Flynn 11 y/o Foxie Cross - Right adrenalectomy- Good Bye Flynny We will miss you

who knew one day we would be making poop spreadsheets for our dogs. :p

We have poop spreadhseets?!!!

ROFL
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

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last time I saw that behaviour is when he had the swab problem

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Squeaky, dont even go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nighty night!!!!

Nice to get up to your funny posts :D:D:D Truly, I wasn't kidding about the spreadsheet, see quote below for my instructions!

"Would it be too much trouble to ask you to spread sheet his diet/food type and time fed and what his faeces Grade is like ( Grade 1 = Watery; Grade 2 = soft cow pat; Grade 3 = some form but sloppy around; Grade 4 = Normal; Grade 5 = Hard) so I can look for a pattern. Certainly sounds dietary if you find that he is fine on the GI diet and that his appetite is good"

So Flynn are I will be off to the pet store today to buy him some Bambi and Thumper to eat.... ugh :eek:, hope he likes it :):)

Have a good day everyone, thoughts still with the sick dogs and hope they are feeling better today
xx

Hi Trish,
Just wondering how the poop spreadsheet is going? Lol. You know, I have been recording Jasper's poops since he had that horrible hemorrhagic gastroenteritis in September. I have just been writing it in a journal, but a spreadsheet is a good idea. I guess it serves the same purpose, but I certainly have not been using the sophisticated grading system that you mention, my vet did not provide me with that! :D :D

How is the little guy doing, and were you able to find what you were looking for at the pet store? I am not sure I have heard of venison or rabbit mince. Is it intended to help settle his tummy and firm up his poops?

Keep me posted on the results of his urine protein:creatinine ratio, I am hoping it shows better results than Jasper's did. Jasper's chem panel is back and the BUN and creatinine are in the normal range! There are still concerns, but I am VERY relieved about these results. I will be posting the latest on his thread in a bit.

I hope Flynn is doing well.

Hugs from me and Jasper :)

Hi from me too!!!!! Our Monday is fast approaching, hope you made it through yours!!!

Hi from me!! Looks like everyone is gearing up for a busy week with our furbabies and vet visits.
Man, it's hard to want to jump back into the week.

Did you and Flynn have a good weekend???

huggers,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hi everyone

After a few emails back and forth, increasingly frustrated on my part I finally just got off the phone to our vet and a hour long conversation.

I feel better now we have a plan :) Gawd it always sucks when you are in that limbo state doesn't it.

Diet/bowel issues: stay on the venison and gastro biscuits, he is having formed motions on this mix and he gets the green tripe twice a week. Excel spreadsheet continuing! He said to add probiotic and fish oil.

BP: he is happy with the 160 range, he said it would be lower at home. Does not think he needs treatment for that. He is going to check it with IMS though.

Proteinuria: still 3+ on dipstick.
UPCR results:
Jan 2012 1.21
Nov 2012 1.48
Saturday 1.50
He said no need for treatment unless over 2.0. But also check it out with IMS. No need for kidney diet at this stage.

Arthritis: has been off Previcox nearly a week, I have noticed him kind of lifting his back leg up on his walks and not so keen to jump on couch. But not limping. I was also thinking the Previcox was affecting his bowel. But because I stopped all his other meds (moblise supplement and losec) at same time it is hard to tell. He wants him to stay off the Previcox another week so we can see if BMs stay ok and then restart it, then we will know if the Previcox is culprit of loose BMs. He is not in real bad pain at moment so I will do that. Naomi, I had mentioned the Cartrophen in an email and he had researched it, he said it is not to be given with haemorrhagic tumours or clotting problems so not contraindicated in Flynn's case, so that is an option too. He said he see's marked improvement in approx 70% of dogs that he uses it with and he finds it very safe and he said he would have a dog in the practice each day for an injection so they use it a lot. I am kind of leaning towards that instead of previcox but he did not think Previcox was contraindicated for Flynn even with the protein and elevated LTS's.

High LFT's: we need to do another test, now he is more recovered from surgery. He said LFTs could have been more elevated during the postop period and he wants to compare them with last year when they had shown decline. Then we can decide on liver support. We know he has two benign nodules in his liver, they have been biopsied three times now, so he was thinking that these could be causing the elevation and liver support may not be needed as Bilirubin was normal which is showing no blockages or anything bad like that. But again he will include that in questions to IMS.

Panting/Tremours: he thought they were much improved. Especially noted less shaking when he did his BP. Reassured me he had xray/CT in prep for surgery and no heart enlargement was found. ECG monitoring during/after surgery also OK. So no reason to suspect heart trouble at this stage. Also, it has been very hot, plus recovering from surgery. So be patient. Yeah right!

Lip smacking: Comes and goes, he is off Losec but I can give it if I need too.

I think that is about it, he is going to get back to me after discussion with IMS. I stressed that I need to have a confirmed plan of how we will proceed, how often we need to monitor everything to make sure nothing gets missed and how I need to be involved and communicated with. Probably recheck bloods in couple of weeks. It was all very civil and I feel much happier now.

Another novel from me! Sorry xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ps Sharlene, weekend was good thanks, pretty quiet, nothing like the shenanigans you were up to at 4am!!!! GO YOU!! :D:D

Hey Trish, sounds like things are starting to come under control finally. Always great to have a plan in place, strangely reassuring isn't it? Good news re the cartrophen, at least it gives you the option if you don't want to go with the Previcox, especially if that ends up being the cause of the rear end slops.

I also know what you mean about the panting! Fraser has been panting, and his water intake has increased. I have to keep reminding myself that is is damn hot outside and that increase in water intake is not only normal, but healthy. :rolleyes: I'm about to start looking for a cool mat for him, no air con during the day as of next week as I am back at work, so alternatives must be found.

anyway, take care and let us know how things progress, but as you have now seen, it pays to be squeaky! :D:D:D

That sounds like a productive run of emails, Squeaky!!! If you do the fish oil, it can cause a bit of loose stools sometimes. Our IMS has mentioned it to me for Zoe but I am too worried it will set her into an IBD flare.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

You are like me, I always feel better when I have a plan. I hate not having a plan:(:(:(:(:(

Dang, Zoe is at the dog puzzle, shoot, I have to run, that girl has no idea what is all wrong with her:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: If she had hair, people would think she was a normal dog:D:D

Nothing like a plan to make one feel like screaming to the world "top of the morning" to everyone in sight! hahahaha

pffttt... I bet you could get up to some sheenanigans if you felt like it! LOL

I think our Flynny is in good hands. His momma can whip any old vet into tip top shape!

huggers,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Hi Trish, yep, up to let the little man out so thought I would check the forum real quick. Worked a bit late so didn't have the energy to post when I got home, then snoozed on the couch. :rolleyes:

I think all of the updates for Flynn sound great! Especially the UPCR results. So glad to see that was essentially the same as in November. I believe my vet said that they look at treatment when it is over 2 also, that's why we just watched it for Jasper after his October result. Of course now it is pretty high for him. :(

Jasper was on fish oil supplement that I mixed with his food for the longest time and tolerated it well. He was getting it then because his triglycerides were running high. We stopped it after he got toxic on the Lysodren because he had a bit of a colitis flare around that time, and things kind of went downhill from there so we never restarted it. It is part of the treatment plan for the kidney issues though, so I imagine we will be restarting it at some point.

As far as the turning 50, I have a couple of years on you and Sharlene! It was no big deal, I'm sure it won't be for you either. I like the idea of a party halfway in Hawaii. I didn't really celebrate my 50th (long story), so maybe I could meet you guys there!! :D :D

Great job with the plan for Flynn, you must feel so relieved.

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper

Hi Naomi, Addy, Sharlene and Tina

Yes plans are good, I am the type that needs it all written down. Every morning at work I write out my list of what I want to achieve during the day. Last night I even emailed the vet again listing all the points we had discussed and how we are going to proceed :rolleyes: Think I am definitely a type A haha.

Tina, I think I might have read from Lori on your thread about salmon oil so think I will look at getting that for him. His bowel really seems to have settled and I think it is the Hills biscuits that have done it, he is on the gastro ones now. As much as I wanted to give him home cooked he kept on having loose poops and I think all the chicken did not help. He seems to like the new venison mince, mixed with the biscuits. I have also noted that now he is not having chicken all the time his breath is much better. Tonight was "Tripe Night" haha, it looks so gross but I am to give it to him frozen. He carries it outside to the lawn and sits there crunching it up like it is the tastiest treat. So a nice tripe iceblock is sure a hit with Flynn, especially in this warm weather :) Apparently full of all sorts of nutritious goodness :rolleyes:

Hope you get back to sleep ok Tina, I think we should all dream of Hawaii! xxxxx

This might be the first time I've heard that tripe was good for dogs. I'm glad Flynn is enjoying it, frozen in hot weather sounds doggy perfect.

I was wondering about fish oil for molly too. Maybe I'll look into that.

hugs, have a great day all,
Sharlene

It's official, we are missing an emoticon. You know the one where he starts smiling, then turns green and throws up everywhere. That's what I think of when I hear the word "Tripe" Blech! And as a frozen treat, scuse me, have to go hurl! :(:(:(:rolleyes::rolleyes: Sorry, just can't do that, my mum used to boil it up for the old Daschunds we had many years ago, just revolting! Then again, they seemed to love it. Eeeewwww!


Anyway, re the "chicken breath" My boys get that too, and the really sloppy bowels that go with it. It's basically a food allergy and they are actually allergic to chicken! I was told that apparently a lot of dogs are, and I've even tested it over the years, but every single time they get a bit of chicken, we get halitosis, what my sister calls "doona busters" (or "quilt busters" for some - basically botty halitosis) and the slops that go with it. Now, If given the choice, boys don't get chicken. And yet weirdly, turkey is fine. Go figure :confused:

I will be interested to see how Flynn goes on the fish oil. I tried some sardines a few years ago too, but couldn't get past the fish breath that went with! I'm not a fishy person at the best of times, but on a dogs breath, that's just too much! But do let us know! :D:D:D

From past readings of mine, nutritionists said tripe is supposed to be really good for dogs. I considered it for Zoe way back when I was running out of food ideas because she could not tolerate anything so hope Flynnie enjoys his tripe:D:D:D:D:D:D Have to admit though, never saw it or smelled it.

I love fish so cant go by me. Zoe's fish and sweet potato food smells good to me. Of course I cant breathe out of my nose half the time so who knows what it really smells like:D:D:rolleyes:

Green tripe! A sure hit every time in my house! Tho I don't cook it myself, we used canned. ;) I was warned about the smell but I don't find it to be offensive - it looks GROSS but the smell is ok to me and drives the gang batty begging for it! :D It is the only thing that still works with Squirt when she has to have meds apart from her feeding times. I can put the med in the tripe and she will take it. ;)

And it is very good for our babies! Not something you would want to feed on a regular basis I wouldn't think but really good for them on occasion.

http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...tink-on-tripe/

http://www.aplaceforpaws.com/faqs/pr...to-my-dog.html

I have been googling tripe and have attached a couple of articles, it appears to have lots of probiotic properties so I won't have to buy any of those, plus omega oils too. It is good for renal pups to Tina, with safe amounts of phosphorous and proteins. So sounds like a win win situation :D:D He sure seems to love it, some of the articles I read people go out to farms and get them from fresh killed animals, then cart it home and chop it up on the lawn! :D:D I will stick with my nice little frozen blocks, which are a serving size. They did warn me about the smell, but I don't notice it frozen and they said they recommended to give it like that. They said it is kind of an 'earthy' smell and is definitely an outside food. He said to give it twice a week. I just saw Flynn out of the lawn digging up the spot where he had eaten it last night, hoping he might find some leftovers no doubt :D I am getting soft on that dog, I would have told him off for digging up the lawn in the past, but not these days he can do what he likes if it makes him happy :D:D

Naomi - we used to have to eat it as kids. Mum used to make tripe and onions in a milky sauce, gawd I remember it to this day **gag**. They still have it very occasionally but boy it does stink, that emoticon would have come in handy as we pushed it around our plates, wish I had a dog back then so I could have fed him under the table :D

I like to give him fish too Addy. We have a family get together for fish n chip night each Thursday, my work has a deal with a local fish supplier and we get it cheap once a week. So we all have a lovely dinner and Flynn sits by his Grandad as he cuts up and prepares the fish and races Elle the cat to any off cuts he throws them. No pesky Siamese is going to beat him to these tasty raw fishy treats! I don't notice fish breath either!

No other news today from me, other than my boy really has turned the corner (there I said it!). :D:D :D

Hope you all have a good day tomorrow
Trish xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So glad he has turned the corner, it's a relief when that happens, you don't worry anywhere near as much, but you still watch like a hawk!

I can't believe you had to eat tripe as a kid though! **gag** is right! Mum used to stick in a pot to boil it up, and then she would make me cut it up and feed the dogs. Oh it was so gross! that and boiled laying hens. She would buy old laying chooks at the supermarket and boil them too, then as usual I would get to cut them up and feed the dogs. One time, I remember cutting into it, like I. half and found a 3/4 formed egg. needless to say, it took me about a year to eat eggs again, and about 6 months before I'd look at a chock again too! Don't remember having to feed the dogs for a while after that, I think she realized how grossed out I was! I was about 9 if memory serves. And of course, that olfactory memory is strong!

Wow, these days my boys eat better than I do! fresh cooked chuck steak or blade steak, beef roasts, lean lamb roast, roast pork even! (but I cut all the fat off, don't worry). that and fresh steamed and mashed veggies. Needless to say, they won't eat pre-prepared dog food! buy that's all because they are allergic to preservatives used in tin foods. it's pretty ugly if they get some! The one thing I have never done though is feed them from my plate, so they never beg for food. Even at his worst, Fraser would watch you eat, but never asked for it, he's such a good boy :D

anyway, time for a walk, so I'm off, enough dribble for one post :D. take care, chat soon!

Haha.. our mother's were mean, mine for making me eat it and yours for making you chop it! Have a nice walk, it is lovely in the evenings when it gets a bit cooler :D

I think congratulations are in order. :) We have a new forum host!

Congratulations Trish

hugs,
Sharlene

Oh Trish, super congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D The mean tripe mother clan!! :D:D

Hi Trish,

First off, congratulations on becoming a Forum Host!! How wonderful for you! It sounds like Flynn is feeling well, also. It's all good!

You guys are killing me with the stories about tripe. Good Lord, I'm not sure I even know what it is, but I decided I am going to wait for the weekend to take a look at the links you posted, scared, lol. It is sounding quite scary :eek: , but if it is something that might be good for Jasper, I will take a look. Anything for my little man!

Well, we got up about an hour ago for our pit stop. It is 0 degrees F, with a minus 18 wind chill, so needless to say, he was speedy. Sound asleep and snoring wrapped up in a blanket next to me on the couch now. So precious. He got his first dose of Enalapril last night, so I am watching him close. Back to bed for us for a short bit and then finally Friday!

I hope Flynn is continuing to feel well. Congratulations again Trish!

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper

Haha Naomi - that can be the title of the night shift Forum Hosts!! Thanks for the congrats Addy and Sharlene, I was very surprised to be asked.. when is our inauguration?? Do we have to swear on the doggy bible to do our best for our little buddies :D:D

Tina - I am impressed with the tripe, to be sure it is not pretty!! Flynn loves it though, I was looking at him this morning thinking something was different and it is his teeth. They are much whiter! I read that the gastric juices in the tripe can do this and he has only had three meals of it. Maybe worth a try with Jasper, it you can bear handling it, mind you I just grab a portion out the freezer put it in his bowl, he carries it outside and does the rest! Hmmm not sure how that would go in your frozen backyard!! I do not think I would like it so much if he was eating it inside :D:D I am only giving it twice a week.

Well Saturday morning is here, the doggie blankets are in the wash, vacuumed already, it is sunny again. Actually we are getting close to drought conditions, farmers are having to sell their stock BUT the wineries are very happy with all this sun, apparently it is going to be a bumper vintage this year so that's good news :D:D I am off to one of the wineries for dinner tonight so I will check out their claim :D:D

xx

Yay! new forum host. They picked the right person indeed. Thanks for all your support.

Have a happy weekend!

Oh fun going to the wineries. Love to do that. I wonder which New Zealand brands I can buy in our LCBO.

Hmmm, tripe huh. Well, molly does need something that helps her teeth, but gads, the thought of tripe, sort of does me in. It's too cold for her to have it outside. She's freeze herself silly and not come in or let it go. Do they come in small pieces. (trying to think of that on my kitchen floor) What if it isn't frozen, do you cook it for them? boil it maybe?

Hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

No I don't think you do cook it, I saw some that was freeze dried though. So maybe that would be more tolerable. I remember Mum cooking it when we were kids, it stunk. So I would not want to do that!

I have cancelled the winery dinner, they are all coming here now. Mum and Dad are out tonight and I do not want to leave Flynny home alone, even though he is good. Over protective much?!?! My friends are dog lovers so they understand :) I am going to make roasted sage pork belly, salad and veges. Just trawling my recipe books for a yummy dessert!

Our local wineries for you Sharlene :D http://www.wine-searcher.com/merchan...bay,winery,134

Thanks Trish! We do have some wines from your local vineyard. How cool is that. We have 189 different New Zealand wines and just on the first page I saw, Te Mata Estate, Te Awa Winery, Lincoln and I'm only about 10 down the list. (jumping up and down with excitement!!!) I'm going to go pick a couple up this weekend!

Thanks again!!
Sharlene

Woah! Let me check the flight schedules and get back to you Trish - Roasted Sage Pork Bellies with salad and Veg! Got room for one more? Now I'm going to have to think about something gourmet for dinner too, and I've only just woken up!

Must admit though, only ever tried a NZ wine when in Auckland. Here I am too enamoured with our Margaret River varieties on the few occasions I drink anything. (Worlds cheapest drunk here, don't drink often at all).

As for the tripe, you even got me thinking about trying to source some :eek: the choice comes down to my revulsion or white doggy teeth (seeing as how the teeth cleaning was the start of our troubles! - not that it caused anything, just the bloods indicated something amiss). Just don't know that I can handle it - we might have to stick to pigs ears treats and home made jerky. That and there is no way they will eat it outside, so I would end up with frozen tripe on my lounge room carpet. <shudder> By the way Sharlene, I will vouch for the smell/odour. IT STINKS! and my olfactory memory of that smell is almost 30 years old now. and consistency of rubber. blech! <shudders again> Nup, just can't go there.

I'm out of here, with trip on the menu again I will come back when it's gone. <shudders and walks away>

It's safe to come back Naomi, tripe's not on menu today... it's bambi! :eek: Deer are farmed around here and I have heard they are also farming Llama/alpacas :eek::eek: I think I would draw the line at that. I tried Kangaroo once when I was in Australia, not doing that again it was so tough.

My dog is eating strange things lately, but he seem's to be doing well on it, he is not so keen on his biscuits though and has taken to not eating them all in the morning but goes back later in the day to finish them off.

My friends came over tonight and brought him a can of "My Dog", we said thank you very much of course, but I thought he's not eating that!! We have turned into such dog food snobs!

Glad to hear you sourced the gel pads, looking forward to hear how they go. Apart from drinking it, Flynn hates water, he hates to swim, waves at the beach and won't go near the tide line, hates to be showered, he hates it if I get the hose out like I would squirt him, does not like a cool towel on him on a hot day, does not like rain.. lord knows what he would make of snow if he ever saw it.. he would probably think someone was throwing things at him haha so I am thinking he would hate a gel pad :D:D so good luck with yours!

xxxxx

"Dog food snob".... Not me, no way, that's not me, huh uh, nope, not a snob about dog food, nope.... soooo, I wonder why folks will no longer tell me what they are feeding? Dog food NAZI maybe? :o As in, "OMG! I wouldn't throw that out in the woods for the worms to eat! Gag a maggot, that is awful crap! Why in the world would you submit your baby to this garbage?!?" orrrr, stopping folks in the store and telling them they could do sooo much better for just a little more money, that they are feeding peanut hulls and fat, asking for serious health issues over time. ooorrrrr sharing home made dog treats with the neighbor's dogs just so I know they actually DO get some real nutrients once in a while at least...and being kind enough to tell the owner just that. :o

But, no, I am not a dog food snob.

Wine, dinner, dessert, can I come?:D:D:D:D:D:D Sounds yummy good except for the tripe. Now you have me rethinking the tripe;););)

Shoot, hubby wants me to shovel snow, yikes, he thinks I am having too much fun while he is out shoveling the driveway:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh, I love it! The Dog Food Nazi! Well Leslie, you will be pleased to know that this evening my boys ate a helping of Shoulder Roast Beef (very lean cut) and fresh cooked mashed veggies. They are snobs too, in fact, if they don't like something, they will leave it and prefer to throw up in hunger before eating whatever is in their bowls! Costs a fortune to feed these two!

Trish, I know what you mean about the My Dog too! Oscar is so horrendously allergic to that he breaks out in the most amazing skin rashes and itchies within 30 minutes of consuming! It is so chock full of preservatives it's just gross! And I myself have never tried Kangaroo. i feed it to the boys because it is so low in fat, they love it but boy howdy does it stink to high heaven! It is a pet version they get so is usually minced tail, I cook it in the microwave for a few minutes and it just reeks! But as I said, they love it, so they get it at least once a week. :rolleyes: I've never tried them on bambi, but I've tried goat which they love and have been trying to source Thumper, but at $30kg, it's just a little ridiculous. Oh well, guess we'll stick with the beef, lamb, turkey, pork and roo. (The don't tolerate chicken either :rolleyes:)

I have to say though, thank heavens Tripe is off the menu tonight. :D

(Quick Addy, duck and hide! Pretend your asleep - anything to get out of snow shovelling duty!)

:D:D:D:D That is so funny!! It's true isn't it. We become very picky about food and treats now that we Know more about them. Food snobs, LOL

I was walking molly the other day and someone wanted to run into their house and get a treat, I was like oh, thanks that is very sweet, but she has had an upset tummy so maybe not right now.
Another one I had her go over what was in her treats before she could give her treats to molly. Her dog has allergies and all kind of things going on so his stuff is pretty good.
I am loving Molly's new treats that I was thrilled to find! cranberry, chia, cinnamon, they smell so good I would eat them. No corn, no wheat, no sugar, no preservatives and made here local. Love it! Wish I could find an alternate to the S/O dog food, but it's the only one that encourages her to drink enough water. :(
Leslie, I'd be terrified if I saw you coming and had a cheap filler type food in my hand!!! Put that way and grab a blue buffalo or something. hahahahaahaha

Wow, I'm not sure that I've ever seen a dog that really didn't like water at all. Flynny is certainly unique.

Okay, everyone have a good weekend, try not to terrorize any neighbors!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Oh no Addy, once they get that shovel in your hands, your doomed!!! Doomed I say!!!! Don't go there!!! we we still have another couple months to get through...brrrrr..shiver!

Sharlene <cracking up laughing>

:D :D Look at all the dog food snobs on the forum!! I am lucky I have been able to source this food, it is preservative and additive free and he really likes the venison and tripe so far. The vet had also recommended rabbit, but the store said it was not a good seller so they stopped making it. He suggested I find someone with a gun to go out and shoot me some and then I could make my own :eek::eek::eek: I don't think so buddy!! :eek::eek::eek:

They had possum too Naomi, that always horrifies my Australian friends that us Kiwi's have such disregard for them, but they are a terrible pest here wreaking havoc in our natural bush, so now I see they have ended up in the pet food too :eek::eek: I might get some for Flynn to try next time!

Aww you were all welcome for dinner, the pork belly was delish but I don't think nibbling on the leftover crackling for breakfast meets the requirements of my new healthy eating plan :D:D Hope you got out of the shovelling Addy, that does not sound fun at all!

xxxx

Trish,

Possum is great for dogs. With the exception of Flynn's chicken wings and necks we source our food through Pet Essentials here in Tauranga. Flynn loves the possum and "something" (I can't remember what it is) mince and he thinks the rabbit is delicious. Tripe is also there but both Sabre and Flynn turned their noses up at that .... "Mum we draw the line there!". Vension was high up on the menu when he was a pup and Sabre was around but I guess he overdosed on that and is not so partial to his diced venison or venison bones as he used to be.

Angela and Flynn

Hi Angela

I get my Flynn's (great name!) venison and tripe from Pet Essentials here in Napier, I just read their website and it seems it is made centrally but some stores do their own. Wonder if that is why there is no rabbit in mine?? Good to hear of your pup eating the same food and doing good. Anyway, I'm going to go in this arvo and get him some possum, hopefully some variety will stop him going off a particular one, might get him a bone too. He has not had one of those in ages.

Angela, do you give your Flynn any other dietary supplements? My Flynn is also having about 1/2 cup of Hills gastro biscuits. I was reading about the tripe and it has probiotics and omega oils in it so I guess that is covered, but was wondering if he would need other vitamins? Keeping in mind history of high lfts, proteinuria??

Any advice gratefully received, but so far I am very impressed in the changes with my Flynn on the Pet Essential food, more formed poop although I guess that could be the biscuits but he has been on it a couple of weeks now and no loose poops at all. YAY!

Thanks
Trish

PS I am coming up to Tauranga on Friday for a meeting, hope the weather stays nice!

Sabre! A doggy with discerning taste! Good boy, reject that tripe! :D

So I'm really curious about this food that you two are getting, (and I have no objections to possum either, I know they are a pest over there, quite frankly I think they are a pest down south here too! And they stink when they get in the roof space!) Anyway, the food. Is it a raw food or something you cook up? I'm always on the lookout for something preprepared to use as a back up on the occasions when I need something quick. So come on, details please.

Also, wondering if you guys have tried the kiwi peak dry food? The boys love the treats that they do, but I've never tried the biscuits. They are so expensive here and I'm afraid they will turn their noses up and I will be left with a whole bag! They hate the canidae dry, and the only bikkies I can ever get them to eat consistently is Advance - which aren't that wonderful :rolleyes: In the past we've tried Holistic (no go with that), Eukanuba (as puppies, Fraser starved himself in preference to eating that) Pro Plan (ok for a while but then they turned noses up) Hills (would touch it, ended up returning 3 bags at different times) Natural Balance (which they do like - this is a locally made one) Nutro (Fraser will eat it if there's nothing else, Oscar won't touch it) and Advance - which they both eat consistently. So they are not kibble dogs for primary food source, that was just too hard, but I'm ever hopeful to find something else they will like.