod is a stinky fish, as is Salmon, so you could cook some of these up and mix in his food, too. Try some simple things, go slow so he adjusts to the changes, and see if he will eat a bit better using these tricks.

Sending many hugs and belly rubs,
Leslie and the gang

Vicki;
I just thought of something else you could think about doing with Scoop. I also have a rescued cat that is sick at times. He refuses to eat and will lose tons of weight. I get baby food and suck it up in a syringe and feed him. That way at least he keeps his strength up. Sometimes just getting the food in his mouth stimulates him to eat. It could be worth a try, and would be easily digestable. That way at least you know he is getting some protein for fuel. Hope you hit on something that works. God Bless
Patti

Praying for you and your baby, honey.
Hugs,
Moo

I've heard of other people using baby food too. Just watch the ingredients for sugar.

I think at this point if he would eat anything it would be good. hugs, Judi

Thank you everyone for all your prayers for Scoop. So appreciated.
I also appreciate all the suggestions and input. It's helpful to hear them all.
He did pretty good today with his eating only thing is, his poops were mush today and he has had such bad gas. He's had digestive issues lately but I guess the different foods are making it worse. I was worried about his BG level since I'm afarid he didn't get as many calories as he had been so I took him to the vet's this morning just before lunch time. His BG was 200. He's been a lot higher than that lately but 200 is a good reading. He was stinking up the place with gas while we were there and when we got home boy did he leave a pile. All day and even now all I hear is him passing gas and his insides gurgling.
He refuses to eat the Hill's food at all. I bought some Blue Buffalo canned food. Some of their stews cause I figured since he would eat Raleigh's Alpo and it has gravy, I would try something with gravy. Well he loved it for now. I also got some Fresh Pet beef, rice, veggies in a roll. He liked that too. My daughter offered him some chicken breast at lunch and he ate it. Yesterday he didn't want it at all. Yesterday he wouldn't eat a dental treat and today he did. I guess it's going to be off and on with different things on different days.
A few weeks ago the vet suggested baby food to mix in with the Hill's food. That worked for a while. I give some of his meds with baby food. Friday was a really bad day. Saturday was better but the digestive issues were bad.

I briefly talked to the vet this morning when he had his BG checked. She said his vomiting could be caused by the tumor. It's just strange because it always happens after his supper and not earlier in the day. I called the vet office to have them tell her about his bowels but she'll probably just say it's the food change which some of it probably is but they started getting soft when he was put on the g/d food.

Last week when Scoop was weighed he was 18.2lbs. Today he was 19lbs. Now how could that be? Seems strange. The vet wants to do a BG curve next week. She wants him to stay the day there. He'll be locked up in a cage for at least 8 hours. I hate that. Like my husband said, they better take good care of him.

I was so scared on Friday by the way Scoop acted. I thought oh no, this is it. I was crying my head off and I blurted out to my husband that I am going to talk to someone about radiation. We talked briefly about it but not too much. Today we went to lunch and I told him all kinds of things that I had read and about Jessica's Doc having it done at U. of Florida. I kept rattling on about different places that could do it. He told me he would go with me to the consult visit. I have to decide who to call and hopefully it won't be too long till we can get an appointment. I wish I could take him to the U. of Florida where Doc went. It would only be 5 treatments or less there. They have a different kind of machine. Around here it will most likely be 20 treatments. Have to get in to talk to someone. Maybe they won't even want to do it with all of Scoop's problms. I'm leaning towards the U. of Penn. Has anyone heard anything about them as far as radiation goes?

Hi Vicki, I hope scoop feels better, it's so hard when you don't know what to feed them. I asked someone once who worked at a pet food store what was good food, well she said normally dogs do well with beef first, then chicken for older, and then turkey when they have sensitive tummies. That has been the way Simba has been, kinda weird, but makes sense too I guess. Simba was on hills diet for awhile but that gave him runny poo, it's sometimes a guessing game, always on poo patrol too.....sending hugs and prayers

Hi Letti, Thank you. It is hard with Scoop's diabetes and the IMS thinks he might have Irritable Bowel Disease. I worry about him losing weight because at one point he was down to 16.2lbs. Mel suggested slow cooking turkey breast so from what you were told that would be better for the tummy.
Hugs to you and Simba.

Leslie, you are so right about too many changes. I just wanted to make sure he would eat. I like the fish ideas. Maybe I could try putting his g/d food in a blender instead of giving him cut up pieces and adding some fish.

Patti, I pray that what you see in Tipper is not any signs of a macro. It is the pits knowing about it and just waiting. I was curious to look at Sean Delaney's website but when I google him several others with that name come up and I don't know which one. I never had lentils. Is that something that would cause gas?

I like all the tips everyone is offering and I appreciate all the help.

Thank you.

Vicki,

Daisy Mae was said to have IBD but when our newest vet gave her Baytril for a bacterial skin infection. the loose stools, accidents in the house, and gas all sudsided and she needs to go less often! Dr. Kimm said that Baytril would have no affect on IBD and he thinks that she had an underlying infection _ possibly from the incident with bad Blue Buffalo Wellness
dry food.

Please ask your vet about that possibility. Poor Daisy had chronic diahhrea for almost 3 years! Other vets assumed IBD and none of the prescription foods had any affect. Since taking the Baytril, she hasn't had any issues and is back on Royal Canon Dachshund dry food with no problems.

Vicki:
No lentils do not cause gas, at least in Tipper they did not. They are in the dried bean section. They are very mild, and I guess that is why no gas. You can give him Beano if you want to give him other things that do cause gas. The Vet told me Beano is ok for dogs. I am pretty certain Tipper lost weight, and these lentils seem to stick with her more. It seems she is more satisfied than the other way I was feeding her. I know they have lots of fiber and fill you up. I hope Scoop is doing better today. Prayers to you both. I will get Seans website and email it.
Patti

Vicki:
You can reach Sean Delaney at the website www.balanceit.com this is the website for the product he developed. Just send the email to his attention. You can look on there to see videos you can look at as he has made many. Look up top in the selection for videos. Good Luck, hope you and Scoop have a good day.
Patti

Patti-Scoop's vet just last week told me about that website but I haven't checked it out closely yet.

Valerie-Thanks for the tip about the Baytril. The only thing is most times when I tell the vet about things I read on here the she says, don't forget they aren't vets. Drives me crazy. At least give it some consideration. I have tried telling her these are people who have experienced these things.

Scoop has had diarrhea from Saturday morning and it hasn't let up.
Guess I'll be calling the vet's office today.

Vicki:
Poor Scoop, he has been really having a tough time of it lately. You can fill out a profile on the website Sean has and it will tell you what Scoop should be eating. The videos are interesting also. We need to get poor Scoop on the mend some how. Let me know what you think of Seans method. Prayers to you both.
Patti

so sorry to see that our buddy isn't feeling well....sending healing energy your way vicki !!! patty(milo)meka xoxox

you and Scoop have really been through it. Flagyl helps Bill's Otis and helped Jim's Spirit. Can't hurt to ask

Thank you:
Patti
Patty
Judi

Vicki, I am so sorry it is so hard for you and Scoop. Zoe was diagnosed with IBD through endescopy. She takes a daily dose of Flagyl aka metronidazole and I have to be super careful with foods for her. Sometimes just one piece of kibble would set her off.

((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))

Addy-Thanks. I talked to the vet this morning. She put Scoop on Flagyl for 5 days. We'll see if it helps. Hopefully!
Hugs

Hi Vicki,

Hope Scoop does well on the Flagyl and it helps him out. Poor little guy sure is having a rough time of it.

Sharlene and Molly Muffin

aweeee
hope his meds bring him releif.
I thought flagyl was like pepcid? and the other metronidozole (sorry spelling is off) is an antibiotic like medicine that helps stop angry potty.
regardless i hope that all of this brings relief.
hope to hear of great results soon!

Vicki, I agree! Especially since we know our furbabies better than they do.

Flagyl and Metronidazole are the same thing, just the trade name and the generic name... well they are here in NZ!

Vicki, I hope Scoop gets some relief with this medication you both deserve to get a bit of a relief and a chance to recharge the batteries. Thoughts are with you both xxxx

Hi Vicki,

I was just thinking about you and Scoop, and hoping he is doing better,now that he is starting new meds. Bless his heart.
hugs to you both,
Moo

Thank you everyone for your kind wishes for Scoop.

On the bottle of pills it says Flagyl (Metronidazole) so they are the same.

After lunch today he had it pretty bad and there were streaks of blood in it. The vet said it might be from him being sore. Hope that's all it is.

Scoop seems off today. He did not want any chicken for lunch. Some days he eats it, some he doesn't. Now he's been refusing his dental chews. He won't eat carrots or green beans at all.

If all goes well till Friday, we have an appointment at the U. of Penn to talk with the radiation oncologist. I'm scared but I see Scoop slipping away and it's so heartbreaking.

poor baby....you never know with all the meds he may be taking can be causing his tummy uneasiness... very scary vicki and as you know we are all sending healing energy,thoughts and prayers your way sweetie... so damn hard to watch our babies suffer.deep breaths...patty(milo)meka xoxox

Vicki, you are in Moo's and my prayers. As Patty says the meds can cause stomach problems. I haven't been on much as I am still looking for full-time work, and just went after another possibility. I plan on writing a bit more on my log on Lulu, just been swamped for time, and a Facebook project my hometown has got me doing for their 175th birthday. :)

Thinking of you both today

Mel
Xxxxx

Vicki:
Hope Scoop is on the mend. How is he doing on the new meds? Hope they are helping him. You have to admit he is a real trooper, putting up with all this stuff. God Bless You Both. Did you email Sean? Just curious.
Patti

Thank you so much everyone. I hope everybody had a good day.

Patti, no I didn't email Sean. We have an appointment Friday to talk about radiation for Scoop. I want to see what they have to say then I'll see about a diet.

Scoop had a BG curve today. The numbers were not good. I think the vet is going to talk to the IMS. She thinks he might be insulin resistant.

Scoop still has the diarrhea. The vet said if he still has it tomorrow she wants a sample. She said something about antibiotics.

Big hugs

Oh my gosh, not another problem for Scoop. So the vet is going to talk to the IMS? What did the curve show?

It could be a stomach bacterial thing that is causing the diarrhea. Molly was diagnosed with that and they put her on antibiotics that lasted almost a month.
I probably wouldn't do the diet change either until you get things cleared up.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Sharlene, that is what the vet said about, possible stomach bacteria.

It sounded like she is going to talk to the IMS.

I don't have the curve numbers. I will ask for copy when I ask for ACTH results copy. He had that done too. The first BG was decent, low 200's but just kept going up. I think high 400's was the last one. Scoop's diet is all screwed up because he won't eat like he should. I have to get him to eat.

poor Scoop. I hope these folks help you get him feeling better

Mornin' sweetie,

What foods have you tried with Scoop? There has got to be something that will appeal to him that won't be bad for him....I keep telling myself this over and over. So if you can share what all you have tried, maybe we can help you come up with some new ideas for him. Did you try the stinky stuff? Can he have that stinky stuff?

Has the vet mentioned whether or not the tumor could be shutting off his appetite or causing him to be nauseous? I can't help but wonder about that, too. :( Maybe an appetite stimulant or nausea med like Cerenia?

Hang in there!
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

Vicki:
My heart goes out to you. You and poor Scoop are certainly having a rough time. Would Scoop eat any of the following: canned chicken- it is smelly and may attract him to it, tuna, any type of canned beef, these canned meats are usually stronger in smell, cooked or canned salmon, egg whites cooked? How about if you made him some home made gravy since it doesn't have all the fat and additives of canned? I know my Vet has something in a can ID or something that can be sucked up in a syringe and fed to them. It is to give then high calorie food since they won't eat. Have you tried giving some food in a syringe? Sometimes they feel so bad they won't eat until some is put in their mouth and it stimulates them to eat. Tipper and I are praying daily for Scoop. This has been a never ending roller coaster for you two. I hope it gets turned around soon, as Scoop has had enough lately, and is probably worn out from all this. Sometimes you wonder what your poor baby is thinking with all this happening. God Bless You Both.
Patti