Zoe By My Side- Our Journey with Cushings

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IMO, if you think the Lysodren will bother Zoe's colitis then I would treat her with a low dose of Trilostane.

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anything new bothers her; 1 tablespoon of new food will give her diarrhea, her heartworm medicine gives her bad poops, rimadyl knocked her down and she could not even walk after one dose. I always have to give something new just a little, allow time to adjust, repeat until we get to where we need to be. do you think i am being too paranoid? She gets diahrrea from crab apples, bunny poops or walking just a litttle on pesticide grass. Dang, she is this delicate little dog with these huge eyes, her feet freeze in the snow after two minutes she can't walk, she reverse sneezes if she gets excited, am I being too overprotective?

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With my boy Harley, he has kidney disease now...I am sure this is because I waited too long to treat him appropriately

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This worries me as well, I don't want to wait too long fo Zoe

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seem to recall that Zoe is stressed out at the vet's office but the pre cortisol draw number of 4.7 ug/dl done back in May is well within the normal basal range, which would not be indicative of a dog that is highly stressed out. However, if you are worried that Zoe's stress levels could skew the test, why not ask the vet if you can stay with her during the entire process.

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she tried to bit everyone, including me, IMS said she was beyond her stress limit and did not do complete full physical exam because of her behavior, she went outside and had horrible watery squirty poop and when we got home she threw up. She never throws up.

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Once on the lysodren it got bad and fast.

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This is what concerns me, if Zoe has a bad reaction to Lysodren and I read that 30% of them do what are the long term affects? I guess we cannot say for sure.

Thank you all for your "two cents" I value your opinions and ideas.
Dr. Oliver did not say she could not have Trilostane. I told him of Zoe's chronic problems and how we might have to resort to Tylan for 3 months. He said he would "prefer" to see her on maintenance does of Lysodren along with melatonin and lignans because all her numbers are high.

Which is why I want her retested. I want to see if they are still so high. I need to know that answer. It is paramount to me.

If the Trilostane elevates her intermediate hormones would they go down after withdrawing the Trilostane or do they stay elevated unless I give her Lysodren?

Leslie, thank you also for your post. I always appreciate your slant on things:)

Hugs to all, my bronchitis is really bad, looks like I'm going on Prednisone:eek:

Still need to load pixes of Zoes sweater:)

Love you all bunches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Addy

Hi Addy,

Corky's intermediates are elevated, and after he had the 2nd adrenal panel done, some of them increased slighlty. That was after he was taking the Trilo for many months. They have not caused any problems for Corky. I make sure that he has a full chem panel done everytime he has a stim test. His blood work has always been good, with a few things slightly elevated.

Corky's IMS felt that Trilo would be much easier on Corky than the Lyso.

I know there are so many decisions to make, and you need to do what you believe is best for Zoe.

(((HUGS)))

Dear Friends,

I think I need to regroup. The news now of little Lacey is too hard to bear.

Sonja- I hope when I can come back to the forum in a while, Apollo will be doing well.

Terri- I hope our Corkster continues to improve.

Leslie- Praying for little Trinket and Squirt

Kim- Hoping Annie continues to have a good day

Lori- Give Harley lots of belly rubs for me.

Glynda- I want to see Lulu in her new sweater

And to all the rest of you God speed.

I will be back in a bit. I need to reflect, gather my strength and get Zoe straight.

I won't be gone long, just a mini break.

Happy Holidays to my dearest friends,

With love and devotion,
Addy

Addy,

Don't you go away for long. :( I know how heart-breaking it has been for our family lately and how tough Lacey's passing is to face. But don't let these loses push you over the edge, honey. Take time to grieve, to talk with your friends and family, to be with Zoe just for the companionship and joy of her company....but remember that we love you and Zoe and want you back with us as soon as you can.

Please take care of you and come back to us. We will miss you til then.

Many hugs,
Leslie and the girls - always

Dear Addy
I have been thinking about you. I can't stop crying either. Every Time I go on the forum we have new members and loose beloved fur balls at the same time.
I wish I could give you a hug. I think all we would do would be crying in each other's arms. My dear friend.
Had a hard week my self. Posted on my thread.
Apollo stopped Trilostane on Dec 4th. Was told by holistic vet to give it a few weeks. Worried stomach problems may start again and other symptoms.
If it eases your fear, Apollo has always had stomach problems and the Trilostane has seemed to ease it some and he has been doing good on it other then the hind leg, muscle wasting in the back. This is a wicked disease.

I don't give Apollo heartworm medication nor flea control only natural one now, no rabie shot either.
You are in my prayers sweet friend, get on that horse and throw a way the worries even if it is for a short time. My friends , family are worried about me. Have even said I need a little bit of fun to ease some of the stress.
Love always Sonja and Apollo.

Hi All,

Finally I have stopped coughing and off the prednisone, yes!!!!

Zoe's new lignans came today. I had a conversation with someone about the HMR lignans and found out they also have filler in the capsules. All capsules do. He said if I gave half capsul each day, one day Zoe would get 20 mgs, next day 10mg, I would never know really how much by dividing the capsule because of the filler so I ordered powder SDG lignans from Heartland. We will attempt once again tomorrow to cut back the metronidazole and then start the new lignans. My theroy is the filler in the capsules might be agrevating her colon along with the extra fiber from the lignans. We shall see:) Her spirits are good but she continues to look very thin.

As soon as the holidays are over we go for recheck and hope to start maintenance dose of lysodren. I feel calm about it.

We decided to do something different this year and have decorated our tree with beautiful bird ornaments. We call it "Zoe's Tree". Hubby has bought every bird ornament in Milwaukee:D

Our present to each other is a shopping trip for the rescue group we adopted Zoe and Koko through. They have a wish list on Target.com and we plan on buying ALOT for them:D

I can't think of a better present for us:)

Happy Holidays everyone,

Addy, Zoe and Koko

Hi Addy,

Although I don't post much I have been following you and Zoe and just wanted to mention that I do remember one member here who was giving compounded Trilo that had an additive / filler / dye that their pup was allergic to. :( the pharmacy removed the dye and all went well after that.

Regarding the shopping trip for your local rescue...I'm sending you big smiles for helping to make a magical Christmas come true. :D:D:D

Glad to here you are doing better.
What a wonderful christmas present.
Give a big hug to Zoe and you.
Sonja and Apollo

Hi John,

I follow your thread too :) I love to watch the swim sessions:D

When I measured out the 2 capsules of Vita Cost it came to about 1/2 teaspoon of filler and lignans. With the new powder, Zoe will only take 1/8 teaspoon. I am hoping it will make a difference. She does not do well with fiber.

The founder of Zoe and Koko's rescue group has MS. She is pretty remarkable. I don't know how she gets it all done really. I admire her greatly. I love giving presents. It is the greatest gift for me, to be able to give. I can't wait to shop!!!!:D:D:D I owe my pups to them.

It has been too cold to walk, the pup's paws freeze. I spent all last week carrying Zoe in and out. We are doing laps down the hallway every morning. They seem to love it.

My favorite thing is to lay on the floor with the pups and cuddle, staring at Zoe's Tree. We added a squirrel, a fox, a rabbit and a bird's nest. I love Zoe's Tree.

Hugs, Addy

Aw, Addy,

When I read your post about Zoe's tree and hubby buying bird ornaments, then about the gifts you are going to give each other, well, the tears started to flow. I just fell head over heals in love with you and your hubby.

Sending huge hugs to you and Hubby, belly rubs to Zoe and Koko.

Leslie and the girls - always

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Happy New Year!!!!

The emotions are sooo up and down with our furry ones. You go nuts trying to think did they do this before or just a week ago.

Maddie's at the vet as I type this for a stem test and the vet's taking a look at her left hind leg for problems--I wrote more about it on her thread.

I need to try to work---sure my head is not in it, but the pressure is on from my manager--no vacation till you hit your numbers--at this point not sure that will happen--so burned out on sooo many levels--haha!!! We are suppose to be positive and soar like an eagle and not quack like a duck complaining. Be positive and not stress because it will make you sick---soooo let's soar like the eagle above it all!!!!:)

(((Many hugs to you and Zoe!!!!)))

Hi Addy,

I'm so glad that you were able to make a decision that you are comfortable with. I hope everything goes well.

I love the idea of Zoe's tree. I think that is such a wonderful idea. God bless you and your husband for thinking of the furbabies in the shelter. Your thoughtfulness shows the true meaning of Christmas.

I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas.

Give Zoe some belly rubs from me.

(((HUGS)))

Luv ya,

Terri and Corkster

Thanks guys.

After a discussion with Dr. Oliver at UTK with Zoe having to be on extended tylon or flagyl, we decided maintenance dose is best right now. Dr. Oliver thinks it is best to try this and we will give it a go.

I just want her to feel better. Funny, but I am not scared or worried but actually quite calm. Perahps because I have Dr. Oliver's support has made me feel better. Acutally, he suggested it for her.

Leslie is right. I have to trust someone.

Leslie, the adoration is mutual:D

I feel sooooooo much better;)

Addy

Oh Addy, I am so glad you are calm--it is such a nice feeling when you get comfortable and you see signs of Zoe feeling better--back to things they did or some of the symptoms going away.

You are such a generous and giving person and bless you for that!!! Good things will come your way--pay it forward as they say...:):)

Dear Addy
Just a check in. Hope you and Zoe are doing okay.
Hugs Sonja and Apollo

We are fine thanks. We have managed to cut back to half of our evening dose of metronidazole. We had to stop half of our old lignans to ge there. If all is well today, we will start new lignans tomorrow.

Zoe has lost weight, she seems to urinate longer and is more urgent to go out. I pray it is not diabetes. We go for recheck January 10th.
I did not want to send out tests during the holidays. Since cutting back on the metronidazole alittle she is more spunky. I hope to see more improvement when we go to one pill a day and restart full lignans.

I think there is something else going on with Zoe besides Cushings. We will find out soon enough, don't want to dwell on it now.

I have found acceptance of it all. Now we move forward to help her the best way we can. She still jumps on my chest every morning and tries to stick her tongue in my mouth every time I yawn. Her personality is still there. I am grateful for that.

Love you all,
Addy

You have a wonderful outlook on things. We get very upset with anything different that happens. Take it easy and wait until you get the lab results.

The weight loss could be due to a number of things. In the stressful two weeks that Corky had, he lost 1.1 pounds. With the more frequent urinating, it is possible that Zoe could have a UTI that wasn't detected.

Wait until you get the results of the tests. Then, as you said, you can move forward and help Zoe in the best way you can.

(((HUGS)))

Luv ya my dear friend,

Terri, and of course our Corkster.

Addy, I'm still thinking that the problems you are seeing may just be related to increasingly elevated cortisol as opposed to other new problems developing. My Cushpup was contrary to the norm and instead of gaining weight, he lost weight prior to treatment. So I can tell you that it does happen. I'm guessing that, on one hand, you're hoping that the retesting won't show that Zoe's cortisol is truly elevated. But on the other hand, that could explain a lot of her problems. And if that's the case, you may have an answer of sorts and the Lysodren will really help her. That's surely what I will be hoping!

Lots of holiday hugs being beamed your way,
Marianne

Hi Marianne,

You are probably right about the cortisol. I guess I would hope retest would should blood work and all of that ok and perhaps decrease in her intermediates a little. I was hoping cortisol may be down a tad but now with the increasing symptoms, I would expect not. Dr. Oliver said her numbers were very high and that he did not expect the lignans and melatonin to bring anything down much. She needs the lysodren. If anything, if her retest shows everything ok but high UTK panel, I'll jump for joy as crazy as that sounds:eek:

Never thought I would be happy that it was only Cushings:rolleyes::rolleyes:

When she stops trying to stick her tongue in my mouth, I will be really worried:eek::eek::D;)

Ho, Ho, Ho,

Addy, Zoe and Koko

Dear Addy
At least you have a sense of humor. We need to keep being hopeful.
Sonja and Apollo

I'm manic for sure.

Not sure how hubby can tolerate me. I am either bawling or cracking jokes. Odd what this Cushings stress does to a person.:rolleyes:

No middle ground for Addy!!!!!:eek::rolleyes::o

Every morning before we get out of bed I tell Zoe "Good morning, it is a beautiful day. You are still here. You are my most beautiful dog and Mommy loves her little girl very much." And then I try to blank my mind out.

Yesterday she had really bad poops. This morning she is better. I am going to run a stool sample in to the local vet. Just as a double check. This flare up is so different than the others. I want to do a gardia check too. Don't they check 3 different stools for that?

Could of been stress. Our schedule is all over the place and Sunday we thought we locked them in the kitchen but never closed the door or left a light on. We thought we'd be gone an hour and were gone much longer.

The two of them were stressed out when we got back, looking out the door for us in the dark. Koko kept doing calming signals. Thank goodness Koko did not get into the tree or anything else!!!!

He was a good big boy.:D:D We were were lucky he did not chew up anything!!!!

Merry Christmas!!! Happy Holidays!!!!

Love you all,

Addy, Zoe and Koko

Just a quick one...

I cannot tell you not to stress. I know the tears and jokes and especially blanking out the mind. I seem to blank more than anything and don't hear everything, but then that might just be the ears and age.:D

Take care we are hanging in there, but sad.

Merry Christmas!!!

This is absolutely driving me nuts. Monday we had squirty water poops, put back on 2 full doses metronidazole and figured well, might as well start new lignans if we are increasing metronidazole. Next day small hard pellets like she used to have. Cut back evening metronidazole dose again by 1/4 and held my breath. Yesterday small firm pellets, she wanted to take a walk and her spirits were really good and she was not lethargic.Continued new lignans and smaller metronidazole dose in the evening.

This morning again, small firm pellets and she is alert and happy.

Called local vet. They only can do a fecal float to check for worms or parasites. They cannot to fecal smear or check for bacteria or giardia. I would have to send out for that. With the holidays, I worry I would not get good test results so will wait to see what IMS says about stool sample I guess.

When I thought it was the lignans the first time and stopped them her poops were like this but then when I tried to stop the evening dose of metronidazole, we had watery, squirty poops. So we went back on full doses of metronidazole and old lignans and had big, really soft mushy, stool. So then I cut back old lignans by half and I got alittle firmer stool but still very soft.

Now we are on new lignans and I have small firm pellets like I should have. Seems like it was the filler in the lignans, doesn't it?

Well, nothing ever lasts with Zoe so will wait to see what tpmorrow will bring but it would sure be a nice Christmas present to have bad poops under control:rolleyes:

I just don't get it:eek::eek::eek:

Almost time for Santa!!!!!!!

Love ya all,

Addy, Zoe and Koko

Addy my friend, don't fret too much. Take it one day at a time. Hopefully, you will be able to get the right combination of meds that will let Zoe's poops be normal and under control.

(((HUGS)))

Luv ya,

Terri and Corkster.

I know Terri, I am afraid I am obsessed with poo:eek::eek:

I just have a hard time when things are not logical.:o

I had gotten better with it but I think I need to go to "poo obsession annonymous":eek::eek::eek:

Merry Christmas,
Addy

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I had gotten better with it but I think I need to go to "poo obsession annonymous":eek::eek::eek:
Addy

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Dear Addy

Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, and hope the "poopy" is how it should be:D

Love
Denise & twiglets
(Bonnie is still my lil twiglet)

Thank you Denise. I hope your Christmas was merry and that your New Year will be happy and bright.

One week on new lignans and all is well. Will try again to stop evening metronidazole dose Thursday night. I did give her extra dose Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. IMS said give extra durring stressful holidays or changes in routine. Seemed to work because she even had a bully stick and extra food and had no problems.

Crossing my fingers for Thursday night. She is down to 17.5 pounds. She was 18 pounds at Thanksgiving.:( I think it is muscle wasting.

See IMS January 6th. Saying a prayer for my little girl that something else has not surfaced besides Cushings.

Hugs,
Addy

Dear Addy
Sorry off line for awhile. I get so overwhelmed by it all that sometimes I need a break. As far as the weight loss is concerned, Apollo had lost about a half pound also, don't know if stress of what we are going through or just out of his normal feeding routine. I watch every pop he does looking for color, if any blood, if firm or loss. Think we could write a book " A day in the life of cushing pop"
Apollo has been off the Trilostane since Dec 4th. Other then the weakness in his hind legs he is in good spirits, appetite. I am watching for signs of cushing's symptoms. So far not bad. So what do I do start on the Trilostane again. Harry's mom is having a hard time with Harry. He is having weakness in all four legs. They are in Lake Tahoe close to where our business is and had to go to a local vet. Told to get off Trilostane asap. So I am more worried as to what to do. Know Apollo needs medication but do I watch him even more on the Trilostane?
Have a great New Years. I may be off line until the first, end of month, quarter, year end reports, payroll, etc. to do.
Hugs my dear friend Sonja and Apollo, and Karma

Addy,
I know how it all drives you completely crazy trying to figure out what to do. I thought I was going to lose my mind. Now, with Lacey gone, there is nothing to do and I am losing my mind even more. It is just phenomenal to me how these babies are a part of every single molecule of our beings. I know just how stressed you are and how difficult it is to even think. They completely trust us and we are so in charge of every decision...the responsibility is overwhelming!! I really, really hope Zoe will "level out" in a healthy zone and both of you can relax and just enjoy each other for a long respite.

Oh thank you Marlene. It is so good to hear from you. It brough a huge smile to my face.:D I hope Zoe levels off too. Yesterday she wanted to go for a walk which was good news. She is much better on a lower dose of metronidazole. She does not feel good on a full daily dose. I don't want to switch to tylan now because I don't want to have to then wait again to start her maintenance dose of lysodren.

Hi dear Sonja,

Relieved to hear from you as I was worried about the mud slides and storms I kept seeing on the news.:eek: I think Harry has elevated intermediates doesn't he? I thought he was first diagnosed as atypical. I always wonder about the leg weakness, if there is a connection. Simon had elevated intermediates and had leg weakness too. Just a puzzle for me. If you are not seeing any symptoms returning, maybe wait a bit? Apollo's cortisol came down pretty quickly first time around.

Happy New Year dearest friends.

Addy, Zoe and Koko

Hi Addy,

Thank you for all your kind words and of course all the (((((HUGS)))) and kisses for the Maddie Girl. It is so weird how each day is different---she seems all there and the next just lays there. She is still eating and of course the POOP Patrol has good results today.

I am glad Zoe is doing good on her new dose. You are still calm with whatever you decide to do for Zoe--right??? Good luck at the IMS on the 6th. You always do the right thing for Zoe.

Hugs to you both!!! Thanks again for being there and Keep warm--haha!!! We have to keep dry out here--no flooding where I live just have better lake front property--haha, but the birds come back and next so it is beautiful in the wetlands by the beach.:D

Hi Addy,

Can you share with me what happens when Zoe has a flare up? What is the progress of her poop consistancy? Is it bloody and watery? I am very worried about Trinket. :( She is sick again and I don't think this is a virus. I am getting concerned this is something chronic. So if you wouldn't mind sharing your experience with Zoe and how you came to know what her problem is, I would so appreciate it!

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls - one who is sick again:(

PS. Does Zoe have bright red bloody discharge ever?

Leslie, I am so sorry to hear about Trinket. Zoe never had blood in her stool that I noticed because according to her vet, I intervened before it got to that point. I don't know if that is true but I admit to conducting strict poop patrol and freaking out even when her stool got a little mushy. She had been so sick the first go around that I never wanted to get to that point again.

I might have a sight bookmarked at work that explains the different stools to suggest where the problem may be, example, large or small intestine or colon. I'll look when I get to work today.

I know when we are going to a flare up because her stool starts first getting soft, the first poop of the day may be normal and then progresses to soft with a mushy tail on it. We then go to soft to mush ,l ike soft serve ice cream with no form. Then we go to watery squirty poops she cannot control and she will go three or four times like that in a morning, even in the house if I am not watching. She can't control it.

How are you giving the metronidazole? Is she getting it twice a day and is still sick? If you have stopped the metronidazole, she may need to go back on it. Or she may need to switch to tylan. Some dogs take both. She may also need panacur. It is so hard to know. we found the best way to use metronidazole is to wean off it. Twice a day until firm stools for 3-5 days, then lower one of the doses for another 3-4 days , then omit one dose for 3-5 days, then 1 dose every other day for a week, then every two days, etc. Trinket may need to stay on a full dose longer, which we had to do this go around. Is she losing weight? This last flare for Zoe was different then previuos flares of the last 2 years. I could not get in under control as quickly and she lost weight. She never used to lose weight. It could mean her disease is progressing. Her IMS says the fact the she responds to metronodazole means she is producing too much bacteria and the question is why?

If Trinket is still sick and still on the metronidazole then we have a different problem, though Zoe did get sick for one day on her full dose. I cut back her food and omitted lignans and she was better the next day. Letting her system rest by cutting back one meal in half always helped her. I don't know if you can do that with Trinket, she is so tiny.

If I missed something I'll post again at lunch time. Also, metronidazole can cause diarrhea. Are you giving a supplement that could be bothering her? Once they get sick, everything bothers them, especially anything new.

I will admit the Science diet perscription ID helped stop the really bad poops the very first time. We just had to supplement it with white rice and pumpkin and had 4-5 muscus poops a day but the watery squirty stuff stopped and she gained weight. I have a whole case of it that is not expired if you want to try some I will send it to you.

Love ya,
Addy

Thanks, Addy! That was helpful! Trink has been on a med called Amforol, not the metronidazole. I have some that was Crys' but it is 500mg - much more than Trink would need and not easily divided into the dose she needs. Dr B may go that route this time.

Trink loses weight while the diarrhea is bad but then gains it right back once it stops.

Trink isn't on any supplements at the moment. There were some in her menu but she hasn't eaten that in 2 weeks now - she has been on brown rice and beef in beef broth only for two weeks. After talking with Cat this morning, we are going to put her on a whitefish and sweet potato diet with slippery elm and see how she does with that. In essence, we are going to start eliminating possible food causes. yippee...

I look forward to seeing the info you have on poops and small VS large intestine issues. ;) Ain't life fun!

Have a good day and thanks so much!

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls - always

That sounds really good. I wanted to try Slippery Elm for Zoe last year. I have read good things about Slippery Elm and wish I could try your new diet for Zoe. I can only add one new thing at a time so if we are to start maintnenace dose, can't change food. Who is Cat, if I may ask?

Which started me down this whole road about compounded drugs and if the filler in the capsules of mitotane will bother Zoe or will the oil if I get suspended? I really don't want to start Zoe at more than 25mgs per kg. At which point I decided to email Dr. Allen at Dechra.:confused: I sent him Zoe's adrenal panel. He advised that 80% of dogs with similar adrenal panels are successfully treated with Trilostane, meaning their Cushing's symtpoms resolved and the increased "building block" hormones did not matter.

I will discuss all this info I have gathered with Zoe's doctor next week and after we get all her new tests in. Hubby is worried IMS may be miffed about my research gathering:eek::mad::rolleyes:

I planned to do new serum blood work, blood chemistry panel, urinalysis, repeat the C PL1 and redo adrenal panel with UTK. Ask about stool sample (plan to bring one just in case)

What else do I need done?

Leslie- still looking for the info on poops will send later.

Marie- I am glad Maddie has good days and hope you do as well. I admire you so. And I will always be there for you.:)

Hugs,
Addy

Dear Addy
just checking in to see how you and Zoe are doing.
Hugs Sonja and Apollo

Hi Sonja,

Thanks for checking on us. We are on day two with no evening dose of metronidazole with no watery squirty poops yet. Of course I am holding my breath, just waiting for them to start:mad:

We see IMS on Thursday and I am stressing trying to figure out how I am going to fast Zoe for that long. She does not do well with fasting. Our appointment is at 9:30 in the morning and they said no food after 9:00pm.:eek:

Her legs are getting weaker, she won't even jump on the sofa now. The rapid onset of this hind leg weakness is really bothering me.

I did not yet take down Zoe's Tree. I want to look at it alittle while longer.

Love ya,
Addy

Any thoughts?

I was trying to figure out what stopped the flare last July. Well, lets see, there were eight hamburger buns. Hmmm, don't think we should try that again:eek:

Then there was the starting melatonin. Hmmmmm, lets see, she is on 3mgs twice a day. Seems to me Jane said Dr. Oliver was okay with increasing. Let us add 1mg just in the pm.:rolleyes:

It has been three nights with no evening dose of metronidazole. I added 1 more mg melatonin at night instead. We have not had squirty poops and each day our poops have gotten firmer:confused:

Okay, the IMS thought I was nuts last July when I told her what happened. Don't think I'll mention it Thursday:o

Of course, I have learned not to count my chickens with Zoe. They fly the coop!!!!!! Will see what tomorrow brings.

Shaking my head in Milwaukee,
Addy

Lost my reply in cyber space.
We are always glad when we see a good pop. Don't listen to what other people say.:mad:

I have the same problem with the hind leg weakness. Apollo's legs seem to want to give out on him. Wish I could help.
Will post on my thread.
Hang in there.
Sonja and Apollo

Just returned from IMS, Zoe was 16.5 pounds. On October 8th, same scale, she was 18 pounds. Weight then was taken in afternoon non fasting. Shows larger weight loss than my scale at home. I increased her food end of October, still have weight loss. Never lost weight beofre with colitis flare up.

PANIC:eek:

Redid UTK panel, results won't be in for 2 weeks. Redid all blood work, urine test and some Ep1 something test at Texas U. Does not think it is pancreatitis.

Gave me panacur only because I brought up about could it be parasites. Got the impression she only gave it to me to ease my mind and she did not think it was needed.

She does not want to do Trilostane. Is willing to do maintenance dose of Lysodren but her experience is won't be enough to bring numbers down. She really wants to load, I think. Asked her if she ever treated dog with lysodren that had chronic diahrrea. Did not get definite answer. Told her I was worried about gastric upset. She is not worried about it.

Said wait until we get all test results back and see where we are.

Still cannot change food.

Am freaking out about the weight loss being worse than I thought.:(

Trying not to cry and be brave.

May have to repeat ultra sound.

Addy